Theoretical Question

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Theoretical Question
  1. Unread #1 - Sep 21, 2012 at 3:12 PM
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    Theoretical Question

    Let's just talk theoretically here.

    Completely hypothetical this situation

    A guy needs money to pay some bills. He robs a service station for $N. He also lies to a friend who had lent him money. He ignores his friends. After he pays the bills, he finds himself with some extra cash, so he decide to pay his friend back. About a month later, he has enough money to pay back the $N. He pays it back.

    Is he a thief?
     
  3. Unread #2 - Sep 21, 2012 at 3:21 PM
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    Theoretical Question

    Well, he stole money at point that wasn't rightfully his, so yes, he is a thief.
     
  5. Unread #3 - Sep 21, 2012 at 3:35 PM
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    Absolutely. It's the principle.
     
  7. Unread #4 - Sep 21, 2012 at 3:49 PM
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    Yeah, because with all of the title loan and paycheck advanced places now-a-days there is no need to hold up a store.
     
  9. Unread #5 - Sep 21, 2012 at 4:20 PM
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    Theoretical Question

    He took something that wasn't his originally = Thief
     
  11. Unread #6 - Sep 21, 2012 at 4:20 PM
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    He is still a thief, yeah.
     
  13. Unread #7 - Sep 21, 2012 at 7:55 PM
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    Also, not really significant, but having $100 now is more valuable than having $100 in a year. Money inflates, and you can also get interest rates, and it's at your disposal for emergencies/wise investments.
     
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    Theoretical Question

    Yes he is a thief.
     
  17. Unread #9 - Sep 21, 2012 at 8:17 PM
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    Theoretical Question

    If it involves "stole/steal" then yes he is a thief.
     
  19. Unread #10 - Sep 21, 2012 at 8:22 PM
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    Theoretical Question

    He did not come to an arrangement with the service station and he did not have their consent to take/borrow the cash until he was in a better financial position so therefore it is theft.
     
  21. Unread #11 - Sep 21, 2012 at 8:53 PM
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    completely a thief
     
  23. Unread #12 - Sep 21, 2012 at 9:41 PM
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    Theoretical Question

    A thief with morals is what this person appears to be.
     
  25. Unread #13 - Sep 21, 2012 at 10:10 PM
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    Legally, strictly speaking, he is criminally a theif still. Tortiously it is debatable.
     
  27. Unread #14 - Sep 21, 2012 at 10:12 PM
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    Theoretical Question

    But if he did it again (steal, make, pay back)
    What would become of his morals?

    O_O
     
  29. Unread #15 - Sep 22, 2012 at 1:08 AM
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    In my eyes, it doesn't amount for what amount or what reason - if he robs a service station he is considered a thief.
     
  31. Unread #16 - Sep 22, 2012 at 1:27 AM
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    Theoretical Question

    Ok should he be forgiven.
     
  33. Unread #17 - Sep 22, 2012 at 1:41 AM
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    I don't think he should be forgiven straight away. If he were caught and issued jail time or a fine etc though I feel it should be reduced considering his acts afterwards.
     
  35. Unread #18 - Sep 22, 2012 at 2:08 AM
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    It's situational. If he felt remorse for what he'd done, the amount stolen was small, and he was nonviolent during the commission of his crime, then sure. If, however, he stole a significant amount of money at gunpoint and repaid it only to avoid punishment, he should definitely be incarcerated.
     
  37. Unread #19 - Sep 22, 2012 at 2:29 AM
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    Of course because he stole it in the first place. I don't necessarily believe that doing something bad automatically makes you a bad person, depending on what you do of course. People make bad choices in desperate situations. I feel like anyone deserves a second chance as long as they feel remorse for the things they've done and learn from their mistakes. Giving it back would still be a dumb decision though, since he's going to be charged with a felony and end up doing jail time no matter what. I would just forget about it and don't do it again.
     
  39. Unread #20 - Sep 22, 2012 at 2:57 AM
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    Yes, he was just a good thief who didn't get caught.
     
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