What should I look and focus on? (CPU)

[DMR]

When I am botting, should I consider looking at the CPU chart below or the temps of the cores? Running at 90-100% shouldn't be a problem right?

 

[Noodles :)]

CPU % is the amount of CPU being used, so that'd be more aimed at botting(knowing when you can use more bots), I'd run 80% max if you plan on browsing the web at the same time, but if you are just leaving bots running get as many going.
Temps, you don't want them higher then 60-70ish depending on your CPU.

 

[DMR]

It's an Intel Core i7 2600.

If it does go higher than that (temp), it will degrade or ruin the CPU right?

I've had 10 bots run on a computer with the CPU usage going at 99-100% and the fans would just go on for a few minutes if it was hot and exceeded 100%... does this happen with every computer? I believe the temps was high on it.

When the temps is high, will the fans inside go on inside giving me kind of a alert on it?

 

[Noodles :)]

It will degrade in the long run if it's run at high temps.
The fan should ramp up to deal with the temps usually.
And some computers if the temp exceeds xx amount it'll turn off.

 

[Clashfan]

There's no reason to assume your cpu is getting too hot just because when it's at load your fans come on. http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php install that

 

[Noodles :)]

It just ramps up because the temperature is rising. as long as it doesnt exceed around 70-80c it's fine.

 

[Ivy Bridge]

Heat really doesn't degrade CPUs until it's in the outrageous numbers like 100c+, which you won't get unless you like run it without a heatsink or some shit lol

Voltage increases are what really degrades your CPU and shortens it's lifetime, you could run at 1.75v 24/7 and have a processor die in a year vs having a processor running at 90c 24/7 and it last 5 years. Obviously guesses, but the point stands.

So as long as you're not getting outrageous temps (look up the temp your cpu is rated to run up to, should give you a guideline of what to look out for) you have nothing to worry about. Using the processor at 100% won't degrade it either. If it's solely a botting PC just run as many bots as you possibly can. If you wanna browse the internet I'd do like Noodles said and try to stay around 80% usage on just bots.

GL, if you need to check temps a good program is AIDA64. Not sure if it's free, I just dled the trial version and found a serial online, but it's a great program for monitoring temps and seeing other various info about your pc

 

[DMR]

Heat really doesn't degrade CPUs until it's in the outrageous numbers like 100c+, which you won't get unless you like run it without a heatsink or some shit lol

Voltage increases are what really degrades your CPU and shortens it's lifetime, you could run at 1.75v 24/7 and have a processor die in a year vs having a processor running at 90c 24/7 and it last 5 years. Obviously guesses, but the point stands.

So as long as you're not getting outrageous temps (look up the temp your cpu is rated to run up to, should give you a guideline of what to look out for) you have nothing to worry about. Using the processor at 100% won't degrade it either. If it's solely a botting PC just run as many bots as you possibly can. If you wanna browse the internet I'd do like Noodles said and try to stay around 80% usage on just bots.

GL, if you need to check temps a good program is AIDA64. Not sure if it's free, I just dled the trial version and found a serial online, but it's a great program for monitoring temps and seeing other various info about your pc

Can someone second what he has said? I am getting different answers but not sure who's right.

 

[Noodles :)]

Mainly correct, but he is kinda wrong with the temp.
Intel recommend 70c max I'm pretty sure(off the top of my head).
Running it at higher then that temp for large periods of time will damage the chip.
The CPU should only get to around 60c on stock clocks with stock cooler(my i7 860 gets around 60c whilst gaming and that's with no case fans at all.)

So basically you just want the chip to stay around 70c max, 55-60c would be the average gaming temp.

 

[DMR]

What does AMD recommend? I botted on my AMD processor for long periods of times and the temp was pretty high but I never saw differences when first bought and now...

and when you say degrade, how badly will it degrade?

 

[Ivy Bridge]

Mainly correct, but he is kinda wrong with the temp.
Intel recommend 70c max I'm pretty sure(off the top of my head).
Running it at higher then that temp for large periods of time will damage the chip.
The CPU should only get to around 60c on stock clocks with stock cooler(my i7 860 gets around 60c whilst gaming and that's with no case fans at all.)

So basically you just want the chip to stay around 70c max, 55-60c would be the average gaming temp.

The tjmax for SB is 100c. It will start to throttle down at about 90c, but you won't really get those temps unless you don't properly seat the cooler or have a huge OC/volt increase.

Of course temps degrade your CPU but it's seriously negligible. These chips are very resilient, you could run it at 90c 24/7 and it would still probably outlast even a modest vcore of like 1.5v (modest in the sense that it's pretty much the max you'll see on a consumer level).. The heat has to get so intense that it literally melts or something like that before heat would kill a chip. That's why you see people who do subzero overclocks kill their chips at high volts. It's not the temperature, it's the voltage that ultimately degrades your CPU.

Keep in mind I'm not saying you can run shit at like 150c and not run into problems as long as your vcore is low, I just mean that temperature is a MUCH smaller factor in terms of degradation

 

[DMR]

My tjmax is 98C so does that mean that running at around 95-98C shouldn't be a direct kill?

 

[Ivy Bridge]

No but obviously you want to get less than that just because while it may not cause it to degrade super fast or anything, it can't be good for the chip. I'd say anything over 80c you might want to invest in some aftermarket cooling just to ensure everything will be fine.

Have you checked your temps yet? Unless you have like a 4.2-4.5GHz OC on stock cooling I doubt you'll be seeing anywhere close to that 98c figure.

 

[DMR]

My PC is at 56-61C with a lot of programs open. I'm not sure how to check my cooling but my Processor exactly is, Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 Sandy Bridge CPU @ 3.40GHz.

 

[Ivy Bridge]

The best way I've found to test CPU temps in a worst case scenario is to run a prime95 blend test with AIDA64 open and monitoring my temps. After 10 or 15 minutes, the temps should peak out and you'll be able to see how well your heatsink is doing.

60C would be a good temp but if you're not maxing out your processor with very cpu intensive programs then that temperature doesn't really mean a whole lot. You might be essentially idling at 60c, which would be a bit on the hot side.

 

[Noodles :)]

Alright, when you see this thread next DMR, after you turn your PC on the next time don't do anything intensive, just simple web browsing for around 20minutes to half an hour then tell us what your CPU temps are.

And the max temp is 72c on the intel website, where the fuck did you get 100c? :s

 

[Ivy Bridge]

Alright, when you see this thread next DMR, after you turn your PC on the next time don't do anything intensive, just simple web browsing for around 20minutes to half an hour then tell us what your CPU temps are.

You basically just told him to give us an idle temp lol, which doesn't help much when determining if his temps are too hot. A friend of mine who didn't seat his cooler right had idles in the 40s and loads in the 90s, he needs to give us a load temp for us to be able to tell anything lol

And the max temp is 72c on the intel website, where the fuck did you get 100c? :s

Because I have a 2500k and the tjmax on CPU-Z is like 98C? Haven't checked it since the day I did my build which was like 2 weeks ago, so I rounded it up to 100C. The tjmax is when your processor will either throttle down or shutdown, not sure if you knew that or not. The recommended temperature might be 72c, but that's being EXTREMELY generous lol. Your chip will not fail at 72c, muchless 80-90c lol. Doesn't mean those kind of temps are acceptable for everyday use though.

The tjmax values are actually pretty 'lax too, the chips could easily handle 20-25C above that value before any harm happens but the point is to avoid getting to that point by throttling frequency/voltage and/or shutting down before it gets to those unsafe temps