Why are soldiers treated with so much respect?

I expect those people attacking are soldiers.

So you are saying I need soldiers to protect me from other soldiers?

Flat out fucking false. If I don't support the soldiers by giving in to their demands for ransom, they WILL come to me, and take payment. Maybe burn my crops, and rape and kill my family while they are at it, in case you aren't familiar with any military campaign ever.

 

Who pays their salary? Who pays for their billion dollar jets? Who pays for the hundreds of military bases? Who pays for their healthcare, college, welfare of their children? Who pays their guns and rounds to train with?

If they don't do it for the money, why is it that they will kill me if I don't give them the money they demand?

 

Lol no American soldier will ever kill you if you don't pay them money. Considering all of their money they get is completely tied in to taxes, you don't give them anything. You give the government money who, in turn, give the soldiers money. Second, no fucking jet costs a billion dollars, you just sound ignorant. And please tell me how soldiers choose to be in the military for money. Even though many of their things get paid for, they could be doing other things with their life making more money. They do it because they care. Maybe you're referencing soldiers in Africa or some shit like that, but soldiers in America are kind, respectable people that put their life at risk for the sake of protecting their family and everyone else's families.

 

What happens if I decide not to give the government money?

 

Then the IRS comes after you and you get sued. It's called taxes. The government does shit for you and you pay taxes. It's how a country works. Please name any successful country or empire that did not have taxes.

 

Why should people who use violence to build empires deserve respect? That is evil.

 

Why do you keep answering questions with questions? Is it because you refuse to even accept the idea that some soldiers are there so help? You have a view that soldiers are inherently evil. What if your grandfather served in World War 2? Would he have been a greedy, evil bastard that you pertain all soldiers to be?

 

I'm not answering questions with questions, I'm asking you and other people to PROVE your claims. You haven't asked a question in multiple posts.

You said soldiers were volunteers. They aren't. They consume $700 billion a year in the USA alone, taken out of the pockets of others (regardless of whether or not they support war).

 

Yes but they don't have to. They volunteer their time in order to serve. Sure they get paid, but they deserve to get paid. You haven't proved anything to support how these people are tyrants or monsters, so please don't say shit.

 

Serve who? If they deserved to be paid, they wouldn't have to resort to taking money by force to fund their killings & bombings.

 

This kid is just going to keep blatantly overlooking the facts that negate the sheer hate speech being spewed. Living proof you really cant win an argument against stupid.

A soldier has never and will never take your money by force. Your retarded argument of it happening via the government is totally moot unless you're special and get to pick where your tax money goes to. And just saying, if you didn't pay your taxes, you'd be arrested. And unless you live on base, the military isn't going to be the one putting you in cuffs. So please, say again how soldiers are mean to you and take your lunch money. You honestly sound like the guy who couldn't hack it and is now just mad at the world....

Your misplaced anger should be directed at the government, not the soldier. But I get the feeling you already know that. What you're doing is nothing more than shooting the messenger, and its morally wrong. Which is really kind of funny, you being on that high horse and all.

 

The Greek, Persian, Roman, Mongol, Hun, Ottoman, British, American military empires never took anyone's money by force? Warfare is about taking things by force. Oil. Land. Slaves.

Soldiers are agents of the government. They are the ones filling bodies with bullets, they are directly responsible just as the politicians are.

I don't get to choose where my tax money goes. Each year, $2,000 of my dollars are stolen from me in taxes to fund murderous wars that I oppose. Soldiers are welfare queens who don't deserve respect.

 

Our nation was built through many horrible conflicts. The entire human race has been murdering each other for centuries. After over 200,000 years of evolution and adaptation of civilization, we have grown up under the protection of our nations. You are fortunate to have the ability to enjoy the tremendous amount of luxuries in life, including the computer you are using to make these disrespectful remarks.

Every nation requires protection to survive the onslaught of aggression that humanity has been plagued with for all of these generations. Without our military, our country would crumble. Our families could be murdered in cold blood. You would have no privileges. Hell, you might not even be able to survive a year. You are saying that the people who are willing to throw away their lives for this freedom and your protection do not deserve an ounce of respect? Are they welfare queens? If they did not enlist in the military, you would not have a life. Even if they spend their lives without entering a single war, their placement will help you and many others survive in a cruel world.

They are spending every day of their life working under strict control by their officers, so our nation's children can grow in a safe environment and develop the world. Are they fighting every single day in combat? Of course not. The fact that they have a presence and are trained in case of an emergency gives us that protection in our modern society. That is where many people misjudge them. They think that because they are not actively fighting, they do not deserve respect. If we were being invaded and they were not trained, we would be crushed. If we didn't have them, Russia would have burned us down by now. You think this is a joke? This is not a game. This is real life and humans, as you have already mentioned multiple examples, have been fighting for a very long time. Don't be fooled by the peace you are given. That took many years to achieve. Around 71 years ago, people were still being experimented on. They were being cut into different pieces. Gas with various chemicals to determine results. Tormented by Nazis and starved to death in over-populated concentration camps. My grandfather is 78 years old. To think that MY grandfather could have been burned alive if he grew up in Germany under a particular religion.

Do you think they do it for the money? You are dead wrong. In our current state, the world believes fast-food workers deserve to be paid more than most military personnel. They make lower wages than the guy serving you McDoubles to stuff down your throat.

You make an argument that they are the agents of the government. We live in a republic nation with a democratic framework. Our country's citizens are given the right to choose the officials we place in our state. Those same people are the ones that determine these soldier's fate. We, the people, are the reason those troops are pushed into wars. They are fighting for our PROTECTION, our BELIEFS, and our FREEDOM. They take orders from the people we elect into office.

You are angry because we are shoved into wars with nations over oil? Yeah, I bet you think that innocent people died. Our soldiers might have pulled the trigger, but you are the one making their decisions. Their entire goal is to follow our government which is SUPPOSED to be built by our citizens.

Instead, we have a nation filled with LAZY people. The protection and freedom I was speaking about before? That sense of invulnerability that our country provides you? That invulnerability is the feeling you have when you go to bed at night and expect to wake up the next morning to brush your teeth and take a steamy shower after beating off to your favorite porn star.

You believe our soldiers deserve no respect, yet you are the type of person that sits your ass back and allows Donald Trump rise to power. You do not want wars over gas, but I bet you do not own a Tesla.

If you are a part of the portion who does vote and attempts rally against these wars, then shouldn't you be angry with our nation's people? These troops are fighting for the beliefs of elected officials that our population promotes. In their perspective, they are fighting for our country's decision. They are not fighting for the government. They are not fighting for their own selfish reasons. They are fighting for YOU and everyone else living in this country. If they wanted money, they would take advantage of our society and go flip burgers and spend their earnings on Xbox games to play until 3:00AM in the morning. They would not endure so many restrictions in life that the military places, for less money than our nation's average annual salary with zero possibility of increased paychecks.

There are little things that can make me upset. I've been on the internet my entire life. The one thing that makes my blood boil is reading disrespect towards soldiers.

 

You mean the PREY of nations. Democide in the last century alone claimed over 200 MILLION human lives.

Michael Dell & Bill Gates are responsible for me having a computer, not any soldier.

Aggression from who? Other nations' militaries?

Murdered by who? Other militaries?

Freedom from what?

Survive what?

Safe from what?

War is incredibly profitable for those who wield weapons and those who sell them to them.

That's called mob rule. I am a citizen, but I do not get to choose whether or not an official takes my property or drafts me into his army. I will be shot for choosing not to be stolen from, or enslaved.

Freedom from what?

I am clearly against soldiers murdering innocent people. You want to blame ME for other people committing murder?

I paid for that bed, that toothbrush, that toothpaste, that shower. The porn is free, the beating off is just a hobby.

But guess what, dumbass? SOLDIERS DIDN'T GIVE ME ANY OF THAT. I BOUGHT THAT ALL MYSELF, AND I WAS BORN WITH A PENIS.

I am against the presidency. I am against war. If I bought a Tesla, will it stop American soldiers from raping Iraqi children?

Your respect is placed in the hands of rapists and murderers. The vilest of criminals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Gun_Ri_Massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_Massacre
http://www.thenation.com/article/other-war-iraq-vets-bear-witness-0/
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/apr/05/wikileaks-us-army-iraq-attack
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haditha_killings
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/nov/16/usa.iraq1
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/07/us/07abuse.html?_r=0
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0622/p01s01-usmi.html

 

Are you not educated enough to understand the chain of development?

Michael Dell & Bill Gates have the ability to own multi-billion dollar companies that develop computers because of the security our military provide. Without protection, they would most likely be dead or wouldn't have had the time nor resources to build.

You believe that our country controls other the other nation's choice to have militaries?

Once again, do you believe the country you were born into can solve human hatred and force other nation's not to have militaries?

You are confident that we would survive without the military. You must pretend that you are in an online fantasy world that has GM's which will swoop down and stop people from murdering your family by putting them into a Pandora box.

Have you ever read or heard of a history book? It is almost as if you believe the world started the moment you were born. It is very conceded.

The wars that have tragically killed millions of people for thousands of years. You are naive to believe that without protection, we would be able to live in our nation safely.

People who develop a desired product obviously make a profit. That is how supply and demand works. Why do you believe that product is desired?

Do you know that our rank in the food chain is represented by an approximate 2.2 out of 5.5 scales? This is of course without tools. Humans act like they are the top of the food chain because they have the ability to think.
A person can learn, obtain knowledge and eventually grow wisdom. They build tools to become mimic a rating of around 5.5 (or higher if you want to break the chart with overkill potential).

Humans all around the globe have been developing more complex ways to kill other living organisms for thousands of years. There is a concept in Information Technology management that can be applied to this situation. Software has become such a huge deal in recent years, companies are no longer looking to have an advantage; they want to keep themselves from entering a technical disadvantage. They do not want to become weaker than competitors, or they will be destroyed. Our military invest in better technology to prevent our nation from being demolished. Can you not see the value in that protection?

It would be IDEAL and optimistic if everyone could throw away their military and weapons. You obviously want that. Why do you believe we do not? Do you think our troops do not want peace? It is a FACT that there are threats to us in the world. Other people in the world want us dead. Do you truly believe that we survive without weapons and military?

Without a nation with a military to live in, you will be shot for being alive.

Life of forced misery.

Yes.

By the way, here is the definition of murder:
"the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another."

Without a government, without a nation, without our militaries protection, there are no laws. You become some North Korean's sex slave until he puts a bullet in you.

You paid for that bed, that toothbrush, that toothpaste, and that shower using the paper money you earned in a booming economy fueled by the government and military you dread so much. Hypocritical.

If you were born in an African camp, you would not have the ability to work for those luxuries. Luckily, you were born in a 1st world nation that has grown with it is protection in place.

You bought it all yourself, with money you earned from a government giving you the ability to earn something.

I am glad you were born with at least one organ because I'm more interested in if you were born with a brain.

You are against having rights. You are against protection. No, but opening your eyes will take you out of that fantasy land you are imagining.

You do not understand respect nor have any respect.

 

Protection from what? Dead by what? Tell me already, stop pretending that without soldiers, people would drop dead instantly.

You didn't answer my question: Aggression from who? Provide proof for your claims.

^ You still aren't providing proof. Provide proof for your claim: Murdered by who?

You failed to provide proof again for your claim: Freedom from what? Soldiers are the top murderers of families, by hundreds of millions. Why are you pretending that soldiers are somehow PROTECTION for families, rather than their NUMBER 1 MORTAL THREAT.

Survive what? This is the fourth time I've asked you to provide proof and you hoped I wouldn't notice you haven't provided any.

Is it completely lost on you that soldiers are the ones killing people in all those wars? How do soldiers make you safe, when soldiers are the ones doing the killing?

So I need soldiers to tax me to pay for them to kill other soldiers who want to tax me? Would you inject yourself with AIDS to fight cancer?

I forgot that when the west was settled, there were no towns, no gold rush, no Oregon trail, no railroads, because every time two people came across each other in the wild west, one of them would SHOOT the other one for BEING ALIVE.


You are retarded.

Like what? Being forced to go through government "education" full time for 12 years? Being forced to sign up for the draft? Being forced to pay half my livelihood in taxes? Being forced to pay for the welfare of criminals? Being forced to buy insurance on my own life from the government? Being forced to pay for nuclear bombs dropped on civilians? Being forced to pay for the weapons sent to Al Qaeda? Being forced to pay for unconstitutional spying on every form of digital communication I send?

So you say these soldiers are giving "Freedom" and saving me from a "Life of Forced Misery"?

What? If someone tried to rape me, I would shoot them.

The science of economics does not depend on the existence of a military.

Protection from what? You keep trying to avoid proving there is something that soldiers are protecting me from.

I don't work for the government. I make my own money.

I am for rights. You want to violate my rights with armies.

 

Do you know why the KKK wears those sheets over their head? So nobody can see what moron just vilified a whole group of people based on a small percentiles actions...You use broad generalizations to vilify a whole group. You spew hate speech about something you have no first hand knowledge of. You purposely overlook any positives the group may have contributed... Are you also a big fan of prejudice and racism? Because in essence that's exactly what you're doing here.

Soldiers are agents of the government. With NO SAY in what or how anything happens. Can you tell me when the last time you were held up by this meany of a soldier was? Whats he look like? Or is it the whole platoon that takes your money from you? Are you equally as spiteful towards postal workers, emergency service workers, roadworkers, animal control, groundskeepers and public transit workers, because they also steal yours and Wesley Snipes' money, being agents of the government. You are still just shooting the messenger from your high horse.


If you really want to get technical, your gripe is with humanity, not soldiers, or even politicians. Stop targeting soldiers. You're doing the exact thing you're preaching against. You are attacking the innocent right with the guilty.

 

I have firsthand experience of being forced to sign up for the selective service. I have firsthand experience of being forced to pay over $2000 every single year for soldiers to bomb civilians and rape Iraqi children.

They have the choice whether or not to become murderers for hire.

The answer you are looking for is: -right now-. Soldiers are busy bombing civilians in a half dozen countries. The last time was -right now-. Yemen. Syria. Iraq. Afghanistan. Pakistan. Somalia. Libya.

They are guilty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Gun_Ri_Massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_Massacre
http://www.thenation.com/article/other-war-iraq-vets-bear-witness-0/
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/apr/05/wikileaks-us-army-iraq-attack
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haditha_killings
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/nov/16/usa.iraq1
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/07/us/07abuse.html?_r=0
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0622/p01s01-usmi.html

 

Before I answer all of your questions, I'll tell you a story. I am a tutor at my university, and I recently had a client that had a few disabilities. After three months of mentoring him, I realized he had zero potential for obtaining any career in our field.

He was preparing for an exam and had to understand 20 basic Windows DOS commands. One of the simplest commands to possibly know is "color." You type in the command "color" followed by two digits or letters. One of the symbols representing the background and one for the foreground (text).

Every single day, he would walk in prepared to study for two hours. I would spend the first 15 to 30 minutes going over those commands repeatedly. Interestingly enough, he was not able to understand this color command. No matter how many times he physically did it, no matter how many different ways I explained it. He just could not grasp the idea of this machine requiring a command to do something. Every day when he attempted to do it, he would put in two digits and press enter. Every time he was surprised because he was not responding to his numbers. No matter what I did, or suggested, he needed me to provide him the answer to put in "color" first, before the symbols, as the command after 15-20 minutes of attempting it himself with all of his notes.

After around a month of going over these 20 commands and another workload, he took his exam. He failed this exam. His immediate reaction was that I did not help him put the controls in his notebook properly, which they were there alongside an entire packet of the 20 commands, and he had access to the internet during the test. The very first question was the color command. I looked at that question; he had two digits written down, and it has changed me forever.

I will never take for granted the amount of stupidity in this world. Some people will NEVER understand something, no matter how much time is put into it. It is just the way your brain was built.

I do not blame you not having a fully developed brain, but I do pity you.

Protection from people. Dead by people. You have this belief that if we did not have soldiers, then we would not be invaded by other countries. There are 200,000 years of proof that you are wrong. Stop denying facts; it is just silly.

People.

Pick and choose. There have been thousands of wars in which innocent people have been forced into battle. I'll take your words and use them against you: "What? If someone tried to rape me, I would shoot them. "

Exactly. That is the position billions of people had been in over the years and did you know when that conflict slowed down? When nations began growing together and had protection in place. Your exact respond to getting raped is exactly what you are against. You are beyond hypocritical.

http://militaryhistory.about.com/od/battleswars/u/WarsandBattles.htm

Humans.
http://militaryhistory.about.com/od/battleswars/u/WarsandBattles.htm

If we did not have soldiers, you would become a solider when you are about to be raped.

"What? If someone tried to rape me, I would shoot them. "

How about instead of shooting them, we create protection system for that circumstance not to happen? Why don't we give you protection from becoming some North Korean's sex slave? Oh wait....we do...that is what the military is here for. To protect you.

Are you delusional? You did not create the post yet. Do you expect me to respond to your previous three questions to provide proof before you even make the post? You seem to have a few screws loose.

What are you not comprehending? You are ignoring my point or are oblivious of it. I have already answered this question numerous times in my previous post. To explain it once more:

Take a breath. Imagine we have NO soldiers. What stops other nation's soldiers from murdering all of us? Nothing. All throughout history people have been killed for oil, spices, land, and other objects you have mentioned.

The United States military protects us from other nations from invading us for those reasons. Do you think those reasons would DISAPPEAR suddenly if our military is disbanded? If our government shut down the military, stopped manufacturing weapons and training soldiers, would the rest of the world cease to want our land, oil, and economy?

Answer this question if any of my questions:
Why do you believe humanity would become morally pure because of our military being gone?

We have soldiers because humankind is plagued with hatred and we need protection from other human beings.

You have no proof or reason to believe humankind will become pure-hearted if our nation just threw away our military. When I have proof that the only reason our nation exist is because of the protection the military has provided us over all of these years.

If we did not have military back in World War II and Germany decided to come fuck us up, how would we protect ourselves? You would "shoot them"? Wait.....does that mean you are a soldier?

You need the government to tax you to keep a structured government and relay those resources to different parts of the economy, including the military, in order to provide the protection that has kept us safe since before the world wars.

You do not read much history books, do you? In the wild west, people would shoot each other because someone was looking at them the wrong way in a bar. Just for being alive and glancing over at someone, could lead to your death. Humanity has always been extremely aggressive and you should not use one of the roughest times as an example to prove a point.

I am not saying that everyone would be willing to do this. Obviously not. I am saying that people killed over land, spices, oil, etc. If you were in their way, they would kill you. Are you willing to hand over everything to people without a fight? Are you prepared to suck some North Koreans dirty old dick, just because he wants you to? You want to protect yourself from that? You want to keep a gun on yourself and shoot down anyone who threatens your life or pride? Then you belong in the wild west because that is the structure they maintained. Now, we have a different system. Instead of having to shoot every immoral guy, we set up a defensive system to protect ourselves from ever running into that circumstance. You are acting like you would rather run around on a horse with a cowboy hat on and shoot everyone that threatens you. You seem much more murderous than a soldier.

Impressive. You seem intellectual and educated. (I'm hoping you understand sarcasm, and it isn't above your head.)

No one is forcing you to do this. You can leave the country. What is stopping you? The government is not stopping you from moving to a third world nation. They require money to keep our structure in-tact. If you prefer a third-world's system of life, get the fuck out.

This. This right here. It makes me believe that you are attempting an internet troll. However, you are wasting just as much time as me to respond back to these long quoted messages. I can debate my point forever.

Our economic structure would not exist without protection which is provided by the military. Why would there be an economic structure? There is a list of wars you can research to find that other nations want what we can provide. They will take it by force.

https://www.newyorkfed.org/aboutthefed/fedpoint/fed01.html

You mean that you earn money in a system that allows you to make money? Just imagine if you grew up under a dictatorship where you did not have the ability to make money. All of you work would be for the government and your freedom taken away from you. You have freedom to make money. How do believe that freedom is given to you? Do think you are obligated to freedom because you were born into this world? I am sorry buttercup, but the entire history of the human race proves you wrong. You only get that possibility because of the system our people have built through wars.

Key word, "violate". You are trying to say they are attempting to "violate" your rights. Meaning you, in fact, have rights. Where do those rights come from? You would not have the right to ANYTHING without our system, including the military. It is better to have some of your "rights" restricted instead of being completely taken away.

 

I'm a Mensa qualifier, so get ready to pity the 99% of people who have less brains than me.

So I need soldiers to protect me from soldiers?

So I need soldiers to protect me from soldiers?

I don't know why you are mocking North Korean slaves, but where is the military saving them? They aren't. http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/16/asia/north-korea-warmbier-sentenced/

The military isn't protecting him. North Koreans made him their slave. You are PRETENDING that the military is protecting him, but they are too busy bombing and raping civilians to give a shit about whether or not North Korea takes American slaves.

You keep saying that soldiers keep people alive, but soldiers are the number 1 cause of unnatural human death in human history. So when you make claims like "You would be dead if it weren't for soldiers", it is a contradiction. That is why you are unable to provide a single shred of proof that soldiers keep anyone alive, because the purpose of a soldier is to kill others for money.

If there are NO soldiers then there are NO soldiers in other nations to murder us.

No, I have a job. Soldiers are hired. Self defense is not soldiery.

Soldiers keep me safe from what? Other soldiers? What is the government taxing me and drafting me to protect me from, other governments who would also tax and draft me?

People shoot each other now, soldiers don't prevent that -- soldiers do the vast majority of the shooting.

If they are threatening me, it's self defense, not murder. Soldiers, on the other hand, are paid to do the murdering.

I own my own land, leave where?

You say I need soldiers to shoot rapists. I can just shoot the rapist. It's not a troll, I just blew your argument the FUCK OUT

Economics is the science of people trading with one another. It has nothing to do with the military.

Imagine? Do I have the freedom to keep the money I earn now?

Have you noticed that the government takes a cut of everything I buy, everything I sell, everything I own? They decide how much pay my employees, who I hire, and who I sell to. That isn't the freedom to make money.

Yes. Do you think I'm obligated to be a slave because I was born into this world?