| What it is to be Trusted |

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| What it is to be Trusted |
  1. Unread #1 - Jul 1, 2011 at 1:08 AM
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    | What it is to be Trusted |

    I was wondering how people gauge trust. I have a skill training service, and in the RS Services page you see a lot of threads putting "Trusted" in their title. Usually I have more vouches then they do and I don't even like putting "trusted" or anything similar in my thread title or in my first post, out of fear of someone posting "HAHA! BUSTED, No you are not trusted !".

    So my question to the community is how do you gauge trust ? When would you put "Trusted" in your title ?
     
  3. Unread #2 - Jul 6, 2011 at 10:41 AM
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    | What it is to be Trusted |

    I think putting trusted in your title is a sign of a scam unless you have a LARGE amount of vouches (I'd say about 50+).
    I suppose there's no real way of measuring trust, but vouches do help to give a good idea.
    Also, the more you donate, the more you'll be trusted, and the more trades you'll get.
    Basically, this is how i see sythers...
    We need to look at people's accounts and ask how much is the account worth. Like. How much would that person lose if they scammed?
    For example. If somebody is a $100 donator, even with 1 post and 0 vouches, they're instantly trustable up to $100. Otherwise they're making a loss.
    Of course it's not that clear cut though. Somebody could donate $100, scam do 5 $100 trades and charge them all back. $400 profit. But you've got to think "How much does that account MEAN to the person in charge of it?".
    That's how i measure trust at least.
     
  5. Unread #3 - Jul 6, 2011 at 10:50 AM
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    | What it is to be Trusted |

    Vouches is the best gauge for trust in my opinion. I've rarely seen people with 100+ vouches scam. I've seen some but rarely.
    Also, the more trades you have, the more trusted you are also which means , more vouches.

    Regarding donation which is stated ^, I can support that statement. Yeah if they donate BIG enough which is 100$ and above, I can safely say you can trust them but not fully.
    By presenting yourself professionally can also change someone's view on you.

    Let's take an account that is like recently created in the month of July. 2 accounts in the month of July. No post counts or anything. Just the account itself.
    Account 1 opened a shop with Thread Layout, good grammar, presentable thread and stuffs like that against a person who doesn't even bother about his grammar.
    I would take that Account 1 guy instead of the 2nd. That's how I explain trust to myself.
     
  7. Unread #4 - Jul 6, 2011 at 10:59 AM
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    | What it is to be Trusted |

    I agree that donations and vouches are good way to be trusted, but i think helping out in the community does it too. Answering questions, shit like that. Just generally helping out, how many banned users do you see with approved suggestions ? Just a positive presence on the forums.

    Honestly I thought everyone just ignored this thread lol.
     
  9. Unread #5 - Jul 6, 2011 at 11:05 AM
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    | What it is to be Trusted |

    ^ THIS
     
  11. Unread #6 - Jul 6, 2011 at 11:08 AM
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    | What it is to be Trusted |

    Yep, I think its vouches as well but also I think it is experience in the field. After you do business with ~10 people~ and they all comment how fast, and good you were. People will trust you

    also, it matters how long you've been in the community. As you can see, im a newbie , and not so likely to get much trust on my end =(
     
  13. Unread #7 - Jul 6, 2011 at 11:08 AM
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    | What it is to be Trusted |

    I NEVER go on how much they've donated, but rather on how many trades they have done and how long they have been a member of sythe for. With donations, i could say get a few more vouches, donate $200 of my own money, and then people might think, hey this guys been here a few years, yea he hasn't got loads of vouches but he has donated a fair amount, lets trust him and trade. With that, they might trade me stuff of more value than the $200, so i could just make people trust me with the donations, and then scam stuff worth more than $200. (I wouldnt but you get where im coming from).
     
  15. Unread #8 - Jul 6, 2011 at 11:10 AM
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    | What it is to be Trusted |

    I've thought about what you are saying myself Lord Lala. I never trade more then the donated amount to someone that doesn't have sufficient vouches. But then again it's still a risk.
     
  17. Unread #9 - Jul 6, 2011 at 11:11 AM
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    | What it is to be Trusted |

    I have around 150+ vouches maybe already in my 2 months of stay here in sythe. And by the way to explain to you why it's better to donate, is that when I started here, I needed to sell at a very low price to gain trust and faster sales, but when i knew about donating, I realize that rather than selling low, I can gain more if I donate coz i can sell easy at med price if i get that donator rank. You can give back to sythe plus you have a very cool donator rank.:p

    edit: 4 months of stay here in sythe not 2, damn I'm stupid.:p
     
  19. Unread #10 - Jul 6, 2011 at 11:11 AM
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    | What it is to be Trusted |

    To me you're trusted when you have done lots of trade's, so vouches.
    And you have a good reputation, Donator rank's do mind a little, but some people donate a certain amount, to scam later more.
    Just do you're trades fair, and get into the community, and you will earn more trust by the time.
     
  21. Unread #11 - Jul 6, 2011 at 11:46 AM
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    | What it is to be Trusted |

    Trust is acquired over time imo. Becoming a donator is one way of taking a shortcut or "buying" trust, ie a $100 donator isn't very likely to scam $5.

    As always when these threads pop the general consensus is quantity and quality of vouches (with the emphasis being on quality) is a good gauge of trust. Of course there also mods with very little vouches but would still be deemed trusted.

    It's up to each individual sythe user determine how much they can trust the person they are trading with. There is no set requirements or checklist to become "trusted"
     
  23. Unread #12 - Jul 6, 2011 at 11:56 AM
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    | What it is to be Trusted |

    Exactly!
    Its like newcomers starting a quest service and throwing in all this "[Reliable] [Trustworthy] Shit into their title. Self proclamation seems to be a big thing on sythe...
     
  25. Unread #13 - Jul 6, 2011 at 2:13 PM
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    I consider myself pretty trusted, 100+ vouches, tons of posts, donated $300+ and ex mod, but some newcomers try tell me "you first bro" I'm like lol.
     
  27. Unread #14 - Jul 6, 2011 at 2:21 PM
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    | What it is to be Trusted |

    Trusted people are people with 1k posts+ and over 100 vouches, and 100+ donators to me. and been here for a few years.
     
  29. Unread #15 - Jul 6, 2011 at 2:27 PM
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    Yeah ur trusted when you are here for a long time. I don't trade with people that say joined 2011 lol
     
  31. Unread #16 - Jul 6, 2011 at 6:41 PM
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    | What it is to be Trusted |

    Join date doesn't matter to me, cause I've seen people sell 2008 acc's on my clan website.

    I like to check vouches, but only the recent ones, so I have a good idea, what this guy has been up to lately.

    Donator rank doesn't mean much to me unless it's over 50$, but even then, I'd put [Donor] in my title not [Trusted].

    I also like to see the recent threads and posts they've made.

    That's how I look to see if I should trust them or not.
     
  33. Unread #17 - Jul 6, 2011 at 6:54 PM
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    I just started of small like pin's and everyone was happy with all my pin's then i started selling my own made pure's and dealt in rare's buying and selling them, i sold like 20+ pure's all about 100+ doller's eachand i got more custom because i never taken any account's back so people felt safe :)
    then i just MM'ed everything no matter how big or small till i got OMM stats

    Took me 2 and year's to get to OMM stats and every minute of just being my self was worth it :)

    The amount of vouchs is important but the quality of those vouchs are how i judge people mostly - like i would not sell rsgp
     
  35. Unread #18 - Jul 6, 2011 at 7:04 PM
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    I would consider a trusted member to have atleast 50 vouches.

    $50+ Donors I also trust quite a bit.

    Also vouches, I mainly look at the ones from known users, so I'm sure its not fake vouching.
     
  37. Unread #19 - Jul 6, 2011 at 7:11 PM
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    | What it is to be Trusted |

    Unless you trade often, trust doesn't come easily. I generally judge trust by post quality (around the forum: spam = someone trying to get high post count for trust) and quality debates, etc for someone who is actually engaging in the community,) and join date. Vouches play a part but vouches don't mean much to me considering most of the people who vouched for me are all banned now being scammers.
     
  39. Unread #20 - Jul 6, 2011 at 7:18 PM
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    | What it is to be Trusted |

    Most people are very stupid, and just look at join date. It means hardly anything to me. First of all I look at vouches. Donator also means a little. As well I usually look at the post count.
     
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