White people are not to blame for slavery.

Yes, but, subject at hand is whites.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_slave_trade

Maybe you should do a little more reading.

 

It was all about money and it always will be. Why does it matter who was to blame?

Everyone played their part in the slave trade, there was no single faction to blame.

The slave trade has been around as long as man has existed (In other countries around the world) and yet we continue argue over who did what and for what reasons. Learn from the past.

One of my favourite quotations;
In the carriages of the past you can't go anywhere.

 

I completely agree, slavery was not initial brought up by the white folk.
Slavery has been around forever, the Native Americans held their enemies captive as slaves, as did spartians, and many other military forces\ethnic groups. Slavery was publicized by the White folk though as it was extremely prevalent in the United States throughout history.
Slavery has forever changed the world and the United States because some people will always hold on to the anti-racial feelings brought upon by slavery depending on how they feel. There will always be supporters of it, and racism will always be a constant issue 'til the end of time.

 

Since when is wikipedia a credible source? If you look at my previous posts.. I posted that exact same link that you're trying to provide me with now...

LOL

 

So it's credible when you post it but not him?

 

There is no excuse you could come up with for slavery that will make "White people" innocent.
Trying to prove such a thing is simply moronic. Every argument you've stated as of now can be ridiculized in half as second. Who cares if the African Tribesmen offered their own people? If someone offers you crack and you take it whose fault is it? And what kind of explanation could you find for the way people of colour were (and still are) treated in the U.S? What kind of explanation do you have for the way slaves were treated by the farmers/etc?
Quit this argument now before you dig a hole to deep to climb back up.

 

First, big, example of slavery ik of is the Pilgrims and Indians. Ik that the reason Black people now always talk about slavery in the ways they do is because their ancestors did go through hell. Anyways, they shouldn't completely turn it into a 'Black and White' thing. It could of been the other way around just as easily.

 

we can't blame "white americans" for slavery I agree, but the slavery that we had here in the United States was completely different than the slavery in Africa that you used to support your argument. the slavery in Africa was mainly slavery based on dominance. Most slaves were slaves of warring tribes. If you lost, you were taken as a slave. In the US, slavery was based firstly on money, and later on racism. White people during the time of the founding of the US believed themselves to be superior beings, don't deny that. They believed it on a scientific level. Even Thomas Jefferson believed whites were superior.

and on your "pulling the race card" point, I 100% agree. Minorities that pull the race card when they are clearly in the wrong is extremely annoying, and should not be done. That being said, many whites today, while they may not be racists, DO look at african american (especially males) in different ways than they do white males. Trust me, as a black male who has been in white school his whole life, I would know.

 

You didn't post that link. All I see is you explaining demographics of crime filled communities. Also, Wikipedia is a credible source. It's actually an excellent source of information.

+1

 

Someone needs to start a thread on this.

 

Slavery has been around long before "the white man". Native Americans used the tribes they captured during battles as slaves for centuries before Europeans used Africans as slaves

 

I love how people are bitching when like you said, Slavery was created in Africa by Africans using Africans. So when European explorers find it, the Slave Masters see a way of making money and sell them. So guess what ITS YOUR OWN DAMN FAULT. You shouldn't get picked over me for college because they have to make a quota. There is too many double standards, and i see racism against Whites from blacks way more than white racism to blacks. Also NAACP is a joke, why don't we make a organization for the advancement of white people, oh yeah that would be racist. BET i'd like to make a WET that has some racism like shows aired on BET, but that will never happen because that would be 'racist'

 

Slavery was not "created" in Africa. You're stupid as shit if you believe that.

Read the mother fucking thread before you mother fucking post. Go somewhere else and rant, idiot.

 

In Australia we have a similar problem with the native Aboriginal people. While there are some successful ones, you look at a large amount of them and they squander what income they get, even if it's through welfare, on alcohol and drugs. They cling to hurts of the past generation and can't help themselves.

One must acknowledge that indeed white people had a lot to do with the beating down and discrimination of black people some time ago, but the fact of the matter is equality is there for those who take it. If you're going to squander your money on alcohol and drugs and spend the rest of your life being an unsupportable, lazy drunk, then that's your choice but to be honest that's no reason to pull the racism card once someone tells them to get up off their arse and do something about it. And believe me, it happens.

I can't speak from the perspective of one who knows of the socio-economic situation in America; I'm Australian, and I've never really showed interest outside of cities like Boston (for things like MIT and Harvard), so I really have no idea about the American perspective. I'd imagine this is a very similar situation though, just that American blacks seem (at least the way you guys portray it) a lot more active in this sense.

 

Well, dont invade their land and take their people and then say NO to immigration, completly contradicts what the slave trade was

 

Comparing slavery and immigration is quite a leap considering the distance and changes between the various policies isn't it?

 

I agree completely.

And another point to be mentioned is how they call each other derogatory terms (the "N" word) yet if anyone calls them by the same terms (it's wrong to do so), they get all mad and the person can get "done" for racism

 

Only when you're trying to discredit someone by using a wikipedia article. When you're just offering it as a read, like I was, there's no problem.

Try using wikipedia as a source on a college research paper, It won't fly. At least at my school. Not saying it's not an excellent source, but it's not always credible. How are the demographics wrong? You can't look past the fact that a lot, if not most, of the bad neighborhoods are primarily black. Neighborhoods that are primarily white aren't that bad, so what's the difference between the two neighborhoods? The people occupying them. They make the neighborhood what it is.


AAAAAAAND, if it is credible.. This is from the link I was provided with by The Riddler_

 

I am not White nor Black so i'm just throwing out my personal opinion here, do not be offended.
I personally think that White people do deserve the shame of what you stated above because all White people DID take place in Slavery and owned Slaves back then.
Their were only a few Abolitionists to stop slavery at the time and most White people did not care.

 

The only thing I really agree with in this thread is that black people shouldn't try to pull the race card when they are clearly in the wrong. I live in Flint, MI, a predominantly black area, and I am white, white is the minority here. And I swear, I have walked into a store and been called the KKK just for being white and had eggs thrown at my car and stuff. I can't even count how many times something has happened where someone has said something about me being white and slavery.

I am a manager at where I work, and I had asked an african american employee to do something, which was part of their job, and they looked at me and said, "in case you didn't know, slavery ended." I'm like, seriously, you are getting paid, do your job.

It is so old here and I get so so sick of it. No one in this day and age had anything to do with it. I should feel guilty because White people in the past had slaves? No. I don't have control over that shit, so why would I feel guilt? Do I think it was wrong? Yes, of course, but I don't feel at all responsible. Plus, Michigan was a free state, people came here to get away from slavery.