The Golden Age of Botting is here (Robotz in Disguise)

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  1. Unread #961 - Jun 16, 2009 at 1:31 PM
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    The Golden Age of Botting is here (Robotz in Disguise)

    This bot is amazing...but i cant seem to figure out how it is able to walk and do what it does so efficiently without using reflection or bcel. Is it all color based?
     
  3. Unread #962 - Jun 16, 2009 at 2:30 PM
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    It reads whats on the screen just like you and I do. Then just like a human it decides on what to do. It can see 3d objects just like us as well. RID explained this in multiple posts before me so if you want more info just search it. =)
     
  5. Unread #963 - Jun 16, 2009 at 2:31 PM
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    Jimmy5410 - any difference between a human player, can potentially be used as a detection process. Human players don't read information from data, if your bot does, there are ways this difference can be exploited. Jansen is right, simply reading the data is fine, but a script that moves the mouse and makes clicks based on that data, is detectable - using the kind of process described above.

    Since we don't have access to code or details of Jagex's macro detection system, perhaps by your definition, there is no proof about ANY detection process. But there is a significant amount of proof, gained through in-game experience, observing what works, and what doesn't.

    Regarding mouse splines, the maths is compicated but to explain as simply as I can. Splines are functions that produce an on-screen coordinate, from a set of control points and a number between 0-1 which represents the position on the curve (0 will give the coordinate at the start of the curve, 1 the end, so 0.5 is the coordinate half way through the curve). These functions have inverse (reverse) functions, that can be used to calculate the control points, from the on-screen coordinates and position in the curve. The exact function you use (and corresponding inverse) will be visible through reverse engineering. Most splines even use the same control points for the entire movement, a dead give away! But even a smart design where curves are split into multiple splines joined together there will be mathematically observable patterns. Human players don't move the mouse in gradient continuous, or any other type of, spline. If your bot does, it is detectable, by a combination of reverse engineering, mouse position polling, and mathematics.

    Maybe you think it's safe to assume a detection process doesn't exist until it is 'proven' but it's a risk to assume any detection process that is possible, doesn't exist.

    Avalance - yes RID is 100% color based, but so is a human player. RID reads the player's position using landmarks, and mathematics gives a 3D awareness of the environment, allowing smooth operation from all camera angles.
     
  7. Unread #964 - Jun 16, 2009 at 2:32 PM
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    I was one of those banned from the recent "anti-macro detection update" I can say that Jagex did change the ID's as I used the Weirded red chinchompa hunter, Jagex both made it so the mouse would click on a spot (RSTile) and also click the Quest tab. This must be supported by a system implanted to uncover this behaviour. Thus this suggests to me that a Program such a RID which is fairly sophisticated in it's mechanics is still undetectable due to my theory and simplicity of the latest Macro detection methods.
     
  9. Unread #965 - Jun 16, 2009 at 3:37 PM
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    So it can recognize these objects or landmarks by color?and then find out how far away it is to get your location?
     
  11. Unread #966 - Jun 16, 2009 at 5:08 PM
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    The Golden Age of Botting is here (Robotz in Disguise)

    Does the bot need any updating due to today's update, I haven't been playing (hardly play rs) but I noticed the login buttons have changed and such and I don't know what else changed, so does it still work, or do you have to change anything?
     
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    it works fine for me, even when logging in.
     
  15. Unread #968 - Jun 17, 2009 at 1:52 AM
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    I know probably no one but you and a select few understand the man hours and how hard it is to create such complex bots RID, and I'm sure several people here are wondering how can we push you to create more bots not necessarily faster but in a reasonable time frame.

    I hope I don't sound too forward but we need more bots like yours, I'm sure by now there are a few already closing in on 99 smithing with your new one, so why not throw out the old pc idea which really is less than worth it and do something like soul wars that could train a wide variety of skills fast and effectively. Or a runecrafter that can make hundreds of mills by 99.

    I guess what I'm trying to say/ask is is there any possibility in the future that these will be made and will you be able to provide any sort of time frame. I understand with the blacksmith you kept it under wraps, I do not know your reasoning for this but if it was to ensure the safety of the botters then you do not have to release any information pertaining to new scripts.
     
  17. Unread #969 - Jun 17, 2009 at 3:13 AM
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    lol perm banned on an acc i bought 300 hours of smith and 200 hours of mage, gf transferring 3 hours a month imo.. only used like 5 hours all together to ;s
     
  19. Unread #970 - Jun 17, 2009 at 3:30 AM
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    Avalanche, have you ever played any first person shooter game like Call of duty? Well if you have/haven't, there's an option to change the difficulty level of the ai (artificial intelligence). The ai will have more precise aiming when shooting at you and they know where to shoot, where to run, where to walk, and even switch weapons. This is not done by a script, but just pure intelligence of a computer making it's own decisions.

    This is what this bot is. It uses artificial intelligence to read color, because we also read color and so do the bots in call of duty, they read color and know who to shoot, that's why you don't see them shoot their own team mates. If you notice that if you run in front of your team mate ai while their shooting, they will cease shooting or aim slightly away from you to avoid hitting you. RID's bots do not read from a script but make their own decisions just like we humans do. They can also learn and improve mouse speeds (according to RID)

    This is what makes this bot undetectable as long as you follow his guidelines and avoid other macros such as Scionbot and Rsbot.
     
  21. Unread #971 - Jun 17, 2009 at 6:47 AM
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    The Golden Age of Botting is here (Robotz in Disguise)

    To be honest I see RID as the future and Revolution to botting, and what I hope to see with this is RID actually creating various bots/programs that train different skills, as it appears to be the methods used are far superior than those seen in other bots, I also see RID as being a market leader of which I hope many other developers can arise to the challange and also create bots with such intelligence seen in RID.

    Thank you Robotzindisguise, you have helped us out tremendously.

    Humoured ~
     
  23. Unread #972 - Jun 17, 2009 at 9:39 AM
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    proof or gtfo

    EDIT: you can transfer any amount of hours you wish at one time, you're not limited to three hours per month, rather three occasions at which you may transfer.
     
  25. Unread #973 - Jun 17, 2009 at 9:46 AM
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    EDIT: UK subs - For a second I thought you meant a macroing ban! Unlucky, RWT can be risky depending on what method you use.

    You can transfer all your hours in one go, the limit is three transfers per month, not three hours per month.
     
  27. Unread #974 - Jun 17, 2009 at 10:38 AM
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    Agreed with Sex. More bots would be splendid.
     
  29. Unread #975 - Jun 17, 2009 at 11:33 AM
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    How many RiD users have been banned so far?
     
  31. Unread #976 - Jun 17, 2009 at 12:09 PM
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    RID, I got a question

    What's the best way to start a new account with this bot?
     
  33. Unread #977 - Jun 17, 2009 at 1:24 PM
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    Actually, it's far more likely that the AI just reads from the other processes running locally. It would take about 50x less effort and be 4x more reliable.
    But good try at an explanation anyway.
    Press "create account" on runescape.com
     
  35. Unread #978 - Jun 17, 2009 at 1:28 PM
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    Sorry for saying it was R.I.D it was Rsbot who got my accounts banned. I will keep on useing R.I.D on a new account :)
     
  37. Unread #979 - Jun 17, 2009 at 1:41 PM
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    For slow people like you let me put it into better words.

    What is the best way to start a newly created account with this bot. What is the fastest profit I could make to start.
     
  39. Unread #980 - Jun 17, 2009 at 3:19 PM
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    Try blacksmith it's better money than MT4 I believe and it's less hassle.
    Also, RID, I was using blacksmith at al-kharid again, I wanted it to smelt (numbers are made up to protect secrecy lol) 800 bars, so I put in 900 just to be safe, but it stopped after around 650. Is there anything wrong with putting in a higher number?
     
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