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    In call of duty are the storylines all linked or are they completely different stories?
     
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    The storylines are realistic historical fiction, meaning that they are based on times in history and could have been possible, but they are fictional.
    For example, Modern warfare 1 (and two?) were based on a war with Russia and the US, which never has occured directly.
     
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    Black ops ftw.
     
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    Why's that?
     
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    CoD black ops has shit multiplayer connection, it always says 'waiting for players' for like 5 minutes, so I need to quit game, and that ends up turning off my console and wasting alot of time.

    Never tried mw2 so I will probably buy n try.
     
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    Personally, i think black ops is a let down, because i mean its made by treyarch.... the people that made world at war. Now im not saying world at war is particularly awful, its just a bit.... weird i mean the guns in there are useless and most of the maps are just bleh, the only good thing about WaW i think is the zombies. Now on to black ops. I think its a let down because one, Getting "connection lost" every 2 games gets annoying. Two The "waiting for more players to balance team" when you obviously have the max amount of players. Three, its hard as Hell to get a double kill, now im not saying its impossible, its just that the ammount of bullets to kill the bastard is ridiculous, so when you kill one and theres another behind him... your pretty fucked. And finally Four: Can i please get a sniper thats accurate, yet a guaranteed one hit kill when you hit them in the chest? The only sniper that is guaranteed a one hit kill is the L9 (forgot the rest, its the 3rd sniper) But that thing is so unaccurate, you can have the scope right on the guys head, shoot, and still miss. Its ridiculous, some of you may say "Go back to MW2 if your complaining about snipers" but hey, thats what i think. Now black ops isnt so bad, the zombies are pretty damn fun, there hard but thats the fun, it takes a plan and its challenging, not like some of the older ones where you just had to camp in a corner.

    I'm done ranting now :)
     
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    While I agree that the connection problems are very serious, and are in it of themselves major problems, your missing a big point. The problems you mentioned about how many bullets it takes to kill someone and the sniper rifle are actually corrections to balence the call of duty series and provides to a better more experienced in skilled gaming experience.

    Now I do not mean to draw conclusion or offend you in anyway but this leads me to believe your an unexperienced player. Running around with an m16 with stopping power and killing someone in burst is rediculous, and feeds the less experienced community along with the one hit sniper rifles. You also mention running into two players and not being able to kill the second is a problem. I have no problem killing two players with a simple drop shot or simply fading into cover as I shoot my last bullets into the second player.

    Also to take into consideration, how do you think it would feel to be the second player who just got mowed down with his teammate to an overpowered assualt rifle. I believe the game itself is very balenced and very enjoyable to play unlike mw2. Mw2 struggled with balence issues. The noob tubes, m16, ACR, Tar 21, and ump45 dominated the mw2 scene proving themselves overpowered and made it impossible for other players to use other weapons fairly. In the blackops the commando and g11 are bother very good rifles, but are unlocked at a very late level and both have their disadvantages. The G11 being that it gets raped in close range, and the commando moves around quite a bit when shooting. In black ops I find myself using quite a wide range of guns and performing well with most. I don't feel the need to switch to a certain class when getting my ass kicked. Where as in Mw2 if someone else was running around with their overpowered assualt rifle, I would have to switch to a similar caliber weapon in order to compete.

    My last bit of reasoning between your points is your mentioning of the sniper rifles. I have achieved a one shot one kill on every single sniper rifle, trying to reason that 100% one hit one kill ratio is the needed terribly supports an unskilled brand of gamers. In Modern warfare(COD4) most sniper rifles took more than one shot except for the first one (I'm sorry I can't remember the name on this one?) which did ocassionaly take more than one shot. I myself prefered one shot one kill, so I played on hardcore.

    To sum everything up it seems like you want the magical amazing weapon that rapes all hell, but your forgetting one major point. The simple fact that if it existed everyone would use, and everyone would get raped by it. Your forgetting the consequence of having overpowered weapons. I find the less damage gameplay much more enjoyable, much more tactical, and requires much more skill and technique as a gamer.
     
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    I've played COD games since COD4, so im not unexperienced to say, and no i dont like to run around with an M16, id rather use a SMG with lightweight. As for the game being balanced..... Thats not the whole point of a FPs game, if it was all FPS games would be the same. Now you stated "the noob tubes, m16, ACR, Tar 21, and ump45 dominated the mw2 scene proving themselves overpowered and made it impossible for other players to use other weapons fairly." That is understandable, but what about the AK74u in black ops? thats the most overpowered/overused gun, The AK47, That is as accurate as a Commando but yet more powerful, The galil? Thats even more accurate, so making them all Overpowered, all guns in a FPS arent going to be the same. Im not asking for a magical raping weapon, im just asking for an accurate sniper. Some people like to snipe, Some people like to use Rifles, some like SMG's its all different, but if they put a sniper in there that wont even hit a guy when your aiming right on them, you dont see an unfairness there? Im not asking for Overpowered weapons either, FPS are never going to be balanced, you said that you drop shot.. so how is that balanced if the guy your shooting doesn't know how to drop shot? Drop shot isnt "tactical" thats just a cheap way to get kills really. And i forgot one more thing, second chance pro. Your going to tell me thats balanced? Oh yeah let me shoot him with my python 3 times and wait for my partner to come rez me like were playing nazi zombies.

    The point im trying to say here is that it sounds like you want all shooters to be balanced, Which will never happen, i admit treyarch did try to balance it with the killstreaks not counting towards another, but it will never be fair/balanced. Oh and if i was unexperienced i would be whining about the killstreaks and that i have to pay another 3000 COD points just to get the pro version of the perk i just bought :)
     
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    By unexperienced I wasn't reffering to how long you have been playing, but simply your play style. I myself have been playing since cod2. Up until mw2 I was absolutely terrible and could barely sustain a positive k/d. I didnt mean to flame I was just reffering to their attempt to balence the game. Also some points of note, the AK-74u has since been patched since its over powered days, and the galili while very accurate does not have a fast enough fire rate to compete in cqb. None of the weapons are nearly overpowered as the weapons in mw2.

    You also reffered to drop shoting causing the game to unbalance and this proves my point even more. For a game to be balanced the core game itself must be balance. Drop shoting is a skilled technique not infused in the code of the game. In the past the call of duty games have been unbalanced which doesn't allow for the skill players to shine through when the new players rape with their god guns. I believe Black ops is about as good of a game as it gets as far as balence/ competitive gameplay.

    Some other points of note... The uzi rips the ak74u apart in close range, and most assualt rifles can take it in long range. While it is obviously the most superior range weapon proving it to be very useful and a common choice of players, it has bad sides to balance the good. In mw2 the m16 raped in close range, and raped in medium range. While in long range the famas was a better weapon, it still held its own.

    And to your last point marathon, and ninja(other perks in the the third slot) outweigh the benefits of second chance. I hardly ever see someone using second chance. Also the balance in the perk is that it takes another players attention to heal this person and in that time a player could easily wipe both of them out.

    Once again I don't mean to flame it was wrong of me to assume that you were inexperienced I just find cod black ops to be one of the best games in the call of duty series, and i find Mw2 to be one of the worst. But if you were to ask cod4 was easily the best game as far as maps, weapons, and overall gameplay.
     
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    bump.
     
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    I'm just going to bump in here and say that the PSG1 without any attachments is a 1 shot kill from the stomach above (same as L96A1), it is a lot more accurate and semi-automatic, happy? If you don't believe me i'll give you a link to one of hutch's videos.

     
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    It's not "more accurate"
    It goes where you shoot it.
    And i honestly believe that's coincidence, no dev. would ad no attachment is better than extended mags, that's retarded.
     
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    1. Look at the stats compared to the L96, the accuracy bar is higher. Which means the hip-fire spread crosshair is smaller. Which means quickscoping will be more accurate if it doesn't register as a "scope" which half the time is the problem with snipers missing.

    2. In CoD4 the AK47 and AK74u without attachments did more damage and had less idle sway.

    3. You're retarded.
     
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    No.
    No, they didn't.
    Your points are invalid.
     
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    I feel Call of Duty Black Ops has been the best CoD since 4.
     
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    Why's that?
     
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    Imo it's incredibly balanced. No gun really sticks out, the LMG's besides the Stoner suck, but besides that everything is really equal. Snipers dominate at long range like they should, guns have a nice amount of kick like they should.

    Perkwise everything seems balenced also. Imo ghost sticks out as the best perk in slot one but besides that there is not a "bad" perk, or one that everyone uses like Jugg or Stopping power in previous CoD's.
     
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    Proof or gtfo.
     
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    I just made it to round 31 with my friend on Kino Der Toten :) *No Glitches*
     
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