The Death Penalty: Legal or not?

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Do you support the death penalty?

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The Death Penalty: Legal or not?
  1. Unread #1 - Mar 9, 2011 at 7:22 PM
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    The Death Penalty: Legal or not?

    Do you support the death penalty? Why?
     
  3. Unread #2 - Mar 9, 2011 at 7:31 PM
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    The Death Penalty: Legal or not?

    I do. Only for crimes such as murder, rape, and others depending on the severity. There is no reason anyone should have to pay to support someone that takes the life of another. They didn't value that person's life, why should we value theirs?

    I think the death penalty is too lenient. People sit in prison their whole lives and that's all they're ever gonna do. They are nothing more than a burden on society. They should be killed, in my opinion.

    Overpopulation is going to become a big problem, we can start be eliminating those that prove that they do not value their life.
     
  5. Unread #3 - Mar 9, 2011 at 7:47 PM
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    The Death Penalty: Legal or not?

    Explain?

    What about wrongly convicted people?
     
  7. Unread #4 - Mar 9, 2011 at 8:01 PM
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    The Death Penalty: Legal or not?

    Why can life not be sufficient?

    The system will always be flawed. The death penalty makes it so that mistakes can not be corrected.
     
  9. Unread #5 - Mar 9, 2011 at 8:34 PM
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    The Death Penalty: Legal or not?

    Yeah I think its reasonable. "Eye for a Eye". If your willing to Murder someone and destroy peoples lives for no reason then yes. It's sad that we have to do this but criminals anymore are ruthless so there has to be a ruthless penalty.
     
  11. Unread #6 - Mar 9, 2011 at 9:33 PM
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    The Death Penalty: Legal or not?

    You make a point. I would have to say that there needs to be a sufficient amount of evidence of guilt, and no evidence of innocence for this to be a feasible punishment.
     
  13. Unread #7 - Mar 9, 2011 at 11:34 PM
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    The Death Penalty: Legal or not?

    I support it but only for crimes such as Rape, Child Molesters and Murder.(Self-defense is fine if they were about to get killed)

    As the above posters have said, most people who commit murder are going to stay there for life. To be honest I'd say some who are life long prisoners would rather get a lethal injection and just die instead of seeing themselves become old and eventually dieing.

    EDIT: I agree with kill dank, if the evidence is 100% true then the death penalty should be an option.
     
  15. Unread #8 - Mar 9, 2011 at 11:49 PM
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    The Death Penalty: Legal or not?

    I guess my answer is technically Yes, however I voted no.

    I only support the death penalty in VERY specific cases.

    I think the ideology behind the death penalty is that it should only be used in cases where by convicted criminals would still be considered a danger to society, and therefore need to be executed.

    Criminals that match this profile? Mafia leaders, terrorist leaders. People that have major influence and the real ability to really damage society on a relatively large scale.

    Life imprisonment is already an insane punishment. Some people would rather die than live the rest of their natural lives in prison.

    I think what I've stated would solve some of the problems in wrongful executions. The judicial process will always have it's flaws, it will always wrongfully convict people. HOWEVER reserving the death penalty for cases as stated above will most likely eradicate the chance of a false execution.


    Just my take.

    TL;DR No I do not support the death penalty as it stands in our current society. I only support it in extreme cases.
     
  17. Unread #9 - Mar 10, 2011 at 12:39 AM
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    The Death Penalty: Legal or not?

    I also believe that I think the Death Penalty should be legal, but only in certain cases.
    But SUF you bring up a very valid point that this is the final thing, unlike life in prison where DNA evidence can prove the innocence of certain people.
     
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    The Death Penalty: Legal or not?

    Long story but I seen an actual gallow in the basement of a jail. No it was not in use and yes it was at some point.
    As for the death penalty I support it in the most extreme of cases, as long as it is a humane death.

    I read of a pharmaceutical company that stopped producing a certain drug because the US was using it as a component of lethal injection. Even though this drug component was missing they still used lethal injections without it being an additive. The end result was pretty inhumane, though I don't recall whether it was a pain suppressor or an accelerant.
     
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    The Death Penalty: Legal or not?

    I don't support it really.
    The death penalty lets killers get off easy really, their suffering ends when it could be prolonged through life in prison, and even then they have a chance of being killed.

    Plus, if they're truly innocent at least they can live a life, even though it may not be what they'd want. I think life in prison is a much more severe punishment then death. I'd want to die every day if I knew my life would be spent in a concrete cell.
     
  23. Unread #12 - Mar 10, 2011 at 1:47 AM
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    The Death Penalty: Legal or not?

    What you guys have failed to address is the economic view of this. From this perspective:

    Death Penalty should be allowed because it is cheaper to kill (the ones that deserve it - I'm not one to determine who should and should not be killed) off criminals than to house than for a lifetime or extremely long period of time.

    Why are we wasting our own money (taxes) on housing criminals in jail when all they're going to do is rot their until death when we can kill them earlier and save money.

    *NOTE I am simply putting that argument out there - I am not saying let's go kill a bunch of innocent people :)
     
  25. Unread #13 - Mar 10, 2011 at 1:55 AM
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    The Death Penalty: Legal or not?

    well that was my thought. Our planet will eventually run out of shit to keep us all alive, so why should we waste it on those people?
     
  27. Unread #14 - Mar 10, 2011 at 1:58 AM
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    The Death Penalty: Legal or not?

    If your premise is that the death penalty should be allowed simply because it's cheaper, then you are clearly wrong.

    Not only do death penalty cases take 3-5 times longer than normal murder trials, the cost is not just tripled or quadrupled, it goes through the fucking roof. The amount of expert witnesses.

    It adds up to be in excess than that of life imprisonment.

    http://deathpenalty.procon.org/sour...Processing Murder Cases in North Carolina.pdf

    It's not what we've failed to address, it's what you've failed to realize.
     
  29. Unread #15 - Mar 10, 2011 at 2:00 AM
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    Yes for the death penalty. Reason: Population control
     
  31. Unread #16 - Mar 10, 2011 at 2:04 AM
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    The Death Penalty: Legal or not?

    Hardly an argument.

    Yes for genocide. Reason: Population control.

    Heck did you even think of this.

    Lets not prosecute murderers, so they'll go murder even more people!
    Idiot.
     
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    The Death Penalty: Legal or not?

    I think death can be a just punishment, also it would free up prisons slightly..
     
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    The Death Penalty: Legal or not?

    I'd like to say I support it, but I don't know. Seeing that, as posted above, the cost is more for the death penalty, I would rather the people that committed the crime rot in jail. I mean, how many people receive the death penalty each year, 2000? Not even 100 in the US. The arguments above stating that we need to save the Earth's resources are a stretch. The people killed all over the globe represent what, one three-millionth of the population? It's minimal.
     
  37. Unread #19 - Mar 10, 2011 at 4:27 PM
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    Which is proof beyond reasonable doubt, which most nations incorporate but sadly isn't the actual case.
     
  39. Unread #20 - Mar 10, 2011 at 5:12 PM
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    The Death Penalty: Legal or not?

    C'mon SuF, I thought I'd see a better thread title than "The Death Penlty: Legal or not?" Obviously legal in some locations and obviously not it other locations.

    But...all joking aside.

    I think that if the death penalty was legal it was pose a difficult scenario for multiple reasons. Foremost, I feel that the ethical line for which one has to cross over is fragile and vast. When I say vast I mean there is so many scenarios which one would pose as reasonable for the death penalty. It is a situation in which a jury would have to find the crime committed as terms for the death penalty - a situation which would seem near impossible because people's viewpoints are usually never the same. Now, personally, I think the death penalty should be inflicted for only the worst of crimes and likely only a accumulation of crimes.
     
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