Paypal Cases have a look please

This previous week, I have gotten 7 cases, and these are the following:

1. Unauthorised Dispute - $75
2. Unauthorised Dispute - $75 - same buyer as the first
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3. Inquiry by paypal -
4. Inquiry by paypal -
5. Inquiry by paypal -
6. Inquiry by Paypal -
7. Item not receive Chargeback -

I understand that I have small chance of winning the Unauthorised dispute which was made by the buyer of 2 transactions however, the other 5 cases that I have left, what are the chances that they will give back my money?

right now am at negative balance of $619, first time it has happened

I know for a fact that paypal doesn't cover buyer nor the seller's protection when it comes to intangible goods but what do you guys think about this? will I get the money back except from the first 2 unauthorised claims?

Thanks,

Orcfornow

 

Most of the time the buyer wins the disputes. You can submit proof but PayPal doesn't like virtual item trades.

 

I know i just said that im hopeless about the unauthorised dispute but what you guys thin kabout the inquiry about paypal and the chargeback? i might call paypal tomorrow and ask them about the buyer protection when it comes intangible goods.

 

Best would be to call them an explain the whole situation, even if it's virtual goods, it's still your money...

 

Paypal does not support virtual goods so the chances you will get the money back is virtually impossible, pun not intended.

 

I am the seller, would paypal give it back to the buyer even though they dont protect buyers when they have bought intangible goods?

 

It's the other way around, actually. Paypal doesn't protect sellers of intangible goods, and put the buyers first.

 

So far I lost 2 disputes from unauthorized claims. $52 worth. I am bound to lose another $31. I will never use paypal again for an transaction besides from a highly trusted member. I will now only deal with RSGold as my currently and to sell it, I will use playerauctions. I don't mind losing $4-5 a trade if it means I won't get scammed.


EDIT: and btw the dispute that is still going on right now....I told the guy to put the E-mail in which he talked to me from, [email protected] in the Note of paypal. I also screenshotted the trade in RS and screenshotted the chat logs.


Would this be enough to win over the money?

 

Even if you have proof like this, Paypal turns a blind eye to dispute like this. Unauthorized disputes for virtual goods always means the buyer gets his/her money back. Is the MSN email you were talking to the buyer with the same as the Paypal email?

:S

 

what about my other 5 case? which are just inquiry by paypal? will I win if I tell them that paypal doesnt protect buyers for intangible goods? because as you can see its not of unauthorised claims...

one is chargeback item not receive and the other 4 is inquiry by paypal?

what you guys think?

 

Nonononon . I guarantee you those inquiry's will turn into unauthorized claims. I had to send my part of the dispute to payment when they were inquiry's and the next day it turned into unauthorized claim, and I had to write my dispute all over again

 

what about my chargeback item not received? you think I have a chance of winning in that if I tell paypal that it says intangible goods is not for buyer's protection. what do u think?

 

Slim chance on winning. I don't deal with this shits anymore. It's just a pain to get chargeback. Just use PlayerAuctions. You will lose 4-5$ not the whole amount, and it's 100% safer. PayPal itself isn't safe at all.

 

0% chance of winning

but lets focus on the real topic at hand here being your negative $600 balance.

you need to restore it asap or else they will sell your debt to a financial organization that will harrass your house daily with phone calls until its paid.

the system always works in favor of the criminals

 

Unfortunately you are very unlikely to win the dispute. Paypal is becoming a less used method of trading because now it is almost common knowledge to teenagers on how to commit fraud using Paypal. However, what is even worse is that they are almost always in favor of the person making the dispute.

Don't feel too bad though, there is always a very slight chance that you may win the dispute. If you have taken pictures of conversations, and the actual ingame trading and other important info then there is still a possibility that they may go in favor of you. Also be sure to continuously call them and stay determined.

Good luck and if it doesn't turn out well, consider it a learning experience.

 

Contract is considered void when what one or both parties are contracting for is considered illegal. Doubt you'll see the money given back.

 

im currently calling them now

 

Let us know how it goes so we can have more reference for future events.

 

I actually was in the same predicament as you with the negative balance, granted it wasn't as much, £50 only.

However, although Paypal did hassle me with their various debt collection agencies, I told them that they could fuck right off in every way possible, phone, post, email etc.

So if you need help with that part, you can message me (if it gets to that part)

Thanks

 

I wouldn't suggest doing that unless you don't mind having terrible credit..
meaning you will never get a home loan, a car loan, a rent loan, probably not even a loan for a $3 bus ticket...