The Existence of God

Theory means something with a substantial amount of proof to back it up. Gravity is only a theory. A notion must be pretty airtight in order to be considered a theory. There is no theory of creationalism. It's a concept.

Well, when you figure out, you're welcome to come back.

 

+1.

Concept and theory are not to be taken for granted, though. You never know when one may proof true. Though, I doubt God can be proven true any time soon.

 

Supernatural can never be proven as it lies in a different dimension. Also you cant prove him true as he "must be hidden"

Trying to prove god to exist is like trying to prove that the flying spaghetti monster is real, itl never happen. There isnt any reason why we should even contemplate god as a possibility when there has been no evidence of its existance. it was a made up idea, just like the spaghetti monster.

 

so you posted this having no idea in a debate section? nice post count.

but por you are exactly right. our answers end th story but no one wants to believe in it or something.. i dont understand

 

Supernatural: Of or relating to existence outside of the narutal worlds limits.

If a flying spaghetti monster flew down the street, assuming that it were a supernatural being and was believed in, would it be in a different dimension?

Probably existing in a non-existant realm, I suppose? Existant to him, but not to anyone else. Right ..

Trying to prove that God exist is kind of like believing in God. The term "God" typically refers to a monotheistic concept of a supreme being that is unlike any other being.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existence_of_God#Definition_of_God.27s_existence

God was not a made up idea. Nor was the concept of Atheism, which go hand in foot ..

You, my friend, have been proven wrong.

 

If the flying spaghetti monster is existant in a non existant realm then you can say the same about god. and for something to exist in a non existant real then it doesnt exist.
If there was a god he would be from another realm would he not? if he created the universe from nothing, where would have he been if there was nothing here? how could he exist in a universe that hadnt existed yet?

yes it is, there both piontless.

justify that. god has left no physical evidence on earth, how can you believe in something thats never been seen, never been heard, never even left a single mark on this planet. and how can you compare god with atheism as a concept?

you havnt proved anything, All you have basically said is that god lives in a non existant realm with the spaghetti monster.
God is obviously from a different universe from ours since he couldnt be in a universe that hadnt existed yet as he created it. If you want to argue that he is then he couldnt of created it.
So bottom line is if god is from this realm, he didnt create the universe. if he isnt then to us he doesnt exist.

 

I do not believe in "the" god, but I believe in a god.

I think Bible is a book of bullshit, even if it was written by people trying to make things better.

There may have been a person named Jesus, but everything was exaggerated.

 

I do believe in a God. This God is not omnipotent, nor is it omniscient, but it exists, certainly. I know this because God has spoken to me.

 

Do you have any empirical evidence of Him? I can say that a fluffy pink unicorn has spoken to me, but that doesn't make it anymore true.

 

John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

The reason there is no proof?

When Satan made his plea (read up on it, I can't be bothered explaining), God created humans with free-will so that they could make their own decisions, whether to accept God or not. The reason there is no proof is that how could God get people to freely believe in him if there was proof that he existed? It is the whole reason he made humans.

@ Shredderbeam - It is impossible to give you proof that there is a God, except to take my word for it. You may as well keep your $1000.

When I think of God, something inside me just feels that God is there. When one gets to heaven, they will see the chances they had when they were alive on Earth, and will be unable to deny that they weren't given the chance to accept Christ as their saviour.

However, there is PROOF of JESUS. We know that there were three men that were hung on a cross in Roman times, and we can't deny that.

Also, how was the Earth created? Oh sure, the Big Bang theory. Well it certainly seems logical that a point of singular mass just exploded to have billions and billions of light-years of mass (scientists can't explain how it exactly happened, wouldn't a point of singularity remain a point of singularity? What made it explode?). Or, we could believe that the God who can do anything created it. And you may ask why he created so much? My belief is that he created it to house the angels, but then again, that could sound just as ridiculous as the Big Bang theory. But again, it comes down to the free-will of the human, and this is the thing that God is trying to prove to Satan.

Revelations 20:15 - And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.



Believe what you want, because it all comes down to human's free will, to believe.

 

Hint: the stories about Jesus and God was plagiarized. Watch Zeitgeistmovie.com

When I think of God, something inside me feels quite opposite of your feelings. Perhaps one of us is delusional.

Where? I have never seen any validated evidence indicating that a Jewish carpenter named Jesus Christ ever existed 2000+ years ago. But of course, if you can provide me with a link, that would be very nice of you.

 

God is only a theory/belief as it is.

 

Well i think thats quite bad =\

 

I do not, and I do not demand that you believe me. I forget who has said it, but the only way to be certain of God's existence is through a personal, self-validating experience.

 

What are you talking about? What is quite bad?

 

For God so loved the world, that he let millions of people die in WWII, that he doesn't care about the AIDS epidemic, and that he doesn't care to spread his word to EVERYONE on Earth so innocent people don't go to hell.

So instead, God the omnipotent, has to scare people into believing in him. If God was really that great, he wouldn't need to scare people into believing in him, people would come to him.

He probably wouldn't offer to give away $1000 if he thought that there was a possibility of him losing it.

Funny, whenever I think of God, I start laughing at how rediculous the whole concept is.

No there isn't. No one in Jesus' lifetime wrote about him, not even the historians who lived in right place at the right time, not even a word about Jesus. Historians did not start writing about Jesus until 50-60 years after his death.

Ok first of all, scientists aren't God, so don't expect them to explain the entirety of reality to you.

Do you still think that earthquakes, thunderstorms, volcanoes, and meteor showers are acts of God? That's exactly what people 2000 years ago thought, before scientists came and explained everything. Later, the Church changed its opinion and accepted that these events were natural and not acts of God. So if you believe they are acts of nature, then you basically agreed with scientists.

Science has been chipping away at uncertainty steadily over the years. So it is not long until we know so much about the universe, that blind faith will be completely unnecessary and laughed upon.

Even the aboriginals in Africa who have never heard of Christianity?

It is not free will when there are going to be consequences for your actions. When God says ok do whatever you but if you do this this and that, you will burn in hell forever. People will not have a choice but to follow God's orders, since they will not want to burn in hell forever.

 

you all seem to be lost with answers but hears what i got to say...

i am a muslim and as you can imagine very religious and i believe in god (allah)

you need to uderstand that god cannot be proved by the same way you prove the exsitence.
This is becuse god is not a physical object, any physical object is subject to your five senses you know smell hear sight and the rest.
you cannot use your 5 sense on god simply becuase he is a Transcendental Being [existing on a level beyond our sensual perception].
As said in the quran in Surah 2, verse 164

*{Behold! in the creation of the heavens and the earth; in the alternation of the night and the day; in the sailing of the ships through the ocean for the profit of mankind; in the rain which God Sends down from the skies, and the life which He gives therewith to an earth that is dead; in the beasts of all kinds that He scatters through the earth; in the change of the winds, and the clouds which they Trail like their slaves between the sky and the earth;- [Here] indeed are signs for a people that are wise.}*

what its trying to say here is that these are the sighns of gods existance aand only the wise will understand.

hope that sums it up especially for you shredderbean =]

 

There have been no signs that I'm aware of. God has thrown no "Hello, I'm watching over you, so be good" warnings my way.

 

So if God is not subject to our 5 senses, then how do we know he is there. And if he is not subject to our 5 senses, then how do we know what religion he belongs to.

shredderbean LMAO

 

no signs that your aware of??

how about the earth?
or the moon or the seas and oceans
or night a day
or life and death

i also did mention this in my previous post.......