User Eds making cash

So it has been brought to my attention that the great (some of them) tutorials that you've been posting have been going unnoticed and most probably ignored.
Deacon suggested that these tutorials be sold on the internet as content. You guys pocket the cash AS WELL AS continue to help out around here. It will give you incentive to write good tutorials as well increase activity 'round these parts. But before you guys start anything, I'm going to need to clear this with some others.
You guys will pocket most of the cash with an undecided amount going the site. I think this is fair.

I can be in charge of selling the guides to whoever may want them. I'll collect the cash via paypal and distribute them to the User Eds. You ONLY get paid for the guides YOU wrote that have been sold. The more and better guides you write, the more chance of you making some cash. You will be paid at the end of the month for all the guides that have been sold.
I haven't decided whether we should sell the guides as resell (the buyer gets FULL rights to the tutorial and we'd have to remove it from sythe.org. This means the buyer effectivey has control over what happens to that tutorial. He/she can resell it or do whatever they want with it.) or as post-only (The buy can only post this on his/her website and nowhere else).
Naturally going resell can make you more money, but we'd have to then remove the guide from sythe.

If we were to agree on this and then a price for each guide, I could potentially put every guide we have posted up for sale. I will most likely sell them on a site called DigitalPoint. It's a great internet marketing forum and I have a somewhat known rep on it.

Tell me what you guys think. If we all agree, we need to decide on a price for each guide, how we plan to sell it (resell etc.) and some other stuff.
Remember that if this goes through you STILL have to help around this site, and all guides go to the User Education Forums before being sold anywhere.

What do you think?

 

good good. Guides sold according to what kind of guides they are? Tech guides for more, general guides for less?
OOh, and what if we had someone with a video camera to do those everyday guides? They record them doing what the guide says, and then post them on metacafe? That would double the amount earned from one guide.
I like the idea of it going back into the site, I completely agree with that because Sythe needs it.. apparently..
In posting the guide, all rights are given to the "publisher" in that case it would be you. You then sell the guide, and ensure its productivity and demand, then you distribute the money to the User Educators.
Pay method is going to be difficult, so I think the best way would be by mail?
If we find that it's quite productive
And I think variating ranks are in order? Like for the User Educator who takes care of publisher, tu, since you're HUE decide, but maybe gold coins on the side, and the normal scroll in the middle.
And contrasting for other said ranks

 

Paypal is the only method for payment.
We will decide on pricing guides if this goes through. A lot of the time tutorials are such are priced based on wordlength. However if the individual author of the guide wants to set a fixed price, that can be arranged.
For video guides, we rarely have any of those but they could go on metacafe if you guys wanted.

 

Alright, hopefully this will turn out right, and we can get some more activity in here!

 

Eh. I might like this if I make an ultra-long Perl tutorial.

 

seems cool but, what guides would get paid for the most?

 

It really depends on what people are looking for. Most of the time, the general guides you guys posted won't count for squat. Programming, Computer hardware/software, SEO, and Internet related tutorials tend to attract people.

 

This is a very great idea. I'm sure it will make all of the user educators (including myself) more active and more willing to want to write guides. Only problem is I am horrible at programming Also theres the fact that one or two guides my have been leeched that slipped through the cracks(What if these are sold and found out afterwards that these guides were in fact leeched?) I highly doubt any are because we have Hax4you on our side

Edit: Also I think if we are going to be selling guides that you should allow us to make Photoshop related guides because the majority of the User Educators have a lot of experience with gfx. You should allow us to post them in private forums for sale, but not allow us to post them in the actual guides section. Another thing I believe since we are selling the re-sell rights we should not post any of our sold guides in the guides section and make a new private forum for guides that are waiting for you to sell

 

ya i like this idea, its a great incentive for guide writing! quick question though.

Would we get payed for every person that buys the guide, OR would we only get payed to put it up for sale? if that makes any sense at all...

 

I think its a great idea, you can have different prices for different categories of guides. Also you can have like guides of the month, most popular, etc etc

*EDIT*
After much consideration i remove my + for this idea

 

Good idea though im sure it wouldnt be helpfull for lots of people because not everyone know computer/internet, or programing.

 

All areas are covered on this, so I'll go through and answer your questions...

Sex, ALL guides will be made PRIVATE. No sythe user will be allowed to view them, EXCEPT for permissioned User Educators. The only thing in the User Educator section that would be viewable would be Guide Applications, and questions. As far as sythe is concerened, that is ALL that they are allowed to see. Everything else is sold accordingly.

Purenoxy, you would be paid according to your contribution for that month according how much your guide makes. If that makes sense. I think Unknown and I have different pay Ideas.. I think that all the money should be put into a pot, and then distributed equally to all user educators, some would get more than others if they write more better quality guides. It'd be like a company. I think Unknown's idea for pay would be according to what your guide gets... I don't like that because it makes those who can't write the better guides less involved. Every person of a company gets paid, some less than others, but they are paid according to the popularity of the product and the demand and supply.

TMM, yes, lots can come from this, different ranks, different ideas, Guides of the Month, LOTS can develop from this.


Conman, if you read further up I said something about video guides. In fact, these are the guides that would sell for the most. If you go to Metacafe.com, you'll see that people are paid to how many views their video gets. We would have one user educator have the job of making the general guides (Ie. Bomb making, fishing, pant cutting, dog grooming, bike care, etc.) into good movies. The money made from guide sales would pay for the equipment and such. Then a percentage of what is earned would go back into the pot.

 

Thanks for clearing that up for me Deacon, just one last thing you may not be able to answer this but what about photoshop tutorials, they bring in a lot of money and a lot of user educators know how to work photoshop. I like the idea of the "company" also the ranks, guides of the month, pretty much everything you said

 

I believe all guides should be allowed to covery every basis, and get as much money in as possible. Since it's not for sythe users, just the Sythe user educators, then everything should be allowed.

 

Thats what I was thinking, great idea this could potentially help a lot of people both way, we make money and they get good quality guides

 

Good idea, but I don't like the part about selling the right to resell to the buyer. Other than that, it's a very good idea.

 

^ agreed.

Hey Unknown, add a poll...?

 

I'd only have one problem with this, not all of us can actually get paypal (I have tried but i couldn't do that bank verify crap) so would it be possible that if my guides got sold or anyone else without paypal that the money received from that goes directly to sythe.org as a donation? But other then that this is an EXCELLENT idea!

Oh and If we could have the option so that when we sell them the bueyr has full rights but on the condition the creator is still allowed to have it on sythe.org

 

I don't get it...someone explain how this will help user ed? There are not THAT many guides at the moment and if you are selling them..then people won't want to post them.

See what i mean? ^^

User education's point is to help people. How can people be helped when normal users can't see the guides?

Correct me if im wrong.

To be honest i think Unknown will get tired of sorting out all the money, people will get lazy...again and it will fail.

By all means give it a go, but im gonna see the sort of price they give on the site Unknown sugested.

 

wow, well i wouldnt mind making cash to post tutorials

but ye, like wow_sucks said.. the guides made need to be public for everyone to view..

so ye, i dont see how this will work:S