The Existence of God

How can you know it's not a coincidence? You can't - you're just trying to convince yourself. Fail.

And on top of this, it has happened many times to the same people (one person has been struck 7 different times) - and it has never struck the majority of other people.

 

No, I don't. I also think that god is a very horrible man if he is destroying us from the inside out.

 

If there was a greater force, why do you believe It chose to help you other then millions of other people in need?

 

And how is he destroying us? God doesnt interfere, so he hasnt destroyed us.

You know, thats the most fail pastor, ever. I do not go to church, nor do you have to, for believing what that pastor did, he would more likely go to hell. And, just for not believing in god, you wont go to hell, and if it says you will in the bible, its most likely been rewritten, before.

So? gods never helped me, i still belive in him, if you need proof, then you wont get it. I still belive, and ive lived a very bad like the last 3 yrs.

Convince yourself? Yeah, im sure. Do you know, its impossible for humans to just have been made, by atoms or w/e do you not see how well human bodies work? Oh, and one more thing, god exists because, there wouldnt have been any atoms either, because NOTHING just appears. And the universe started with nothing, there wouldnt be anything to create us.

 

Prove that statement.

So you chose what to believe in the bible and discard what YOU THINK was re-written?

You're irrational then.

argumentum ad ignorantiam
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution

 

Why do you believe in God?

How do you know that it's impossible for human bodies to be made by naturalistic means? Have you studied the matter thoroughly?

How do you know that the only two options for the existence of the universe are appearing from nothing versus God creating it?

 

As I'm sure most of you have learned this next principal I will present:
The conservation principal- which states that matter cannot be created nor destroyed and that energy cannot be created nor destroyed but transferred...

^^ So if that is how everything works, then how did everything get here?

For those of you saying that the Big Bang is the answer--- I will have to disagree with you as I did a paper on it for science class-- http://www.angelfire.com/az/BIGBANGisWRONG/index.html <--- just so you don't have to take my word

The thing that people can't wrap themselves around something that has no beginning and no end

Also for the person that was talking about how women can't talk in church, maybe some research is needed on the subject. Paul is referring to a problem in Corinth. He is not speaking to all women in 1 Cor. 14:35. I will say that women can't be priests- But I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ, the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.

 

Are you using the argument ad ignoratum?

 

a god didnt make us science did but if a god gives people faith then fair enough
but no i dont belive in god

 

You're making little to no sense.

 

Even if I go through all these struggles and somebody asks me, "Who do you believe in?", I believe in God.

 

I know theres a god, because hes done things for me, and probably, saved my life. When my dad killed himself, and the garage was filled with smoke, i was going to go in.. i closed the door, and when i tried to go in again, it had locked itself, if i had went in, i probably wouldve died, and many other reasons aswell. And, it is possible, but theres a 9.9999999999999999999999999999999*Dosnt wanna make to many 9's.* That a human could be created, but a body as complex as ours? I doubt that, and im not going to bother looking it up, its obvious thatd it take alot more then 100000000000000billion years to make us.

 

Uhh, it's good that you have faith. But how about an engineering malfunction? "I don't know what it is, but for lack of a better explanation, it must have been God" is basically what you're saying. Argument of ignorance.

And a human could not have been the first organism created, but what - you think God created all species of all organisms simultaneously? You heard of a think called evolution? Don't bullshit pointless numbers - it's obviously obvious that it would NOT take a lot more than 10000000000000000000 billion years to make us, because a primitive form of homo erectus (the predecessor to homo sapiens) was found 2 million years ago...

 

[sarcasm]But God is an exception of course![/sarcasm]

 

God himself, the creator of the universe, peered down into the Milky Way, down into Earth, all the way into your garage, noticed that you were in danger, and turned the lock? The otherwise consistent laws of physics seem to disagree with you.

Opening a door into a smoky garage does not endanger your life.

What other reasons, specifically? Are they repeatable/empirically verifiable?

Oh, you've got some numbers in there! Can I see how you worked that number out? May I see your credentials?

 

well explain your reasons then, how do you believe everything came to be, how did every fucken thing in this world come about? Justify why you (non believers) don't believe and why.... What do you feel gave life to earth? Earth is the only known planet (don't bring up mars) with life... life needs heat between here, and here.... this much light... this much water... and earth just seems to have all the perfect conditions for life

 

1) A brief history of time by Stephen Hawking could just about cover that. Wikipedia it. Basically, big bang -> a lot of years of stuff hitting each other -> Earth.
2) I don't believe because it's irrational to believe something that can't be proven, really. And I think there is better reason behind non-believing than believing.
3) I feel life on Earth was created through abiogensis.
4) Humans have covered maybe 10^-100000th, maybe less, of the known universe (I really don't know how big the universe is estimated to be right now, but it's ever expanding, and we haven't even gotten out of our SOLAR system yet). Anyways, what does this have to do with anything? I'm sure if we were on a planet somewhere in the universe with the same credentials as Earth (and surely, this MUST exist), we'd be saying the exact same thing - there must be god, since everything is so perfect. Argument of ignorance and a half? "Since I don't know what created it, it MUST have been God to be so perfect."

 

The Universe has always existed, or has it? Apparently it was created from a source, but how is it that the source is unknown?

A God has always existed, or has it? Apparently it was created from a source, but how is it that the source is unknown?

I've known about "The Secret" for a long time, but I never felt like posting a Thread about it.

And as no evidence is existant to prove the belief that God has existed, how do we know that he has also created such an energy source, on which all life feeds. If everything is made from Energy, then wouldn't God be just that?

So it is that Christians are worshiping a God, or just the Energy surrounding us?

Hmm. I hope someone can make sense of this.

 

Coinsidence

Out of the billions of galaxies out there, im sure there has to be other planets with ideal conditions for life to form. If god created the world, as we where the only living planet, why would he waste his time making so many dead planets? why make an ever expanding universe with billions of galaxies that are all for nothing?

If a single being created the universe, and the earth being the "centre", the only planet with gods creations, dont you think the world would be alot more simple?

Also, The earth isnt "perfect" If god did create a perfect living environment why would he make our light source send deadly radiation that causes cancer? just a thought

 

If the earth was perfect, we wouldn't be here. Enough said.