The Official Combat Beta Thread

What are you pointing towards? I guess your not just talking about the bugs regarding the UI.

 

I must say I don't think it's amazing..>But I can live with it. It's basically like playing WoW.


Got dat rotation brah.

 

SO let me get this good. It is now useless to have 1 defence, because if you have 99 strength, you can have 98 defence and your combat level will be the same....

 

Im not happy about the update, but i think people are over-reacting this update wont ruin the game, tbh it looks kind of fun, im just concerned about overpowering certain abilities and such and that we wont be able to afk, but you can't hate it before you've tried it (the beta doesnt count ) and its coming either way if players like it or not, so might as well just learn to accept it. Also people are only focusing on the negative aspects of the update, there are bound to be positive experiences from the EoC update. But for now all we can do is wait.

 

Not a fan. Also, I wonder if they update will bring in some major bugs open for abuse. Perhaps when they release the update, there will be a major staking glitch or something.

 

this update is BS

No more 1 def pures, no more specs, now def noobs can actually be good at something?

this is nothing more then a money making move for jagex, now noobs can actually pk.

 

Sorry guys, Im high and I dont feel like reading the previous questions Can anyone give me a brief summary of whats up with the beta levels. Will it be hard to level combat stats? Whats gonna change exactly , 200 Combat level?

 

I do not support combat beta.

 

Why does everyone think 1 def pures are dead?
They will not die as a result of this update. Pures will continue to do what they do currently, fighting other pures. This will give them no advantage over the other, making it still even ground. Of course the occasional main will appear, this just means it'll be a slightly fairer fight than the pure destroying the main.

 

Hi when is the combat beta arriving?

 

Doesn't the combat work like this: Highest stat+ defence level+ 2?
If it's like dead, how are Pures dead...? 99 STR+ 1 DEF+ 2? So if people with defence are the same level, they would have lower stats.

 

It's already here, you can only participate if you have a combat beta contract I think.

 

I've posted a few times here already.

Yesterday I logged to beta and I couldn't stand to be playing that for more than a minute.

It's not runescape haha, too complicated. I know they say you can adapt to anything but meh, I think no one will ever adapt to this, at least players that love RS the way it is now.

It's just like any other normal game

 

I have mixed feeling's about this update, It makes combat alot more interactive, but it screwed up my zerker which I just maxed, which irritates me, as they aren't really as viable as I would like them to be.

 

Already have stopped playing.

2007-2012

 

I quit playing around a year ago. Just logged into my account to see whats up and saw that graphic update shitstorm as well at the combat beta.


One of the key elements of the game which kept me playing was nostalgia, which will be completely gone come next month

 

Pures will literally be able to 1 hit each other with the new abilities. It will be pointless to fight on a pure.

 

No, it's defense+highest combat skill+2


Pures won't be killed, it'll just be a new generation of pures.

 

Hi everyone, I've played the Beta quite a bit, and though I initially opposed the EOC, however, I have become in favor of it.. I feel as if a lot of the opposition is based on mis-interpretation, as well as unjustified notions.

I disagree with the notions that this system is overly comparable to other games like WoW, that it will destroy pures, or that it is too complicated. I was opposed at first, but after spending enough time in PVP on the Beta servers, I've gotten used to it and I'm actually pleased about it's implementation.. It will require more skill in pvp, make grinding or PVM more eventful, and for those long slayer trips or times where you don't want to button mash, there's a simple ultimate ability that just boosts your auto-attacks, so that you can just passively pop that every 60 seconds or so. Of course pures will be gone except for 1 defense maxed pures (The new combat level formula is highest combat stat + Defense + 2, making it impractical to leave anything un-maxed but defense, making maxed defense pures the definitive pure type, unless something like all stats 75 but defense or something becomes popular, only time will tell), but hey the dedication required will discourage a lot of casual / fail pures, and keep the combat interesting. I personally am looking forward to it and have begun training up a new pure for the EOC, whom I hope to max out (other than defense of course). I've had a good time playing the Beta, and plan to play it a lot this weekend to test out slayer, PVM and a lot of other areas of the game involving combat, more thoroughly.

Let's face it, Runescape changes all the time, we have to embrace the change and enjoy it's new direction. Just be thankful that the developers are open to major changes in the game engine and constantly show enough interest and initiative to improve upon the game and rework systems so that the game can progress and be better enjoyed by its players. I agree that IVP has implemented a lot of undesirable features.. I personally am quite against the SoF and SGS, but what can you do? It won't go away and at least it doesn't affect the game nearly as much as other game's in game-purchasing systems do.. just take confidence that they are implemented to add fun items and an enhanced enjoyment to those who choose to support Jagex's monetarily, without overly affecting those who choose not to. The truth is that it's just another example of the direction games are headed, but rather than fighting it and being bitter about it, just try to embrace it, understand why it exists, and enjoy the select benefits it does provide. I have issues with IVP as much as the next guy, but when you get right down to it, their funding greatly supports the game and it's just another chapter in Runescape, we are in the next generation of Runescape after all, it's not being called RS3 but it's really what is to come.

On the note of those who say "OH MY GOD, IT'S A WOW COPY", as a World of Warcraft player for 8 years the only thing Wow has in common with the EOC is the action bar, which is not a WoW original and has become commonplace in just about every MMO. There's a difference between copying and industry adaptation.. the reason Runescape was initially so limited and simple, was not because it's developers were minimalists, so much as they didn't have the means to improve the game to the dynamic levels they desired, it's been stated several times over the years that Jagex wanted to end up with a WASD movement RS game involving dynamic combat. Now that Jagex has improved in funding (IVP yes, but what can you do?), they've had the resources and the means to improve the game in ways they've wanted for some time.. Expect more major updates in the future.. that's what Runescape is good at, evolving and adapting over the years. That's what games have to do to survive years upon years. I think people that get this wrong idea about the EOC being a cheap WoW copy, need to look further. Companies and games do what works, just like just about every major FPS game has a similar control scheme, most MMOs now have action bars, they've found it's the most convenient way to implement an intensive, dynamic combat situation. Of course they weren't the first, but neither was WoW, wow started as Blizzard's Warcraft interpretation of Everquest, the most popular MMO at the time.. it has since died, as Wow will die in roughly 2014-2015 (Blizzard has other plans, named Project: TITAN). After Wow is gone, who knows what TITAN will become, but I've got hopes for Runescape's continued expansion and progression, and I will be there to follow it every step of the way, as I have done for the past several years.

End of the day things won't change, we must adapt to the changing game and try to revel in it's versatility while staying current with it's systems. For me, it's exciting, I understand other's concerns with it, I was there myself.. Upon the EOC's first announcement I was outraged, though after my initial rejection of the idea I came to enjoy the EOC. I happily await the EOC's implementation, and in the mean time work getting my pure ready, and enjoying the Beta servers

/endrant

I've compiled my general likes and dislike about the beta and the EOC in general, of course some things are bound to change so this is mostly my impressions of the Beta in its most current form.

My Likes:
-More skill involved
-Dynamic Combat
-Something new to learn
-More definitive differences between the sides of the combat triangle
-More fluid character animations and stances (2H on back is awesome! Not the mention a call-back to the old over-the-shoulder stance is also awesome for me!)
-Improvement upon existing abilities and armor (Stats re-worked and balanced into a much more manageable form, that can have proper balance across tiers, also basic elemental magic spells improved with more sensible rune costs)
-The ability to hide the action bar
-the ability to use the action bar for skilling and non-combat abilities
-The associated graphical updates: Faces and HANDS

My Dislikes:
-Button mashing
-A loss of relaxation involved with combat (Though the new Momentum ultimate-ability alleviates most of this)
-A dislike of some of the stats that have been chosen on tiers
-Being required to train on enemies your level *I've heard this is no longer the case?
-Having to press enter before chatting (hiding the combat bar does remove this which I do like)

Tl;dr: It's not a carbon copy of Wow, things have to change, pures are not dead (just the un-dedicated ones), and we all have to get over it and adapt. You might just enjoy it!

 

Well said, as myself i dont want the beta, you gotta realize its happening and move on. Ranting on about how much it sucks and all that isn't going to stop it, jagex didn't waste alot of money and time just to scrap another idea.