Trumps proposal for Temp Muslim Ban

Sometimes I wonder if you're trolling, but then I remember you always use poor mental gymnastics to avoid directly answering a simple question.

Let's break down how your responses have been.

Me: How does Trump's proposal affect the Orlando Mass shooting?

You: If Trump's proposal was active, Omar's parents wouldn't have been able to immigrate, thus the mass shooting being negated.

Me: But they immigrated 30 years ago and Trump's proposal is not a permanent one, so how exactly would this prevent them from immigrating over that period of time?

You: There is no reason why the proposal should be temporary.

Me: Well.. What you think has nothing to do with the argument of Trump's proposal having any relevance to the Orlando mass shooting.

You: His parents are dangerous people, Islam is bad.. Blah blah blah

Me: Well.. You still haven't answered the question.

Then you begin to reiterate your last two answers hoping for a different outcome. It's honestly a head scratcher.

 

Trump holds no office and has no ability to implement any proposals. The Islamic State could shoot and bomb Americans every single day from now until Trump took office and implemented such a ban, Trump's temporary Muslim ban would stop zero of them, because it doesn't exist.

The point of not allowing Muslims to enter the United States is to prevent FUTURE ATTACKS BY THEM AND THEIR CHILDREN, not bring back 50 people from the grave. Allowing violent Muslims to enter the United States caused the death of those 50 people, banning Muslims won't bring them back, it will help prevent MORE bodies from piling on top of the 100 million Islam has already claimed.

I know that I'm a genius, but you say this is "Honestly a head scratcher"? I can't relate.

 

Again, you're avoiding the question and changing your argument entirely. This isn't something you're doing subconsciously. I'll continue to ask this question until I get a direct answer.

How does Trump's proposal affect the Orlando Mass shooting?

 

Trump holds no office and has no ability to implement any proposals. The Islamic State could shoot and bomb Americans every single day from now until Trump took office and implemented such a ban, Trump's temporary Muslim ban would stop zero of them, because it doesn't exist.

Events that occur in the future don't change the past. You should be embarassed that I have to explain that to you.

 

You're contradicting yourself in an attempt to backpedal your argument.

 

Where did I contradict myself? All statements I've provided are true and valid, and I've proven it to you.

 

Your argument was that his parents wouldn't have been able to immigrate under Trump's proposal. Now you're saying future events wouldn't change the past, meaning Trump's proposal has no relevance to the Orlando shooting. Do I have to hold your hand throughout this whole thing?

 

Does Trump's proposal exist?

 

You should consider not debating anymore.

Proposal - a plan or suggestion, especially a formal or written one, put forward for consideration or discussion by others.

Technically the proposal does exist, yes.

 

Okay, define it for me.

 

You got to be kidding me. Can you stop with the red herring? Focus on your initial argument.

 

So you always debate with undefined terms?

I'm waiting for you to say "Donald Trump's Proposal is to Ban Muslims from Entering the United States".

You have been bluffing for pages, asking "How would Trump's Proposal to stop violent Muslims coming from foreign countries to the United States have stopped violent Muslims from killing people in the United States???"

It is a self defeating question, yet you keep asking.

 

You mentioned the Orlando mass shooting on this thread as if it was relevant or as if this thread is some blog post where you post current events. I asked for the relevance between the two and you gave me this.



You've been backpedaling for the past two pages now.

You said:

So what is the relevance between the two now? If there is none, as it seems that is the direction you're going towards now, isn't that post considered spam?

 

A Muslim pledges allegiance to Islamic State, wastes 50 gays in the name of Allah in the United States. That is strictly relevant to this:

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Violent Muslim attacks outside of the United States are also relevant, and I've posted sources for those as well. Any time Muslims commit atrocities like murder against non-believers who won't convert, beheadings and more unthinkable acts that pose great harm to Americans, and women, it is strictly relevant whether it happens in the United States, Brussels, Paris, London, Germany, or anywhere else.

 

He's an American Citizen, not an immigrant. Must I continue to reiterate this? At least read what you're posting.

 

This is exactly the reason why Trump would want to ban Muslims from becoming American Citizens. He states it clearly: "25% of those polled agreed that violence against Americans here in the United States is justified as a part of the global jihad"

When one of those 25% of American Muslims commits violence against Americans as a part of the global jihad, it further reinforces the need to prevent these violent people from becoming American Citizens.

 

Again, this isn't your argument, nor is it relevant to the thread itself or your previous post.

What is the relevance between the Orlando shooting and this thread? Are you going to concede or are you going to continue using poor mental gymnastics at an attempt to avoid answering a simple question?

 

The Orlando massacre was committed by one of the 25% of American Muslims who agreed that violence against Americans here in the United States is justified as a part of the global jihad.

 

1. What does that have to do with Trump's proposal to temporarily ban Muslims from entering the U.S.? (Muslim Americans are in the U.S.)

2. That wasn't your argument, this was:



3. How is that relevant to your argument?

 

Trump wants to ban Muslims from entering the U.S. because Muslims commit violence against Americans.

"His parents are Taliban supporting Muslims who immigrated to the United States from Afghanistan. If Muslims could not immigrate to the United States, Omar would not have been born a US citizen" Is true and valid.

This was your response, remember?

You have not provided any argument against it.