The Existence of God

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  1. Unread #2581 - Oct 18, 2008 at 2:47 PM
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    Very well said Straggler.

    It's all nonsense.
     
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    And God cannot be real. And who cares what this "Trinity" is.. it's non-existant. Just an imagination. And how is it that time came to what it is? They have events leading up to Christ, and then poof, he came as they all said? OH I'M SURE!

    And now we live our time in A.D. So we are living in 2008 A.D.?
    How ridiculous!!!!!!!!
     
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    You know, atheists aren't supposed to claim that God doesn't exist. They simply have no belief in a supernatural entity. The burden of proof is indeed on the theists who claim that such an entity exists, and atheists see no evidence for such a being and therefore do not believe in its existence, but it would be rather irrational of you to claim, without a shred of proof, that God doesn't exist. The probability may be in the negatives, but it's there. It's as arrogant as if you claim that life outside of Earth doesn't exist due to the lack of evidence, when you cannot know with a hundred percents certainty. If you want to reach the person you debate, build a bridge instead of attacking them and/or their beliefs, no matter how silly it may seem to you.
     
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    There is no physical evidence. But, there is spiritual evidence. Which can only be experienced by you.

    If you want "proof" god exists. You will have to give god a chance to prove it to you. You would have to go to church and worship, sing praise, and that will give you the opportunity to experience the holy spirit.

    Religion is based on faith. Faith that there is someone looking over you and helping you when you are in need. Faith can be gained by worshiping and praying. I have my doubts some times but in the end, I have complete faith that there is a god. Who is looking over us.

    Obviously shredderbeam, you will never give religion a chance so you will never experience god in the way others have. I will pray for you...

    Also please stop "demanding" "physical evidence" that god exists. Because there is no such thing. There is only spiritual evidence and testimonies of people who have experienced it.

    -Mike
     
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    I fully and completely believe in god. As for proof I can't be so sure. No one knows for certain how the universe began there are billions of possibilities and only 1 is right.

    All I know is god seems to be pretty real to me. When my mom was incredibly sick with MS I prayed over her and laid hands on her. She was almost completely and entirely healed within a week. She still suffers a bit from it but no where near what is was 5 years ago. The doctors say they have no idea what could have triggered the healing and they were flabbergasted.
    Coincidence? Maybe

    When my grandmother was dying with cancer the first time, I prayed for her to be healed i laid hands on her and prayed and all her scans came up clean. She later relapsed, but when she did I asked for her passing to be gentle, and it was.
    Coincidence? Also a maybe.

    I have prayed over people and I have prayed for many people. I've seen things that doctors have said impossible. My cousin had a baby a week ago, as it was coming out she had complications, the baby couldn't breath and was dying quickly. The doctors said there was almost no chance for it to live, he said to hope. I said no, I said we pray. He agreed and all 8 of us prayed and the baby is entirely healthy.

    If any person can dare show me proof beyond a doubt that I am wrong. I may consider changing my beliefs, but I know no one can do that.
     
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    I've heard of plenty of people praying for "god" to heal family members, friends etc. Most of them haven't worked.

    In my opinion, I doubt that praying actually helps any thing.

    - I highly doubt this. Definition of impossible;
    im·pos·si·ble
    adj.
    1. Incapable of having existence or of occurring.
    2. Not capable of being accomplished: an impossible goal.
    3. Unacceptable; intolerable: impossible behavior.
    4. Extremely difficult to deal with or tolerate: an impossible child; an impossible situation


    If you know nobody can do this, Why even say it?
     
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    In your profile under location it says narnia.

    Narnia was a film based on religion, christianity.

    You doubt of a god but say you live in narnia?

    Not really that much of an arguement but most non believers would dispise a movie like that if they knew what it was really about.
     
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    Content created by Christians does not automatically make it "Bad" in the eyes of an Atheist. You are making up irrational arguments on the grounds that you have nothing else left to argue with. If you're going to use such reasoning, just get out.

    C.S. Lewis was a good writer. I have no reason to despise him just because he's Christian.
     
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    This is why I don't believe in prayers: it only works for 1 in a million shot. Millions of people die of AIDS, cancer and various other lethal diseases every year. Millions of other people prays for them daily... why would God only answer a stereotypical person from the west who already lives in a country with some of the best healthcare systems, whilst children die of a simple cold in 3rd world countries because they can't afford medicine?
     
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    Yeah, Just look at what Swan said. ;)


    Edit: I would of said it was based more on Fiction that religion?
     
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    I personally am a Christian, (yes, I sin a lot) but how could we be here without a Creator? It's intelligent design. In evolution you supposedly came from a fish like creature. But the thing I don't get on how people believe it is how could the fish evolve into a monkey? Would it go onto the land with lungs or gills? That's my personal opinion. God has proved himself in various ways. I would like to mention, why be an atheist? You don't have anything to lose, so why not just pray for forgiveness of sins through Jesus Christ and be saved. You could die tomorrow unexpectedly and if you weren't saved you would be judged and have to go to hell. Why not just take the gift? I believe in God because I was at school, (I go to a Christian school) and there was a girl who on her paper on the last day of school said she couldn't wait to play tag with Jesus. 4 days later she was in an ATV accident and was in the hospital. She was expected to live but she died, and the doctors can't explain what took her. But, that's my personal opinion.
     
  23. Unread #2592 - Oct 19, 2008 at 12:34 PM
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    Please explain what faith is, and why you have it.

    Nobody is saying that life began from nothing.

    How do you know this?

    Do you agree that the truth value of a claim is independent of its comfort value? In other words, does the comfort a belief provides make it true?

    That's an interesting proposition. Atheism is a flaw that directly results from a flawed upbringing. Shall we conduct an investigation to see if your hypothesis bears out?

    This is a Foundationalism viewpoint - and is rational in the absence of any other evidence. However, with modern science, many experiences that were previously considered to be mystical have rational explanations. For example, inhaling natural gas can cause one to hallucinate, which was interpreted as the Gods communicating with man in the past. You must think carefully about your belief, and make sure that there are no obvious alternative naturalistic explanations.

    I was raised as a very religious person. That will not be necessary.

    What is faith?

    I'll think for you.

    Hopefully, you do not entirely disregard empirical science. Would you be interested in performing a series of double-blind tests (all expenses paid for, of course)?

    You are using the "God of the Gaps" argument.

    You are using the Argument from Ignorance.

    There are many religions, most with conflicting truth-claims. What basis do you have for differentiating among them?

    Let's think this through: A girl writes on her paper that she cannot wait to play tag with Jesus, and four days later, dies after being in an ATV accident. The two events are then related? Jesus ended her life on Earth so he could play tag with her? Jesus plays tag?
     
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    I believe completely in empirical science. I believe pretty much believe everything that can be tested, and even some theories, but I like to toy with the ideas from a creationist's standpoint. To be honest my biology teacher got me started with the whole idea of looking at it from both sides. He is christian and he teaches us what is in the book then he challenges us to look at a creationist's view and see how we would explain it.
     
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    Well then, I advise you to contact your local hospital, and ask to set up an objective study.
     
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    Funny how people believe that the government was behind 9/11, and yet they can't believe in an ancient zombie who came back to life after 3 days of living in a cave.
     
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    if god is real, why is their always natural disaster e.g. earthquakes etc...gf?
     
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    Hmm, what do u mean shredderbeam?
     
  35. Unread #2598 - Oct 19, 2008 at 3:10 PM
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    The two ideas aren't very similar.

    Have your supposed healing powers empirically validated, and then we'll talk.
     
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    The "problem of evil" is not exactly a sound proof of the non-existence of God.
     
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    God Is Real You Should Turn Around Your Sins And Come And Bless His Holy Name "jesus" Learn About What He Did In The Past And What He Going Do For The Furture Read The Bible And See His Holy Work!!

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