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To me it really looks like the Illuminati or the Freemasons.
People who control the world and even more.
I think you can go very far with believing all these theories, it can even drive you mad. Let me do some more reading about this Bilderberg Group.
 
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To me it really looks like the Illuminati or the Freemasons.
People who control the world and even more.
I think you can go very far with believing all these theories, it can even drive you mad. Let me do some more reading about this Bilderberg Group.

The conclusion I have been wrestling with for a while now is none of these elite power groups is solely in control, but rather a number of them are battling for control.

The anglo-american media promotes this sort of rosy world in which the NATO forces and anglo-american affiliate organizations (IMF, world bank, etc) are the good guys and everyone else is just a terrorist in disgusie, who needs to be brought to justice.

Surely anyone can see this is a perverted media controlled by the anglo-american empire for and of it's own purposes. Newspapers, TV, radio licensing etc precludes the existence of any real freedom of the press, and where freedom of the press actually does exist (ie on the internet) it is being shut down through censorship.
 
Kind of like the North American Union, the European Union and the Asian Union's. I believe that it is one group of people, but they just have different names. I mean the richest of the rich belong in it, and the subordinates are in other smaller, less powerful groups.
 
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I've heard about this group before, but with it being secretive there's no real way of saying if and to what end the members shape policy. I'm not interested in the conspiracy theories because evidence seems pretty thin on the ground.

Anyway, as for the mainstream media; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_model. I stand by that :)

You claim that you are not interested in conspiracy theories, but you stand by the official conspiracy theory of 9/11, 7/7, Madrid bombings, etc. So really you are not interested in conspiracy theories which differ in some way from the mainstream.

All other things aside, it is not the class of theory but the substance of its claim that must be rationally analyzed. Indeed, given The Propaganda Model theory the need for reason in all things is even more greatly evident.
 
You claim that you are not interested in conspiracy theories, but you stand by the official conspiracy theory of 9/11, 7/7, Madrid bombings, etc. So really you are not interested in conspiracy theories which differ in some way from the mainstream.

I'm not interested in the conspiracy theories concerning the Bilderberg Group because they are largely speculative, that's all.

9/11 was perpetrated by terrorists, there are videos of Osama and his subordinates with Osama saying he did it. We know who the hijackers were, there is evidence from airport employees and everything. It doesn't make sense for the Bush Administration to have risked their own necks by blowing the towers up.

All other things aside, it is not the class of theory but the substance of its claim that must be rationally analyzed. Indeed, given The Propaganda Model theory the need for reason in all things is even more greatly evident.

Can you rephrase that? It doesn't make much sense to me.
 
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I'm not interested in the conspiracy theories concerning the Bilderberg Group because they are largely speculative, that's all.

9/11 was perpetrated by terrorists, there are videos of Osama and his subordinates with Osama saying he did it. We know who the hijackers were, there is evidence from airport employees and everything. It doesn't make sense for the Bush Administration to have risked their own necks by blowing the towers up.

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I've seen this before. There are plenty of potential sources for the spherules, including flyash from the concrete the towers were made of, torch-cutting after the collapse, magnetic printer toner in cartridges/on paper/in printers in the towers.

Anyway, this thread isn't about 9/11.
 
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I've seen this before. There are plenty of potential sources for the spherules, including flyash from the concrete the towers were made of, torch-cutting after the collapse, magnetic printer toner in cartridges/on paper/in printers in the towers.

Anyway, this thread isn't about 9/11.

Can you explain the thermite chips? And can you explain these spheres being in all of the 9/11 dust, including that which landed miles away?

These explanations get wilder and wilder everyday. How far back will you move the goalposts next? This is not a rational reaction to hard evidence. This is a religious reaction. Consider carefully the road you are taking.
 
scene were talking about 9/11 I want to get the off my chest. I think it was an inside job.... maybe the person who owned the world trade center Larry Silverstein wanted to build something new cause the WTC was very expensive to operate, supping O2, laying down Ethernet wire, removing all the asbestos, and other deadly outdated stuff. so Larry Silverstein wanted to remove the WTC quickly but blasting (blowing up) is against the law in New York, so they may have placed tons of termite and possible explosives in the form of shape charges, in the WTC destroying the building and than collecting the insurance. but now the question is who helped him.
 
Off topic- Larry Silverstein i believed was in couldn't pay for the WTC, and blowing up the WTC was a way out

On topic- It surprises me that Bill gates wife goes, but not himself, nor does warren buffen goes, those 2 (in my opinion) are the most powerful men in the world.
 
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On topic- It surprises me that Bill gates wife goes, but not himself, nor does warren buffen goes, those 2 (in my opinion) are the most powerful men in the world.

Are you kidding? Those two are smallfries compared to half the people on that list. The rockerfellers and the rothchilds are exceptionally wealthy. Don't forget the royals.
 
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