Why are people against marijuana still, in 2014?

Everyone I've ever met that smokes weed is a brain dead idiot. Whether this is a coincidence or not I don't know. But personally I do think it hurts your brain.

I do know that there is two chemicals in it, one that gets you high and enables you to hallucinate and another that has a uncanny healing ability I've seen myself.

So I am against it's use for getting high and hurting yourself, if it does. But I'm all for extracting the second chemical to help people in need.

Disclaimer: My definition of "against" is that I wouldn't do it and I wouldn't be a friend to someone who does it around me. But I wouldn't tell anyone how to live their life.

 

Perhaps every person you've met that you knew smokes weed, but surely not every person. I know plenty of very intelligent people who smoke. Do they abuse it though? No.

Also, here's the thing about science, it doesn't care about your opinion. I can say I personally think vaccinations cause autism, but that doesn't make me any less wrong. Studies have shown that such a link is a farce. It doesn't matter if I agree with science, but if it's right, it's right (well there is no absolute fact, but you get the point.)

THC and CBD

Marijuana is not a hallucinogenic

You need a definitive basis that it is hurting yourself, but what about people who drink alcohol or smoke cigarettes? Would you not be friends with them? They are after all hurting their liver and lungs.

 

I'm not openly opposed to it, the only thing that keeps me away from it is the studies on the affects of it to the adolescent brain in regards to critical thinking, IQ, motivation and things of that sort. I mean most of what I read was off sites like drugabuse.gov so I wouldn't doubt it's a bit exaggerated, but there is a clear consensus it does have a negative affect on the teenage brain is used heavily. It was to my understanding that your brain isn't fully developed until 25 years of age and since that was the only downside to marijuana I could find I thought I'll just wait till then if I really wanted to use it rather than risk it.

 

Because people have absolutely no respect for individual rights. When people don't "like" something for whatever reason they get the state involved. It doesn't matter what it is, if you disobey you're likely to find yourself in a cage or shot.

 

Marijuana should be legal, if anything, alcohol should be banned.

 

Alcohol should be banned? Remember they tried that before (18th amendment). Didn't work out, and thus the 21st amendment was created.

 

I wish I could up vote this so much

He may of been comparing the two in such a way that alcohol is significantly more dangerous than marijuana.

 

Well, Honestly it should be legalized but since if it does "Mobs" "Gangs" and many other investors will lose a lot more money.. So i doubt it can be 100% Legalized but who knows!

 

Right, a prohibition. The current laws in our country regarding cannabis resemble a prohibition very much -- to me, at least. History is bound to repeat itself if you don't learn from it, everyone should really see where the legalization movement is going. Prohibitions directly interfere with all individuals' constitutional and personal rights and they will never work. You don't have to like it, you don't have to use it, but fighting against it in this day and age with all the medical research that has surfaced... it's really just stupid.

I think though, he was just making a point about the drastic difference in the effect each substance has on your overall health. Alcohol is basically just flavored poison and must be used in very serious moderation to be safe or even healthy for you. It seems like it should be banned, but people still want to use it, so we let them.

 

I agree, but FWIW, sometimes the negative effects of prohibiton(Rights violation) are better than the negative effects of allowing something to be freely traded and owned. For example nuclear bombs or nuclear power plants, yes it is a violation of my rights if the state takes away my nuclear artifacts or puts me in jail, but the alternative would be some places blowing up because of malicious intent or irresponsable practices.
On the one hand it's ok to let people know that this is a restriction of privacy, but barring the most uninvolved people in politics, most people know this already, we should also complement that argument with an argument of the negative effects that it has on other people. i.e: Who am I inconveniencing so much by smoking weed that it makes the violation of this right of mine a better alternative?
Furthermore whatever claims anyone does about my inconvenience to others should be founded with empirical evidence. And only then should they be taken into consideration and weighed against the violation of rights.

Claims that inconvenience myself should be disregarded completely as irrelevant (i.e: Health issues)

 

This is a horrible comparison. Nuclear weapons and materials are hardly as easy to come across and have the potential to do wide-spread damage. Smoking weed will effect you, no one else. Setting off a nuclear device has the potential to disrupt an entire city/country/even world.

 

That's a pretty slanted comparison you just made. I understand the point you're trying to convey -- I think -- that prohibition can be used to protect the people from a potentially harmful substance or material. Like alcohol. Fair enough. But that doesn't make it okay for other people to

a) Infringe on your constitutional and God-given rights as a person.
b) Make your life decisions for you.

For example, liquor is really not good for you but people choose to drink it anyway because they enjoy it.

 

It's a drug.

Drugs are bad.

End of story.

No wait, 95% of marijuana intake is through smoke! Is smoke supposed to be in your lungs? Yes? No!

After all of the campaigning against cigarette smokers, almost everyone should know the effects of smoke in your lungs....

But wait, not only should you have smoke in your lungs, you should mozy around and waste half of your life on the couch eating potato chips and participating in the unproductiveness of society.

You should set examples for your children that they should be satisfied with living simply and smoking their sense away instead of pushing forward to be productive citizens. That they shouldn't continue to educate themselves and make their next generation successful.

Hmmm, marijuana legalization. Not a joke.

 

You have got to be fucking trolling right now, son.

Have you done a single bit of research on the health effects of medical marijuana? Clearly not, because all you've done in your post is slander the name of marijuana users with zero factual evidence other than: "SMOKE IS BAD FER YER LUNGZ!1"

Fact: Marijuana was a popular botanical medicine in the 19th and early 20th centuries, common in US pharmacies of the time (and its use can actually be dated back to 2700 BC).

Fact: Today a wealth of research shows marijuana does have outstanding promise as a medicinal plant, largely due to its cannabinoid content.

Fact: Medical doctors treat a wide variety of patients with medical cannabis.

Fact: According to a study published in Journal of the American Medical Association in January 2012, marijuana does not impair lung function and can even increase lung capacity.

Fact: CBD may help prevent cancer from spreading, researchers at California Pacific Medical Center in San Francisco reported in 2007.

You seem to be simply operating on propaganda-based "knowledge" and an illusory perception of the average marijuana user. I mean seriously, you know that Reefer Madness movie was a joke, right? Let me cite for you some people who have publicly admitted to using marijuana and you tell me if you think these people are "living simply and smoking their sense away instead of pushing forward to be productive citizens."

• Our President Barack Obama
• Bill Gates
• George Clooney
• Bill Maher
• John Kerry
• Michael Bloomberg
• Jennifer Anniston
• Michael Phelps
• Morgan Freeman
• Hugh Heffner
• Rick Steves

You have got to be out of your damn mind to come in here with some ignorance like I've never seen before in my life. Don't come back until you learn yourself, fool.


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tbh i love all the quoting you did here and fact checking but do you honestly think smoking marijuana is good for you're lungs?

 

Smoke can be damaging to your lungs but you must understand that you don't need to smoke marijuana to receive the medical benefits. Concentrates, edibles , tinctures and vaporizing are all excellent ways to consume cannabis that have no negative health effects.

 

Guys this was in response to someone claiming that the fact that prohibition is a violation of his rights, that there shouldn't be any prohibition. That's not a good enough argument.

Guys this was in response to someone claiming that the fact that prohibition is a violation of his rights, that there shouldn't be any prohibition. That's not a good enough argument.

You should not argue that it infringes on your rights. Everyone knows that already, you should be arguing on why they should infringe on your rights. And every time you discuss with someone, you should acknowledge that it is ok to take away someone's rights sometimes. If you say something like, I should be able to do what I want when I want, you are not going to convince anyone of your point of view. Because that is a silly way of thinking and it doesn't work. With that line of thought, you should be able to carry nuclear weapons. You should try to convince people that drugs are not nuclear weapons, and you should be open to accepting prohibition if they damage society as nuclear weapons do.

The same way you just did to me, you explained me how smoking marijuana is different than nuclear weapons and do not merit similar treatment.

 

I'm guessing it's because religions are against smoking, and parents are aswell. Idk.

 

No, this is exactly the kind of attitude that is being cultivated in today's society. It is NOT FUCKING OKAY TO TAKE AWAY PEOPLE'S RIGHTS, ESPECIALLY UNDER THE GUISE OF 'PROTECTION' WHEN IN REALITY THEY ARE SIMPLY MAKING DECISIONS FOR YOU. I don't need the fucking government to protect me from myself and how I choose to live my life. How old are you? Is this the kind of shit they teach in school now? That it's okay for Big Brother to step all over you as long as he says it's okay?

 

Not to protect yourself, to protect others. The ban on nuclear weapons is pretty reasonable, so is the ban on rape, the ban on murder. Those thing take away rights from people (rapists, murderers, maniacal scientists), the righ to their freedom, for the greater good of society. It is ok to take away people's right sometimes. That's why the argument from personal freedom doesn't quite work on a vacuum.