Twinz casino scam/fraud

Scammer's profile link:
- Twinz:
Goldwyn
Sam Michael Goodwin
-Swipe/spobby/amex/...
elektriq

Amount scammed:
- 5bill 07 from rank deposit and about 4bill from stakehouse, unknown amount from others

Discord ID + Unique Discord ID:
- Twinz#9999 - 959563184883257355
- Twinz#5158 - 456226577798135808 (deleted)
- 5wipe#0954 - 865982548064468993
- Swipe#???? - 374541801773727745 (deleted)
- spobby#4444 - 149552590026309641 (one of swipes alts this is actually his main account)
- AMEX#3013

Proof that it's their Discord:
imgur.com

Explanation of the trade:
First payed a deposit to Twinz#5158 in oktober/november 2021. they never said anything about the fact i wouldnt get it back after i would quit as i never had to accept any TOS that states that or anything else regarding any rules. The rest of the deposits where made over the course of the time being there.
How they scammed:
1. They never knowledged me that the deposit made was meant as a payment instead of being a normal deposit. There are people that never even needed to deposit for their ranks what also makes me think that i wouldve gotten everything back. I have never been given any form of TOS i had to accept which they actually should have.
When i asked questions i never get a response if it was about certain thing like this
Also certain people never had to pay for their ranks while others have this in my eyes means that a rank isnt bought but Hired with a deposit you can get back


2. They always kept telling me that this is proffitable position because of the house edge, and ofcourse that sounds logical. I joined because i really could use the money and at the start i saw some money from it, but mostly from gambling inside their server.
I even won the lottery once, they had a limit on how many tickets a host could buy but they told us to use alts to join the lottery to buy more tickets than the limit.
The money i won went back to them cause they encouraged me to use it for ranking up.
From that moment on everything was going downhill, everytime i put money in the so called housepots and stakehousepots it just dissapeared within 1 day no matter how much i put in.
This happened mostly because of swipe using multiple alts to bet in high amounts.
This was to clear any hosts with lower amount of gp in the houses like me since the higher ranked hosts had several bills in the pots sometimes over 10b.
They have a somewhat clever method that lower ranks only get included in these pots if the amount thats being bet is under X amount or chest. so betting under this amounts takes gp from all hosts and bet over the amount and lose it gets shared to high ranked hosts only.
This is also done in stakehouse by betting on themselves with their alts.
Not only this is happening but there is this Daily Jackpot game where everyone can put any amount in and you have a certain % chance depending on the amount put in.
As you can see in the screenshots They are telling hosts to 'go nasty' in daily jackpot and this happens almost daily. no normal players make a decent chance like you can see in the pictures.
The weekly leaderboard is 90% hosts or alts since it has rewards for the top wagers and certain other things but if they are using multiple alts the leaderboard is rigged because they have an unlimited supply of tokens. they can just take them from the giveaway balance even if its already negative balance.
They are constantly complaining about some players using multiple alts because of the level based rewards they have to give out over and over again but then when i confronted them they are saying that alts are allowed and keep using the fact i had an alt aswel.
i started using an alt because of the fact they kept telling us to but i never even reached over diamond rank with it because i just played with my normal account.
The code from the bot has been checked by xKyleee in the past but there wasnt anything weird about it but who says that its the original bot?
There is something going on because there have been weird things going on like lag spikes out of nowhere when you bet a big amount and they started to occur after the game 'hi-lo' was implemented.
They have been dealing with this player using multiple alts and scamming bankers and so on but they keep him in the server because he sometimes still payed for credit.
This really show how theyre branded on gaining money or having active players.
Redwine has been banned together with Boooom and Travellingman for fake staking but boooom and travelling man are still in the server. Redwine got banned because he was onto something like me, and i got banned aswell.
Every time i found a decent way to make some money from the casino a few days later it always got changed so i wouldnt make money anymore.
Feel free to contact me if you want me to screenshare certain stuff.
Their server got deleted twice but iim starting to think they got it deleted on purpose to cover any tracks they had

Other relevant trade screenshots:
Check deleted comment

 

CASINO ROYALE - HUGE 4000M 07 SCAM - Requesting authorisation to chargeback!
what happened at twinz casino is imho pretty similar to this one but an upgraded version

 

Given that I am mentioned in this report.

i was contact by another sythe member asking “I want to ask something, I am looking into something, got some evidence that someone is rigging a discord bot etc.
I have the zip-file of that, but can’t really read anything. I wanted to ask if you have some time to take a quick look into it if you find something fishy in the code”

i was then provided twinz-bot-main-1.zip

upon checking over the code, there is nothing suspicious or anything to suggest rigging the outcome or providing a severe house edge under certain circumstances.

i had also shared this with another hydra tech member, to ask them to check everything and confirm what I see and they concluded the same.

whilst my evidence concluded nothing untowards is going on, there are a few things I want to point out

1) I was given a “leaked” copy of the bot - there is nothing to say that this is the bot that is being used.

2) The bot provided could have been tampered with and code removed before being leaked.

3) I cannot confirm if the bot was also the bot being used in live.

4) The bot provided to me is now outdated and isn’t the current bot.

the only way you will ever know for sure would be to have someone connect to twinz’s vps and check the code which is currently running, however, as stated above in the version of the bot I had received there was no tampering or any “rigging”.

If mods/admins need anything from me, feel free to let me know.

 

Given there’s actually no proof what so ever I don’t know why this report has been posted.

On the other hand seen as this report has been filed I have ACTUAL evidence that @Geluk has scammed 2b from me.

On top of that, if our bot was tampered with / set up for rigging we would’ve already been caught in the leaked file that one of the ex OSMB admins leaked that ANYONE can view.

I’m out right now and can’t post any videos that I have because I have no access to a pc, sorry for any inconveniences.

 

i guess you are talking about the loan of 1bill i got from you to put in the pot that disappeared within a day to swipe his balance?
and you really think i dont have any proof ? i couldve made all 70 screenshot also available publicly but i didnt because then you guys would make some more play and pretend to take screenshots from together with t1ck and his alts. tbh i havent even included every proof i have because i figured this was already enough.

 

no, there’s that (what you’ve just admitted to owing) and messages directly to alibabas.

I have YOUR discord ID on VIDEO proving the allegations.

 

yea that conversation is about what i just mentioned and you can take it of the 9 bill you owe me - banker balance and botloan that i had when you banned me.
I never scammed you anything because i talked open about it in discord dms but you never asked it back.

 

invalid comment. + no evidence to back your claim up.

 

if thats what you THINK. you can just simply not play.

 

lucky admitting to scamming to Alibabas (VIDEO 1)
Screenshot - a67054d03da2bab389191540f9a21bff - Gyazo


imgur.com (VIDEO 2)

Screenshot - 65cd17ddffe43f1885dc7c94b6ce91fa - Gyazo

Screenshot - 1618dc3970671b4ba7aa8bb2354a8943 - Gyazo



Lucky deletes evidence (VIDEO 3)

Screenshot - b0c6b2c8b782c7810f7c814e49f143cb - Gyazo


If any moderators need the original videos in higher definition contact me via Twinz#9999.

Just to add to this, there's leaked code out there that xKylee mentions he went over & if any moderators want to go over that its out there already, if we wasn't being legitimate we'd have got caught out right there, we never would purposely leak a bot.

On top of the above comment if any admins want to check our current code contact me via Twinz#9999 and we can arrange that.

 

"They always kept telling me that this is profitable position because of the house edge"
factual, this can be proved from the leaked bot.

"I joined because I really could use the money and at the start i saw some money from it, but mostly from gambling inside their server."
you say it's rigged and a scam, but you admit you won GP in the server with this comment? you also won the lottery like you admitted to below, the sum was 5b 07.

"From that moment on everything was going downhill, every time i put money in the so called housepots and stakehousepots it just disappeared within 1 day no matter how much i put in."
invalid statement, you have the same rank as watchadoin. it's down to you to join the housepots Screenshot - 098671175c9aac82e218d9dec756dc1a - Gyazo

"They have a somewhat clever method that lower ranks only get included in these pots if the amount that's being bet is under X amount or chest. so betting under this amounts takes gp from all hosts and bet over the amount and lose it gets shared to high ranked hosts only."
Screenshot - e2b273e1e891b83cbae9c496c45a8b78 - Gyazo invalid statement. as you can see the higher ranks didn't profit as much as the lower ranks this week, higher ranks being myself a lower rank being xClarkee (xClarkee has the same rank as you)

"Not only this is happening but there is this Daily Jackpot game where everyone can put any amount in and you have a certain % chance depending on the amount put in."
shouldn't really have to explain how odds works, but the more money you enter into the daily jackpot = the higher % win chance, that's actually capped at 40%.

"They have been dealing with this player using multiple alts and scamming bankers and so on but they keep him in the server because he sometimes still payed for credit."
he had a rank, he scammed the banker balance (banker balance is when a player trades one of our bankers and receives server credit) then he got his rank removed for that. he owes us well in excess of 8b. what do you suggest we do? kick him and his alts and get 0 of our GP back or let him play and eventually with 96/97% house edge regain the GP we lost. There's NO way of him scamming anyone using our server as a platform as he's not longer ranked.

"This really show how they're branded on gaining money or having active players.
Redwine has been banned together with Boooom and Travellingman for fake staking but boooom and travelling man are still in the server. Redwine got banned because he was onto something like me, and i got banned as well."
Redwine HAD a rank and he scammed, therefore he had to be banned. travellingman and booom can't use our server as a platform to scam so therefore it's unnecessary to ban them.


"The weekly leaderboard is 90% hosts or alts since it has rewards for the top wagers and certain other things but if they are using multiple alts the leaderboard is rigged because they have an unlimited supply of tokens. they can just take them from the giveaway balance even if its already negative balance."

Screenshot - c89a6054ebeb54d38cf4f598c8409765 - Gyazo for this weeks leaderboard.
echo#7144 = rank
T1CK#6105 = bettor
Ice#9519 = rank
Erase#7946 = bettor
Shinra#8034 = bettor
blaser#2279 = bettor
Luke RS#9749 = rank
Btreece#5627 = bettor
devour mind#8760 = rank
._.#6126 = Ice#9519 alt
Toxile#6334 = bettor
5150me#6293 = bettor
dropyou420#7222 = bettor

Feel free to contact them via discord.

Just to clarify, just because you're ranked doesn't mean you're not a bettor, I'm just clarifying the 90% hosts or alts comment as its complete speculation. Ranks can't access the giveaway balance, the giveaway balance is for the weekly leaderboard, daily chests, refer a friend and general giveaways. so that statement is invalidated as well. You know this yourself as an ex rank, allowing access to the giveaway bot would completely mess up the servers eco system. Also the odds don't change whether you're ranked or not, this can be backed up by the leaked bot.

 

Can xKylee's commend be added back please as it was highly relevant to the report, skrankskeee mentioned him directly.

 

Why is all twinz his proof from just the past weeks and not from a month ago?
I also can provide a lot of extra screenshots that contradict more than half of his statements. (if the mods would like this let me know)
Why dont you show the all the leaderboards from the start of this server?
The list provided i know is not correct cause shinra iis an alt and blaser too as well as toxile, devour mind and dropyou.
on the scam from t1ck you could just have made a report on him since i also have proof on him that he can scam and has scammed.
daily jackpot capped at 40% could be but thats easily ignored by the use of alts like you have been doing.
the leaked bot isnt a viable proof cause its outdated and by now you have already changed to bots code.
i did win the lottery but normally its handdrawn and that time suddenly the bot drawed so who says this wasnr rigged aswel ?
and how many times did watchadoin been complaining in rank chat that he just keeps losing money at the pots and that shits rigged ? also more than enough.
The fact that you keep editing you posts and are posting post after post shows that you are doing your best not to say anything wrong here and it get hard to do if your proof is based on lies.
The comment from xkylee isnt speaking in your favor either imho.

I think that you are starting to look desperate twinz, even the likes on your posts are all from your friends which makes me like 85% sure you have asked them to like it.
and i love how elektriq isnt even saying anything just watching, cmon swipe lost your tongue ? you can always explain it so smooth in dms if you want but if you dont knwo what to say you (like now)just wait and watch.
you even have been trying to infiltrate my server as workers with your alts and block me the moment i asked foor proof of identity.

 

I didn't respond because you didn't really say anything meaningful that twinz had not already replied to, also I don't really have any rep on sythe my word doesn't really mean anything I can call you on discord it's much easier than having back and forth conversation.

But i can still respond to everything applicable you said there.

>Why is all twinz his proof from just the past weeks and not from a month ago?
What proof do you want? Here is the first weekly which was two months ago summary https://i.imgur.com/51XeZTk.png There are random screenshots I have of older weekly summaries, but they don't really mean much in isolation.
https://i.imgur.com/Tr9HpC5.png https://i.imgur.com/j2SrJ0L.png

>I also can provide a lot of extra screenshots that contradict more than half of his statements. (if the mods would like this let me know)
N/A

>Why don't you show the all(sic) the leaderboards from the start of this server?
here are the first two weeks https://i.imgur.com/hk1z1JX.png


>The list provided i know is not correct cause shinra iis an alt and blaser too as well as toxile, devour mind and dropyou.

Wrong, shinra is a friend of 420brexits, blaser is erases friend, toxile is not an alt,, devour mind is not an alt and he actually purchased a rank recently, and drop you is not an alt either. You can talk to them on discord if you want.

>on the scam from t1ck you could just have made a report on him since i also have proof on him that he can scam and has scammed.
That would be pointless t1ck has no reputation no one cares if he scammed. He did scam multiple people yes which is why he lost his rank, he even admits this as a mistake.

>daily jackpot capped at 40% could be but thats easily ignored by the use of alts like you have been doing.
Equivalent Fractions
There's no advantage to going over 40% your risking more money for a bigger risk. It's capped for the sake of the bettor so they don't actually win the jackpot and then lose money. The reason is that with some jackpot combinations the lowest possible reward is in the low 40s. Were going to add a toggleable option in the future with a warning that lets you go up to 80%. Not added in yet, but it will just warn them of the potential to win the jackpot and then lose by getting a bad 3rd age item.

>the leaked bot isnt a viable proof cause its outdated and by now you have already changed to bots code.
Yeah the leaked bot isn't really much proof of anything.

>i did win the lottery but normally its handdrawn and that time suddenly the bot drawed so who says this wasnr rigged aswel ?

The lottery was supposed to be handrawn but because we restarted the bot to add in a lottery update that included more minor payouts for smaller ticket matches. The time for the lottery had already passed so there was a bug in the bot where it autodrew it (autodraw was toggled off for the live draw). It was quite anti-climatic as it was our biggest lottery ever and OSMB invited a bunch of people over to the server to see the live draw, but instead the bot chose the numbers.
Also, I'm not sure why you think why I would rig the lottery and then let you win. You won the whole jackpot solo and 5b 07 on your alt account that you could do anything you wanted with. I didn't even know it was your alternative account that won it until twinz told me after.

>and how many times did watchadoin been complaining in rank chat that he just keeps losing money at the pots and that shits rigged ? also more than enough.
Not really a meaningful statement, he just gets upset when he loses. He doesn't think its rigged just rages sometimes. You can ask him.

>The fact that you keep editing you posts and are posting post after post shows that you are doing your best not to say anything wrong here and it get hard to do if your proof is based on lies.
N/A

>The comment from xkylee isnt speaking in your favor either imho.
The leaked bot isn't much proof of anything as kylee said

>I think that you are starting to look desperate twinz, even the likes on your posts are all from your friends which makes me like 85% sure you have asked them to like it.
N/A

>and i love how elektriq isnt even saying anything just watching, cmon swipe lost your tongue ? you can always explain it so smooth in dms if you want but if you dont knwo what to say you (like now)just wait and watch.
See my first sentence

>you even have been trying to infiltrate my server as workers with your alts and block me the moment i asked foor proof of identity.
Nope, I haven't done that.

 

seem as you deleted your response, for whatever reason and were casting aspsersions earlier that twinz editing his posts to be more accurate was somehow nefarious ill repost it and respond to it for you


i want to mention they also used the normal players to scam money from lower ranked hosts by their system.
Like in the report i mentioned that lower ranks get only included until x amount bets when in housepots.
But like everyone knows (i didnt know at the start since i never gambled before) that when people start betting small and are winning they raise their bets too.
so they start taking money from lower ranked hosts like me and when they have a high amount of money they start losing it so it got shared over the higher ranks like you see in the screenshots provided in the first deleted post
also i have some screenshots here about payouts from just before i got banned and as you can see yourself only the high ranked hosts and their irl friends and alts are payed decently.
In here youll find some more screenshots i acquired from whatchadoin and our dms.
Swipe / @elektriq said he doesnt think its rigged, but he does think that it is. he lost so much money just like me in housepots but at the start he never had. thats because swipe never played like he did in the first screenshots i provided.


Quite a jumbled mess to respond to but i'll do my best. I can just talk to you on discord if you want. You're making a lot of statements as if you don't know how it works which is quite annoying as it's pretty open to how stuff works.



>i want to mention they also used the normal players to scam money from lower ranked hosts by their system.


What do you mean by this? If you are implying it's somehow rigged so small bets win and big bets lose then you're just wrong. The biggest bet in the server (12.5b) which was a win was only taken on by the biggest hosts. They lost tons of money that week about 2b each if i remember. There have been multiple weeks where lower ranks made more than higher weeks. In the long run, due to house edge, higher ranks make more yes, but this is obvious.
https://i.imgur.com/9y84JKF.png
Here is an example where lower ranks made more.

>Like in the report i mentioned that lower ranks get only included until x amount bets when in housepots.
Yes.

>But like everyone knows (i didnt know at the start since i never gambled before) that when people start betting small and are winning they raise their bets too. so they start taking money from lower ranked hosts like me and when they have a high amount of money they start losing it so it got shared over the higher ranks like you see in the screenshots provided in the first deleted post

This is a bit of a nonsensical point. You can bet small and lose. You can bet big and win. Also using "small" here is a bit misleading your rank was included in bets 750m and below + barrows chests and under. Most people don't bet that much in single bets.

>also i have some screenshots here about payouts from just before i got banned and as you can see yourself only the high ranked hosts and their irl friends and alts are payed decently.
It's pure math split between every host . If your not in the houses/sh then your not in the cut. Or if you gamble and lose (you don't play against yourself) then your profits are lower. But you already know this. Are you implying its somehow manually controlled where the money goes? It's simple math.
Division

>Swipe / @elektriq said he doesnt think its rigged, but he does think that it is. he lost so much money just like me in housepots but at the start he never had. thats because swipe never played like he did in the first screenshots i provided.

Too incomprehensible to respond to, contradiction in the first statement, and then followings statements that I can't decipher.

>imgur.com
What's the fuck is first screenshot meant to show? I really didn't think you where being disingenuous until now but now I really do. I don't accuse people of lying outright lightly so you are either lying or incredibly incompetent. The screenshot was a cropped section of job payouts (that had 13 payouts/11 names with the top 2 names cropped to make it seem like echo got paid the most). You are acting like you don't know what job payouts are?
Did you write this drunk? Here is the full screenshot
https://i.imgur.com/fGYAZdL.png
As you can see redwine got paid the most as he did the most stakes. Echo got paid 95m as he did 166 stakes. The fact you tried to pass this off as some weekly house payout is unforgivable and drastically lowers my opinion of you.

The second and 3rd screenshot simply shows me winning big amounts. That's what happens when you gamble big, you sometimes win big amounts and lose big amounts. Here's a video of a losing streak on chests.
https://gfycat.com/InfantileAggravatingJellyfish
losing 5b
https://i.imgur.com/Yp1vLrE.png

The fourth screenshot i'm not sure what the point is as there is no caption

The fifth screenshot is us just laughing at you

The sixth one is how much money people in have in houses, that's their own choice how much they put in, again not sure what the point is.

The final three screenshots are just a conversation with watchadoin talking about how you think its rigged it reads like many reviews for gambling sites of delusional people with fanifcal stories. Some people just cannot accept that is pure RNG. There's no method with new accounts winning or anything like that. Or some some sort of secret hilo method to make money. Loan limits were halved because hosts were using it to gamble loads and then feeling negative. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. That's it.

It's really annoying to waste so much time correcting information that you already know is true. Given your deliberate attempt, at misdirection with the aforementioned cropped screenshot, I won't be responding at length again unless you post something worthwhile.

You have still yet to reply to my previous response.

 

bump

 

What's wrong, cat got your tongue?

You were so desperate from a reply from me but have yet to reply to anything I said.

You didn't reply to anything or said or anything twinz said about the screenshot that showed you admitted to scamming.

 

Already posted proof of payment of that before. I baited him by saying that to see if he was trustworthy fyi

 

still waiting for replies for the previous 2 posts.