To all atheists

Ofc, but religion certainly stops some from being criminals.

 

Any proof to support this claim?

 

I'd like to see that too.

 

If it does its either because of fear of the punishment in the afterlife or the state of mind believing such thing is real, therefore he/she doesn't commit crimes but not due to the religion but the simple belief.

 

Obviously religion helps define morality in people without; though, it boxes people. Gives them a limit but introduces to the limitless. It's very paradoxical in the way it approaches people. Live and let live man. Bitching directs energy to go against the flow rather than redirect it to a new flow; one of harmony. Don't point shit out that's wrong, point out what you want and go for it.

 

This is deism, by definition an atheist does not believe in the existence of any gods.

The laws of humanity? Only four of the ten commandments have anything to do with morality, and even those are not any sort of advanced moral system; they are extremely general rules which are the basis for basically any legal system that has ever existed.

Let's look at some more.

Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.
Ex. 2:18

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Lev. 20:14

If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
Luk. 14:26

What abhorrent, immoral teachings from a book supposedly from the divine creator of the universe!

They are theories only in the sense that they are both human ideas; in truth, one is an accurate model of reality, and the other is an inaccurate model. If it can be reasonably demonstrated that there are no gods, then such action is justified. To put this in perspective, there are two types of people: those who believe in Santa's existence, and those who don't. Let's call the former view santistism, and the latter asantistism. Both views are "theories" in that they are differing models of reality, however only one view can be an accurate representation of what is actually in existence. For an asantist to "strut around acting as if they are the correct one" is obviously justified in the absence of evidence presented by the santist.

What a truly condescending view of humanity; I am so high and mighty and I am able to discern correctly that there are no gods, but the vast majority of people are stupid, immoral thieves who have nothing real to live for at all.

 

you totally said it. in short, religion slows down the progress of the human race.

this being said, however, i believe the abolishing of all religion would be bad (even though i cannot stand the idea of religion)...we would have to establish some other system of instilling morals into the youth of the world and find another way to cope with despair/feeling insignificant...i think the abolition of religion would inevitably cause the world to collapse into chaos

 

Religion is not needed to instill morals into children. A world without religion would be much more peaceful than it is today. To even come close to world peace, religion really needs to be abolished. So really, it would not cause chaos at all.

 

Agreed, religion does slow down humanity in some ways. Although religion does help some manage their emotions and doubts to go on with life with better morals than others.

Unfortunately many religions look down on each other simply because of the fact that they have different views, even the smallest difference can be changed from one religion and viewed as a wrong.

Of course its not needed. If you believe religion needs exist in order to teach future generations some morals, you are simply ignorant.

I wouldn't be so sure that removing religion would allow world peace. There would be conflicts of interests and power if no religion existed. Morals would greatly differ depending on family, government (Yes, government), location, etc. See what I mean?

 

If you look at the world today, more and more youth are becoming atheist. At the same time, many of them are having less and less morals. Kids are saying "fuck" in almost sentence when talking colloquially. Additionally, they are embracing drugs and sex; if not, then most are "wasting" their lives with video games like RuneScape, which have absolutely no reason except for the illusion that we form in our heads that this virtual life can numb the meaninglessness of real life. Religion represents innocence and the loss of religion really means the loss of innocence. This metamorphosis is bittersweet to me, but I don't really resist it since I am a Nihilist.

 

What is wrong with the word fuck? You deem it a horrible word well not you specifically. How is that having degraded morals due to religion not being present in their life?

More youth these days are opening their eyes and reading for themselves rather than accepting god is the biggest most loving person ever without looking further into such claims.

Sex doesn't hurt you or anyone else unless you enjoy such things. Drugs i do agree on that is certainly a waste of time if it's not for medical reasons. Wasting life is a matter of perspective my friend i can say you wasted your life posting on sythe..See how that works?

Provide proof religion represents innocence If it does i wonder what happened to my family and friends who are now drunks,murders,drug users ect.

 

From reading your post, you're saying atheism is connected to poor morality; in addition you're connecting it to people doing drugs, having sex more often,and cursing. Then you go into claiming they waste their lives by associating video games to an a complete escape from reality.

Your entire argument is flawed and has no support. Sex, cursing, and drug usage can be related to the media, family/friends, and other factors. You're simply saying atheism is the cause to all that.

Then you claim religion is innocence? That by itself is absurd, unless you have a different understanding of innocence. Many religions encourage violence and judgment as long as in the name of their God(s) and claim they do no wrong.

Cursing is also another way to show and release anger towards someone; which is a lot better than violence if you ask me.

Its true, more youth are actually beginning to think for themselves rather than being lured into a religion.

Sex isn't bad as long as its consensual and of course safe.

An exception to drugs I would say is marijuana;there's no wrong doing it for enjoyment as long as there's self-control.

 

I'm not saying all those things are bad, just that many people would not have sex before marriage or curse. Religion says many things are sins. Back in the day people would not do these things because they were scared that God would punish them and they would go to Hell, etc. But atheists have no divine thing to fear and do what they want. I'm not saying atheists are screwed up - most arn't - but that when you leave people to make their own choices some judge wrongly.

 

Isn't that what free will is? To make your own decisions whether they affect others negatively or positively is completely unrelated when we just speak of the subject itself.

So your saying it's better for us to have something to fear? Well I do fully believe that fear is the best motivation (obviously there can be some recourse if used excessively) but I don't see why in a Modern World where we can finally prove all of these phenomena that were once considered "divine" as just pure random acts by nature. It's not as much as people not believing as much anymore in a god it's that god's supposed "power" has dwindled to almost nothing.

 

So you say people believe in God but have less faith and him and therefore disobey them? I guess this sort of makes sense. It's like believing and preaching a political or moral doctrine that you do not adhere to yourself (Communism, good morals, etc.).

 

The same could be said for almost any time period in history. While strong religious beliefs may keep some from what society considers bad it really is not necessary. Sex is not immoral. It is not bad. Children need good parenting and a good life to avoid being utter morons as they grow up. I was raised in a lightly religious setting. I am 17 now and my parents let me drink. They do not care if my girlfriend stays over and we sit in my room with the door closed. They do not care if I smoke pot. I am an atheist and have essentially been given full freedom to do what I want and I honestly do not do much. So, moral of the story is that good parenting is much more important than religion in effecting who children become.

 

People don't have to believe in god, I myself find all these religious stories entertaining but nothing more than that.

Then your not disobeying him because well...you don't believe he exists, therefor your following as I stated free will.

 

I'm an agnostic, but I don't believe in god in the supernatural sense. I believe there could be a scientific force that tends the light at the end of the tunnel... but I don't know for sure - and I don't care to know.

It frustrates me to see so many people fall for the scam.

 

I'm not trying to push my believes onto anyone else. And my believes are that there are no "god". There is just forces like "ghosts" if you will.

If someone is preaching about god and shit I kindly ask them to tell me the stories about Donald Duck too since we're already on the imaginary subject

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion just as long as their not trying to force it to someone else.

 

Hm this seems kind of contradictory, if you were to say "god" didn't exist but forces of nature that comply to the randomness of the universe do than yes I'd understand the comparison and change. But to compare and qualify it to "ghosts"? Seems they can be one in the same.