The Existence of God

Faith in Jesus Christ
John 3:16 (New International Version)

16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.


Thats all i have to say

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

yeah fuck evidence

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

Probably nothing.

No, it would mean there is all the more reason to enjoy what you have.

Pascals wager is flawed because it doesn't take into account the hundreds of different gods that various peoples have believed in.

See my previous point about why you're wrong.

The Earth doesn't exist, it's sad how people disagree.
See how easy it is to make baseless assertions?

You're so arrogant as to not even admit the chance that you are wrong?

Ok fine, don't call it a religion, who cares. It's just semantics.

And as such, it is irrational to believe in god.

 

Do you really think that god would accept you if you go with the ideology "If I die and god exists I might go to heaven, but if not then nothing happens."

 

Logically psychic pink ravens MUST have created with the earth. I swear it, someone told me about it and I read it somewhere!

Do you see how baseless that is? It makes no difference if you place God in place of psychic pink ravens.

Furthermore, it doesn't make it pointless. If having no God is pointless, then I suppose animals other than humans in existence are pointless. What of the millions of drones of insects which act upon instinct rather than will, to serve a hive rather than themselves? What happens to them? What is their purpose?

We live, we will most likely reproduce, and then we will die. It is a fact of life, it doesn't mean one can't enjoy life without a deity. On the other hand, I quite enjoy the idea of not living eternally. It teaches me to appreciate what I currently have more, and it also tells me I've only got one life to do the things I want to do. Furthermore when one dies, one does not know that one is dead because one is not capable of thinking about such things. Pointless or not, nothing changes.

You're still making the arrogant assertion that those who do not believe in a God or afterlife are nihilists. You couldn't be more wrong. While there are some that do think that way, the majority have their own inner reason to live.

 

I'm not getting riled up. It's the fact that this is a debate forum.

So let's assume that the Bible is right, and so is that sentence. This would imply that all you have to do to get into heaven is believe. Is this true?

 

Food for thought: I could believe but worship the devil. Do I still get in to heaven?

 

On the contrary, if Christian belief is right, then life is pointless. Think about it. Let's assume you're right, and you died right now you'd go to heaven. If you live for another 70 years, you go to heaven. Heaven is eternal, which makes those 70 years insignificant. If you die today or in 70 years there would be no difference.

What the point of life then? If I was Christian, and suicide wasn't a sin, I'd kill myself.

 

me personaly i do but sometimes i ask my self if there is not and then somethink bad hapen s to me .maybe is god punishing me of what im thinking or its just my bad luck

 

This is hiliarious none of you can comprehend what non -existant means incredible. ill watch these forums until a intelectuall comes so i may debate with him.

if we become non-existant when we die then all essence of life has no meaning and no purpose.

this sentence seems to be more than anyone can comprehend here pretty sad tbh. all your replies are mindless telling me that you dont understand what non existant means .

 

FOOD FOR THOUGHT;IF YOU TRULY BELEIVED YOU WOULD NOT BE WORSHIPING THE DEVIL. THAT WAS A RETARTED QUESTION NEXT TIME THINK BEFORE YOU POST]

 

I suppose you think you're intellectual then? I suppose your terrible use of English is just an act then? Your argument and logic is also flawed, ignorant and ad hominem. This voids anything you have to say in this debate.

And ...? That doesn't mean people shouldn't enjoy their ONLY life.

I perfectly understand what non-existent means. You on the other hand simply take the stance of "X is comforting therefore X is true." Of course, this is flawed logic and your arguments will continue to be flawed until you remedy this.

You misinterpreted my question. One could indeed believe that God exists yet worship socalled "evil".

 

I dont think there is a God every thing stated about god can be counter-acted by science.

 

I really hope you're trolling, because it's people like you that give religious people a bad name.

 

"All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particle of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of an atom together. We must assume behind this force, the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind. This mind is the matrix of all matter." -Max Planck

 

Should you be surprised that the vast majority of scientists in the 18th - 20th century believed in God?

Even today, most still do. The validity of this assumption is not any greater because of the quantity or virtue of it's believers.

 

You're saying that life has to have a purpose. Why?
Can't our purpose be to reproduce and carry on our species?
We wouldn't be conscious, just like before we lived.

 

They also had a more complex view of God. One that doesn't concern himself with fates and actions of human beings, but reveals himself in the harmony of the universe. This type of God seems more plausible than what any religion offers.

 

That's like questioning if air exists.
You can't see it but you know it's there.

 

Everything that has a beginning must be caused by something else.
The universe had a beginning; therefore,
the universe had to be caused by something else.
The first premise deals with the law of causality which states that whenever there is an effect, there is a cause. This premise asserts that something can never be produced or caused by nothing since nothing has no existence or power to produce anything at all.

While the kalam argument points to the necessity of God's existence at the origin of the universe, another argument (the vertical argument) declares that God's existence is currently necessary in order for contingent things to exist today. Something is contingent if it is possible for it not to exist. This argument is expressed in the following way: Every part of the universe is contingent. Since every part is contingent, then the whole universe is contingent because the whole universe is not greater than the sum of its parts. The universe therefore does not have to exist. However, the universe does exist, and consequently, it must be dependent on a Being who must necessarily exist. Something that is necessary must be holding together all of the parts of the universe which are contingent. Therefore, this Being must be all powerful since He holds all of the contingent parts of the universe together.

 

Yeah, this is exactly the type of God that most of the greatest intellectuals in recent history believed in.