The Existence of God

Are you willing to put your life on the line for this belief?


say you 100% believe in god and prayer and miracles, Lets say your in a burning building and your only escape is to turn to god, you get down on your knees and pray for god to catch you as you jump out of the window as its your only escape. If you believed in it 100% you would jump out of the building with no fear of hitting the ground, If not then you truely dont believe in the power of god, and therefor will be sent to hell with the rest of us athiests.

If you say, oh but god is a cunt when it comes to prayer then...

In Matthew 17:20 Jesus says:

For truly, I say to you, if you have faith as a grain of mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move; and nothing will be impossible to you.

In Matthew 21:21:

I tell you the truth, if you have faith and do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to the fig tree, but also you can say to this mountain, 'Go, throw yourself into the sea,' and it will be done. If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer.

The message is reiterated Mark 11:24:

Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.

So, can you honestly tell me you believe, because if you do, then you can do, and have, anything. So the way i see it, everyone on the entire planet is going to hell, since no one can have anything they want, which god has told us we can if we beleive. so NO ONE truely believes.

Edit: god i love quoting the bible.

 

Pick a page of the old testament at random.

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I know are people completely ignorant about gods message? He supports slavery, child abuse, hes sexest, he wants us to kill millions of people. what sort of person is he?

 

God said that anyone put himself in danger of death with his will will be punished like smokers , Drunk ppl ....and one try to kill himself. If u mean that I was in that situation I will try my best to scape but I'm not that afraid of dying. If I died , this means heaven. So I'm not scared of it.

Have u ever heard of destiny. Everyone has his destiny. Do u know that if u believe that everyone has a destiny that can't be changed will neva fear anything. Lets say what god said ''If the all ppl on the earth planed to hurt u while its not ur destiny they will neva be able to and if the all ppl in earth planed to save u while its not ur destiny u will neva be saved. So, If u believe in ur destiny u will neva fear anything cuz u know it will change nothing. If I was in this situation I will pray to join the heaven. By the way If I really prayed not to die I will be saved if this was good for me. Not necessary god catches me with his hands. But I know a kid have 3 years old and fall from floor number 5 without any damage. God saved him but this doesn't mean he caught him with his hand. I hope u got my point. Who knows that if I was saved , I would be a bad person and go to hell. So wat u think is bad , it might be good. Gad say '' U might hate something while it's the good for''.

I didn't understand the last sentence but I do believe in Jesus , Mohammed all other prophets but my only book will be The Holy Quraan.I don't believe in Bible in our age. It had been change by ppl to work on their efforts. They kill ppl in the name of the god . They do horrible things in the name of god and all of that because they changed the Bible. Try to have look into Quraan.

Omg, U r turely illiterate about this. Who told u that :S:S:S............!
supports slavery: Prophet Muhammed was the first on in the world asked for ending slave and said that they anyone who free a slave will go to the heaven .His friends freed thousands of slaves. God was the first one to say that all ppl are equal and this is written now in Quraan. He said no one betta than other and he created all of us so there are no difference.Now , U say he support slavery please read from good resources.U might have a look into Quran to find that.As I said be4 , U choose wrong references...
Chile abouse : OMG. U r really weird. Can u give me any proof.
hes sexest : U must be talking about another god. actually u don't know anything about god. U are talking about devil ??? the enemy of god in earth.In Quran God said that he is neva marry, have sex or have a child. In Quraan also he ordered us not to have sex unless with our wifes. If u cheated on ur wife and there were 4 witnesses u will be killed.As I said u r talking about devil not god :S.
he wants us to kill millions of people : this why I said I don't believe in Bible. This wat ppl do. They changed the Bible and killed ppl saying that this is God will.I want u to know that Muslims army are forbidden to kill anyone unless they are defending themselves or free other ppl.If u r even in wars , U r forbidden to kill Women, Children and Old people. If other army or anyone gave up , U are forbidden to kill him. This is my God :S. U should know Who is God first and then come to talk. Its the first time for me to find someone who don't know the difference between God and Devil. Read More.

 

In my last post, I linked to a picture containing a lot of information about religion. Read the part that says "Let me tell you about Mithra."

And kher0, in that picture also, there is verses from the Christian bible showing how clearly God supports slavery and death of so many things.

etc. etc.

 

I told u that I don't believe in Bible in our age Because it has been changed to serve ppl and I said I want u to use Quraan its the only really book from God now. Read in it and U will know wat God really do. Bible was changed from long time ago to serve ppl so don't even look in it.

 

Hate to say it, but I guess i agree with, shredderbeam on this one, UNLESS anyone has another explanantion?

~MX

 

Lol. Who gave u this information. Start to read and investigate be4 believing. I'm from Middle East and believe me u r the ppl who wants to kill us. Look To American in Iraq and they r now trying to get to Iran. Middle East is very weak to attack anyone. U want Oil and U explained that God oredered ppl not to fight until they r defending their countries. They can't kill Children , Women or Old ppl. Then u come and say we are the terrorism. Look wat happens in Iraq and then come to talk.

 

Look what happened at 9/11. If that isn't terrorism I have no idea what it is.

 

i wasnt talking about putting yourself into danger, i mean if your become in that situation.

All you are proving is that the bible is in contridiction with itself. I quoted several times where god said your prayers will come true and can do ANYTHING, so you could pray to god that you could fly, and he would grant you this power.

More people kill in the name of allah, look at 9/11... They honestly believe that they are taking a one way ticket to heavan by flying a plane into a building, wheres the logic in that?

GOD TOLD ME, READ HIS BOOK.

 

Actually recently not too long ago it was decided that if someone commits suiced that you will still go to heaven. On the count of that you were not in the right state of mind.

 

This is why I hate arguing in forums. I answered this be4. PPl who did this aren't good and we ( Muslims ) hate them more than u. We was sorry more than American themselves for wat happened. Do u think we were happy when this things happened. I said be4 , good ordered us not to kill any human unless they r fighting us ( soldiers only ) Not regular ppl. PPl who did this I think will have their punishment from the GOD . So to be clear God didn't order this.

I said Bible was changed by ppl to serve them. Bible isn't from god anymore. It was be4 Muhammed and Quraan. Now its not so don't give me pieces from Bible and say it as it was from God. Give me anything from Quraan and If I couldn't answer it I will do wateva u want

 

It's clearly not a matter of "if God didn't order this", the intent was the same and ultimately it stemmed straight from the roots of religion. Whether or not these people were part of "your or my religion" the foundation of their attacks came straight from religious purposes and that's the point I believe Swan was trying to make.

 

Why is everyone attacking kher0? You're talking about the Christian god while he is talking about the Muslim god. You can't argue unless your talking about the same thing!

Let the man speak without generalizing that all Muslims are terrorists. I don't hear him saying that all Christians are crusaders. He clearly stated that he and all other real Muslims hate terrorists more than you do, because they bring shame to their religion.

For the record, I'm atheist and think you're both wrong, but stop being such assholes to him for expressing himself.

 

Personally No. God i physically impossible. But, without religion our society would fall apart, and we would all die due to war riots etc.

Religion keeps people following rules, because they think there are consequences for their actions.

 

You really don't think it's possible to have a civilized society without religion? Hopefully you'll be proven wrong some day, if today's tendencies continue.

 

It doesnt matter what they think. you heard of the god of the gaps? as time goes by, we are scientifically proving more and more of the things people believe god was behind, such as the believe that a storm was from god when he was angry, tides, all sorts of stupid things. as time goes by the gap is getting smaller and smaller. god is behind less and less the more we discover.

 

What has that got to do with my post?

 

Simple as... if their is one ounce of proof I will change my mind, but it seems their is not... so yeah...

 

There are signs. God does exist, you have nothing to lose if you dom if you do follow religion or better, Islam ur destined to go to Heavan, but if you don't you will die and if there is a heaven and hell, you will go to hell. No1 knows for sure but believe it