Was the colarado batman shootings staged?

[Kinks]

You're crazy. Twelve people were shot dead at a movie theater by a lunatic fuck. People like your self are ones who end up embarking on killing sprees.

narrow mindedness gets you nowhere. arn't you wise enough to think maybe, what were being given by the media is in fact wrong? obviously if the government came out and said hey guys, we just shot 12 people in order to gain sympathy votes through unity of the people like in 9/11, or to highlight our gun law agenda there would be public disary.

i'm not saying the government planned the whole thing, but the case itself is extremely riddled with misinformation from the media, limited information from authorities and false flags.

 

[Zerkerfist]

This is very interesting to read your points and the research you've done on this case, but I feel that the chance of it being a conspiracy is very slim, and is kind of paranoid.

Unfortunately, we live in a very fucked up world with a lot of fucked up people who do things like this, often for no clear reason or for reasons that regular people cannot understand. It would be nice to brush it off as a conspiracy rather than the absolutely horrific event of needless violence that it was, but that does not change the outcome in any way. 12 people are dead, and dozens more severely injured, and even though it is hard for some people to understand, it is the grim reality of things.

 

[Rsaccounttrader]

All the facts point to a 1 man effort. Before throwing accusations around like this you should have a MUCH more defined theory than "the government did it" (i.e. say what part of govt specifically and why).
Fact of the matter is there is no reasonable explanation put forward of how the "government" could have orchestrated this.

 

[Kinks]

All the facts point to a 1 man effort. Before throwing accusations around like this you should have a MUCH more defined theory than "the government did it" (i.e. say what part of govt specifically and why).
Fact of the matter is there is no reasonable explanation put forward of how the "government" could have orchestrated this.

the gear, is it possible for a citizen to get a hold of a set of top of the line riot gear, the amazing devices planted in his home, theres just to much unanswered questions. >_<

also, why are the police and government dismissing everything? the huge blood trail heading back onto the main road (enough to kill 2 people) was supposedly from a man obama visited, a neck wound. bullshit.
why if it was a lone gunman, was there a gas mask and another fully automatic rifle lying beside the exit? holmes still had all his on.

also go watch the video i posted in the opening post. from an eye witness sitting 2 yards away from holmes, he said he got up and wedged the fire door, and he believed holmes was signalling with his hand for someone else to enter.

 

[Rsaccounttrader]

the gear, is it possible for a citizen to get a hold of a set of top of the line riot gear, the amazing devices planted in his home, theres just to much unanswered questions. >_<

also, why are the police and government dismissing everything? the huge blood trail heading back onto the main road (enough to kill 2 people) was supposedly from a man obama visited, a neck wound. bullshit.
why if it was a lone gunman, was there a gas mask and another fully automatic rifle lying beside the exit? holmes still had all his on.

also go watch the video i posted in the opening post. from an eye witness sitting 2 yards away from holmes, he said he got up and wedged the fire door, and he believed holmes was signalling with his hand for someone else to enter.

The riot gear was confirmed as sold from a supplier. I believe the supplier was tacticalgear.com. They actually released the receipt.
The "amazing devices" were homemade explosives that actually ended up not working as planned. While the system was certainly complicated, he was well on his way to gaining a PhD in science so it wouldn't have been that hard for him.

He did in fact wedge the door so that he could escape. I highly doubt he signaled (clearly insane might have just been moving his hands). There may in fact have been someone else involved (a friend/accomplice he hasn't divulged) but I highly doubt that.

The extra gun was because he carried both an AR-15 variant and a shotgun, as well as 2 pistols and a tactical knife. This is all well documented by multiple federal agencies.

The thing you arent understanding is the ATF, FBI, state and local police, and maybe even international and intelligence agencies all send very qualified people to a crime scene like this. If something wasnt adding up, these investigators would investigate. There is no way the "big bad government" would be able to keep all those able minded investigators at bay.

 

[tangoed]

Wouldn't really like to give an opinion as i haven't really read into it; but i love these conspiracy theories and might look into this later today.

 

[Hostblapstat]

I really don't think it could have been staged. Seriously who would want to be confirmed dead when they really aren't.

 

[sadtoy336]

Yeah it definitely was not staged.

 

[ZThomas]

Are you serious? So people dieing were staged to? Doubtful.

 

[Predictable]

Yeah LOL at the people saying that Lil wayne's music video had anything to do with it as well. Trolls will troll.

 

[Marek]

where was he a danger to others?

speaking to his flat mate, he was shocked and despite the media feeding us this 'shy, recluse' status, he was an average kid. theres a video floating around of him doing a science presentation in college, even throws in a few jokes. :noworry:

I'm all for not just being spoon-fed what you're presented with, but I don't really think this was staged. For one, when people are being mowed down with an assault rifle in a place filled with people from multiple directions and are disoriented with tear gas, it would be easy to mis-interpret the situation, there have been worse mishaps with much less dramatizing events. Also, the argument that he seemed like a normal kid comes off as invalid to me, most successful serial killers master doing what they have to to get through society and showing an acceptable face, many serial killers were outstanding members of their community and well liked.. it's not always depressed kids dissecting things in their room. Also the kid's house was booby trapped to the teeth.. as for the note to police mentioned, he didn't warn the police he reached out to his school councilor and other support figures, it was a cry for help, common with those considering lashing out but feel the guilt associated with the event, they want to see someone stop them in some cases.. Though the event was unusual the causes were not and this isn't a new concept or an outstanding case of a troubled individual.

 

[SmokeHut]

Scopolamine ( I think it's spelled ) the famous drug from the nightshade plant only makes you highly vulnerable to suggestion I find it unlikely that this sort of suggestion could be received, Also Devil's Breath is very very easy to overdose on. Making the plan a little risky if he was to die from it.

 

[nodnarbusn]

You're crazy. Twelve people were shot dead at a movie theater by a lunatic fuck. People like your self are ones who end up embarking on killing sprees.

You sir are an judgmental asshole with no reasoning to support your outrageous offhand comment. You dont know anyone in this thread and are jumping to wild conclusions assuming anyone here would go on a killing spree. If only your ban was permanent, more judgmental pricks like you are the last thing sythe.org needs .

OT I dont think this is some grand conspiracy or anything but i do think more than one individual was involved. As do MANY individual eye witnesses, the only cover up i see a possibility of there being is them saying "we got the guy" .. if he was so deranged to kill all these people single handedly i HIGHLY doubt he would have been caught in such a peaceful manner, i HIGHLY doubt he would have has the tinge of guilt reflected by the act of him telling the cops his appt was booby trapped. It just doesnt add up, many EYE witnesses claim another individual was involved.. who are we or the police and media to say the eye witnesses are wrong. I dont buy that he acted alone on this, not what so ever .

 

[tMoon]

Most people have touched on anything I really felt the need to comment on so I'll just throw this in there.

*why would he inform them of bombs in his appartment if he wanted to kill people?

He had turned music up to an obnoxiously loud volume in his apartment expecting his neighbors to call the cops. What was supposed to happen:
Cops would arrive, knock on door, no one would answer, cops would proceed to enter the apartment. Upon entering, bombs were suppose to go off.

The point? This was all suppose to happen prior to the shooting taking place.
If bombs went off in an apartment building, you better bet cops, bomb squads, and such would be heading that way. This would create a diversion and let the movie-theater shooting go on for a much longer time.

Cops were tipped off about the bombs in the apartment when Holme's let something slip about his apartment building. When he was arrested, he assumed they had gone off while they hadn't.

Also, on a side not. Everyone talking about "eye-witness" reports. Only thing I'd like to say is that most people completely lose control (and I don't blame them) in scenario's such as the shooting. There is gas throughout the theater, the movie is still playing, gun shots are going off, people are screaming. People are either fending for them selves, or trying to protect the one's they love, most aren't thinking about looking for the guy, but trying to survive. You are over-estimating an individual's courage and self-control to think that normal (as in non-trained) people are really going to be paying that much detail to what's going on.
If you provide me a more "credible" source for an eye-witness, I will read it and give a second-opinion.