The Existence of God

Ohh, I think someone is about to loose their religious virginity.

But seriously, you are asking "why?". That's great, watch this video on prayer since you are wondering about its effectiveness.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jk6ILZAaAMI&feature=related

And as far as wanting to hold onto beliefs because the majority thinks it, just remember that most people need to feel important. In reality, eternal life is more appealing than rotting 6 feet under, so why not believe it? The need to feel like someone created them and someone loves them. The idea of evolution and the very creation of the universe confusses most people, so they choose religions simple answer to the complex problem of life.

Now you have the choice to decide whether you will be one of the people who blindly slides through life or to join the the logical thinker and help better the human race in your time here. It's that simple.

 

Evolution(Theory) can come about in a limited time span, and genetically turn monkeys into humans. You and I can walk, talk, breathe, and see. I can click a remote control and from distances like 20 feet, turn on a box with wires in it and watch a cartoon created from the pencil and pen of a very bored person.

Okay.

Now, ALL of these amazing things can happen, but what you reason against could not happen? How preposterous is it, really? Humans have been in the sky. Humans can think(To a certain extent, but nonetheless.). I'm not sure about invisibility, but if it were a supernatural being, hence, the word "Supernatural", then I'm pretty sure that he/she/they could do it.

I'm sure you've heard this before, and believe that this shows no stable standpoint as to prove my own point, but what evidence tells me that there is "NO" God(s)? None! However annoying and arrogant the question may be, I see no evidence. You request evidence, and to give my opinion open air for debate, I also request evidence.

Can you give it to me? If not, the debate stands as whether or not "You" have enough brain power to shun others beliefs in a, i'm sure, number of ways and explanations, while also doing it intelligently.

 

Just so you know, the scientific definition of theory is "an amalgamation of facts, evidence, predictions, and explanations that is logically consistent.

Sure.

It could. I'd say it's about as likely as Santa Clause.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_teapot

The burden of proof is on you.

 

Yet, the many theories of things irrelevant to this point, like the theories of dragons in the mist of Madagascar, is of course not made of facts or evidence, but predictions and explanations, whether true or not. Your knowledge of definitions and my knowledge of definitions, whether both true, are obviously different.

Mmkay. Well, thanks. You didn't reply to my question in the way I was hoping for, but you replied.

..I have a feeling that you're not taking me seriously, Shredder.

I'll read it. I've scanned it before, and I liked what I saw. Thanks for that link. I'm surprised that there is someone here interested in such philosophers such as Bertrand Russel. Good job, though I'm still not done with you!

His input on the theory china teapot in opposition to the teachings of a china teapot really interested me, lol. Just thought I'd say that. :]

 

Those aren't scientific theories, those are legends. The public, ignorant, idiotic definition of theory is very different from the logical, scientific one.

I take you perfectly seriously. I also take people who claim that Santa is real perfectly seriously. If I thought that you were having me on, I wouldn't debate you.

 

No, the Loch Ness Monster is a legend. The idea that there may be hidden dragons in Madagascar due to large, misshapen dents in the ground and savaged caves, though not widely believed, is a theory. It is not ignorant, considering the fact that there is evidence which would make one believe in such claims.

The idea of idiocy depends on the level of intelligence in a person. Whether your knowledge would allow you to believe that something is an idiot statement is up to your minds mind.

Like Bertrand said. If I said that dragons were hidden in Madagascar, you'd probably believe that, not fully, but for the most part, I was a lunatic. However, if Wikipedia told you that there were hidden dragons, you'd probably have a remark similar to, "Woah, I didn't know that!". What you believe varies on what you know.

However public the idea may be has very little to do with it's existence. Although I have debated on such claims and cases, I cannot deny that I would rather believe a claim backed up by logical, scientific, proven statements. You may be right in "some" of your post, but I am not wrong.

Well, from what I believe, at least.

Hmm. Okay. I'll take your word for it until I discover some standing point from which not to. You know .. With you, a person can never really tell if you're taking them seriously. :[ Lol.

 

i do not believe that there is 1 god that looks after everyone i believe that we ea have our own personal guardian kind of. now u might seem this sounds weird but if there is only 1 god he would not kno when u are in real trouble and need help because he does not kno u well. now a guardian has been lookin after u since u were born so they no when u are in trouble. for example it was my girlfriends b day and i forgot a present so i was going to her house to think of an excuse when i found a bunch of roses and a blank b day card with the roses. at that point i was deadly in love with my guardian.

final decision: ea have our own guardian

 

Yeah, I believe there is a God, but which religion to follow or believe in? I'm not so sure. I know theres a God, but yeah, I really don't believe in a certain religion lol. Wierd, I know ;$

 

Tripletee thats called agnostic (believing in god but no religion)

 

You have got to be kidding me..
Do you even know what a god is? A god is someone/something that KNOWS everything that KNOWS all.. not someone who gets familiar with you.. You think there is a Guardian watching after you? Then provide some proof, this topic is made for providing proof, which I could not, but at least provide an argument, if you state your opinion, we can't argue about that.. "NO YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN THIS" <--- that doesn't sound like a good argument does it?

 

Then it is not a theory, it is a hypothesis. It is a falsifiable prediction about what is causing the dents, however, it lacks evidence.

Wikipedia is generally a reliable source of information. I cannot say the same thing for certain about you.

If Wikipedia said that dragons existed, I probably would not believe it, due to the ease with which any person can edit it. Perhaps if a scientific team demonstrated their existence with photographs and specimens, then I might believe.

I'm really not sure what you're on about. Do you have any specific examples?

I call it coincidence.

Why?

Agnosticism is the belief that the existence of God is unknowable.

 

Ok shredder thanks for clearing that up then I guess your just an unknown religion tripletee

 

I believe religion was created to bring hope and civility to people who lived in a barbaric age of humanity. I believe over the years, prophets and their supposed miracles were fabricated for the sole purpose of bringing hope--and if it was a lie, I think it was a good one to tell.

 

There was need to lie, in order to get people to believe what you need them to believe.

Like Hitler said in a quote " Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it "

That just proves my point

 

yeah, that's definitely true, whether it's true or not, religion keeps our soceity in good condition for the most part. Yeah, i'm about done in this thread, it's pretty obvious that i can't debate with shredder and the rest of you... Lol, congratulations, but I just know God is real and with me.

Oh, and shredder, just a note that it's Santa Claus, not Clause like a clause in english

 

I once felt that way. Maybe you'll change.

Ah, cheers.

 

Maybe I will, but i really don't think so. I'm not one that just brushes ideas aside because they're against my ideas, i just feel very strongly about this.
And yea, our english teacher was giving us shit at christmas because we all had to write letters to younger kids pretending we're santa claus

 

Okay, honestly. How serious are you taking me, here? I don't believe in debating without reasonable, honest cause. If you're not taking me seriously, then please tell me...

What if Wikipedia had pictures? Nice little pictures should surely fill in for your wondering, right? I'm going on an assumption, here, but if Wikipedia said that a scientific team gave reason why such claims should be true, then wouldn't you believe them? Honestly, do not answer for the sake of answering, opposed to answering honestly. What you can learn depends on what you believe.

Sure, someone could easily edit it, but that is irrelevant to the point I've been trying to make.

Kind of. However, I shall release naught until I am sure that I have a reason to.

 

You're my new favorite newbie. Well said.

As Shreeder said, I once to believed this. But I do believe if you stick around here long enough and keep an open mind, logic will win you over.

Pretending to be Santa to make kids happy and feel secure in their longstanding beliefs...hmmmm

 

no, i am agnostic myself. the bible is complete bull. i mean roman catholics wrote in it... tons of people wrote in it. writing the bible is like writing your own science. its complete bullshit. thats like me writing a book telling people what to do what not to do and whats accepted.