I have an idea that i have been sketching out in my past time for development as a web based game similair to tribalwars.net or astroempires.com it would incorporate things I like about both games as well as a whole new spin on it as well. game is nearly fully outlined but programming is not in my skillset. looking for a programming partner to come together with my business skills and game idea it should become as popular as either of these games. plan to make it a revenue generating game. free to play but lots of reasons to upgrade and even somethings to buy. This would just start out as a in our off time thing.
wanted: partner to create php web game
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I do just want to make sure you realize the immense size of a PHP-based game.
It is not very likely that you would find someone who is willing to code out something of this size for simply a revenue cut. If you did, I would suspect that the person would desire 100% of the revenue until they have been paid for their times and then as high as 75% of future revenue.
The business and idea are very small in actual importance if you are not able to make it a reality.
I am not saying don't go for this, but perhaps you are better to try and find someone who you know that is as into the idea as you are who has the programming skill-set that you lack!
Good luck.
It is not very likely that you would find someone who is willing to code out something of this size for simply a revenue cut. If you did, I would suspect that the person would desire 100% of the revenue until they have been paid for their times and then as high as 75% of future revenue.
The business and idea are very small in actual importance if you are not able to make it a reality.
I am not saying don't go for this, but perhaps you are better to try and find someone who you know that is as into the idea as you are who has the programming skill-set that you lack!
Good luck.
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Ohmaj, you've really not thought it through how are you going to pay for the server to begin with? Even a domain name is going to cost you, don't think that some **** domain will be suffice. Also you can't contemplate generating cash from such a project before it's even completed, you want a big user base before you charge people to actually have a fair chance at the game.
It's going to take even an experience php coder a fair while to produce a game like this. I suggest you use google and create it yourself. If your intelligent you'll probably be able to find most of the coding you need so if you spent 1-2 weeks learning php you'd stand a fair chance at being able to use someone elses code and modifying it.
Not sure if you're allowed to post links to downloads and such but i'll risk it http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html download that so you can test your game etc etc.
It's going to take even an experience php coder a fair while to produce a game like this. I suggest you use google and create it yourself. If your intelligent you'll probably be able to find most of the coding you need so if you spent 1-2 weeks learning php you'd stand a fair chance at being able to use someone elses code and modifying it.
Not sure if you're allowed to post links to downloads and such but i'll risk it http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html download that so you can test your game etc etc.
I already have Access to the server. And financial resources to purchase one when it is needed. I have the money and resources to sink in to the game but not the skill set fro programming. i have tried a couple times to learn PHP but the advanced stuff just isn't in my skill set. But thanks for all the encouragement guys and not really helping me at all this has been something i have been looking into for years not something i Googled one night when i was bored and thought gee wouldn't it be cool. I have seen other posts on this and similar sites of people just looking fro a similar project just to practice their skills. unfortunately those were outdated so getting in contact with those people was not feasible. with all the people on the internet im sure i can find just one that has a similar vision.
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Be specific about what you bring to the table. PHP programmers can code PHP. What can you do? Just saying you have an idea and business acumen isn't going to entice people.
Pay attention to your spelling and grammar, you're more likely to be taken seriously.
Pay attention to your spelling and grammar, you're more likely to be taken seriously.
This is a general comment not specifically directed at the person i am quoting. If you're not interested then don't respond i mean really. If you are interested and have questions feel free to ask. If I get no replies that's fine. I feel like im getting replies for the sake of replies because people just want to criticize, making blanket assumptions. You have a right to think whatever you want and move on. As they say if you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all. A concept so basic it is in a Disney movie about as old as i am. Please only post if you A. may be interested AND(not or) B. have something constructive to add to the discussion. If you aren't interested please just disregard and move on. I'm looking for one specific person that is more interested in the concept of build A game regardless of what the game is. I posted what i am looking for and that is all i am looking for if someone is interested and has concerns then by all means get in contact with me and i will explain them. I'm not going to put the whole idea out there for just anyone.
Oh and sorry my English isn't perfect on this forum i wasn't aware i was writing a dissertation. I think i do pretty well fro English as a second language.
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it's good that you've mentioned your willing to pay for the server etc, you should have done that in the first post. However you really need to use google better finding a good strategy game script like tribalwars.net etc won't be very hard. If you really feel incapable of doing that it might be an idea to have someone make it for you, with special comments in the code so you can alter the things you wish to. I haven't got a clue on what it would cost, I wouldn't do it myself, to much time for to little cash.
The cost of the server is going to range depending on how busy your game is and how much bandwidth etc your game uses. It's something you will need to google and remember cheap isn't always good.
The cost of the server is going to range depending on how busy your game is and how much bandwidth etc your game uses. It's something you will need to google and remember cheap isn't always good.
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Just put that you only want to hear from interested PHP programmers in your opening post so you don't waste time then.
There's no reason to be arsey.
I know you only want to hear from people who are interested in helping you, however, don't disregard what everyone else is saying, even if it's not what you want to hear.
I've toyed with the idea of PHP based games before. It's a lot more complex than it seems. Sure, if you know PHP, the code base is simple. What about networking, database structure and marketing? If you've researched this as much as you say, you'll have those aspects planned out, too.
If you want a recommendation, I'd recommend starting the PHP code yourself so you have something to show. Then look for a more advanced PHP coder to take over the project, while you put up the funds.
I've toyed with the idea of PHP based games before. It's a lot more complex than it seems. Sure, if you know PHP, the code base is simple. What about networking, database structure and marketing? If you've researched this as much as you say, you'll have those aspects planned out, too.
If you want a recommendation, I'd recommend starting the PHP code yourself so you have something to show. Then look for a more advanced PHP coder to take over the project, while you put up the funds.
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I have an ogame clone up right now, ogame clone aka Empire but i havnt started developing or advertising it yet, if you are interested in helping let me know. I want to add something unique, but i am not too sure what to add haha
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I may be interested in helping but know:
1) Due to the fact that I'm delivering a service worth thousands of dollars, I won't be covering any expenses. (Domain, server, internet, etc.)
2) We can talk on Skype. If I like the idea and I believe it has incentive, I'll help. If I believe it's unoriginal/not a good idea, I won't help.
3) Don't expect over-night results. If the fact that this is a huge, huge chore isn't enough, I'm a highly busy person.
Currently I'm working on a website for an ISP and a website for my bud's girlfriend's dad. I'm also working on creating an MMORPG (not by myself), and I'm trying to re-familiarize myself with Java.
With that said, I will work on it, and I will work on it a lot, but I can only devote so much time to things like this.
4) I get rights to 50% of the game and its profits.
Note: If I decide to help, discover you are a good person to work with (won't just quit, will pay for needed things, etc.) we will both definitely be signing a contract. (I will never go into business like this without one.) I can find a base one to build off of from the internet or you can, it's up to you.
Also, what are your plans on gaining revenue? (Ads, selling in-game content, selling membership, etc.) I will ask this when we talk, and I will ask specifics, so I would set down and think about this beforehand if you haven't already.
I've had my fair share of experience with this stuff, and I will be taking things into account that you might not have thought of. (Example being games that basically require you to purchase stuff to get the full experience. While they may raise money, they scare away users without money, and odds are the game will fail/maintain a small player-base.)
And a final question that you might want to have an answer to is your plan on graphics. (Are you doing them, are you expecting me to do them, what?)
I can do graphics for the website itself, but I wouldn't be the go to person for the character/monster images.
If I'm in charge of the gfx for the website I would be requesting another 5% of the game.
And I may know someone who can do images of characters, but there's no guarantees. (Before I started doing my own graphics I always depended on him. Needless to say, he wasn't the most reliable.) I know someone else who's very good with art, but I don't know if they would be good at creating it on anything other than paper. (I have a graphics tablet I plan on having him practice with, but there's no guarantees.) If you do have a decent $investment$ to work with, I'm sure I could find someone to make them if you're willing to pay, but most people I know won't do stuff for free. With that said, I would suggest you find someone who is good with graphics, or you hire someone, which may get expensive. (There may be some here on Sythe though.)
(A final option, though un-recommended, is to have one of us could create images, and as the user-base (and revenue) grows, we could hire someone to replace the current.)
If you agree to this PM me your Skype (or your Google - you can voice chat on gmail) and we can talk business. (Tomorrow isn't a good day for me though; can't say why, but it's just not. If nothing comes up I can talk Tuesday around 5 pm EST.)
Keep in mind, the more details you have, the better. There's no such thing as too much.
-W77
1) Due to the fact that I'm delivering a service worth thousands of dollars, I won't be covering any expenses. (Domain, server, internet, etc.)
2) We can talk on Skype. If I like the idea and I believe it has incentive, I'll help. If I believe it's unoriginal/not a good idea, I won't help.
3) Don't expect over-night results. If the fact that this is a huge, huge chore isn't enough, I'm a highly busy person.
Currently I'm working on a website for an ISP and a website for my bud's girlfriend's dad. I'm also working on creating an MMORPG (not by myself), and I'm trying to re-familiarize myself with Java.
With that said, I will work on it, and I will work on it a lot, but I can only devote so much time to things like this.
4) I get rights to 50% of the game and its profits.
Note: If I decide to help, discover you are a good person to work with (won't just quit, will pay for needed things, etc.) we will both definitely be signing a contract. (I will never go into business like this without one.) I can find a base one to build off of from the internet or you can, it's up to you.
Also, what are your plans on gaining revenue? (Ads, selling in-game content, selling membership, etc.) I will ask this when we talk, and I will ask specifics, so I would set down and think about this beforehand if you haven't already.
I've had my fair share of experience with this stuff, and I will be taking things into account that you might not have thought of. (Example being games that basically require you to purchase stuff to get the full experience. While they may raise money, they scare away users without money, and odds are the game will fail/maintain a small player-base.)
And a final question that you might want to have an answer to is your plan on graphics. (Are you doing them, are you expecting me to do them, what?)
I can do graphics for the website itself, but I wouldn't be the go to person for the character/monster images.
If I'm in charge of the gfx for the website I would be requesting another 5% of the game.
And I may know someone who can do images of characters, but there's no guarantees. (Before I started doing my own graphics I always depended on him. Needless to say, he wasn't the most reliable.) I know someone else who's very good with art, but I don't know if they would be good at creating it on anything other than paper. (I have a graphics tablet I plan on having him practice with, but there's no guarantees.) If you do have a decent $investment$ to work with, I'm sure I could find someone to make them if you're willing to pay, but most people I know won't do stuff for free. With that said, I would suggest you find someone who is good with graphics, or you hire someone, which may get expensive. (There may be some here on Sythe though.)
(A final option, though un-recommended, is to have one of us could create images, and as the user-base (and revenue) grows, we could hire someone to replace the current.)
If you agree to this PM me your Skype (or your Google - you can voice chat on gmail) and we can talk business. (Tomorrow isn't a good day for me though; can't say why, but it's just not. If nothing comes up I can talk Tuesday around 5 pm EST.)
Keep in mind, the more details you have, the better. There's no such thing as too much.
-W77