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Would you like this to be implemented?

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  1. Unread #21 - Feb 12, 2018 at 4:37 PM
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    Sounds like this idea holds a lot of potential, support. Obviously, prices, rules and guidelines might need some refinement but it would be quite nice to see such project become a thing.
     
  3. Unread #22 - Feb 12, 2018 at 5:08 PM
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    Sounds like one of the better sythe golf suggestions I’ve heard so far.
     
  5. Unread #23 - Feb 12, 2018 at 5:43 PM
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    This is one of the best suggestions yet, and it's so simple to implement. Please don't pay attention to any crybabies who would rather the forum dwindle into nonexistence than their precious miniranks depreciating in value if the above rewards stay consistent. This idea would actually promote forum activity and finally give use to Sythe gold which is a commodity on this forum that's effectively worthless yet is still given out as prizes for events as if it would encourage people to participate.
     
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  7. Unread #24 - Feb 12, 2018 at 5:57 PM
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    Edited main post for current revision ideas and added a poll. If you have any suggestions or ideas, please don’t hesitate to have a say.

    @Sythe All this would need is your approval and nothing more. The rest could be handled at a lower level. Wouldn’t start this immediately as more input/changes would need to be hashed out.
     
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  9. Unread #25 - Feb 12, 2018 at 6:09 PM
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    This is a pretty good idea tbh and I support this. I think some rewards can be changed like the fun rank.

    If you can spin several times per day then the rewards should be of lower quality and harder to win. If you can spin once a day then having better quality rewards makes sense.

    I diced my SG because like who cares??? and lost it to the scumbag @Dunworry but if something like this was implemented, I would have never diced that pathetic fish monger @Dunworry my valuable SG.
     
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  11. Unread #26 - Feb 12, 2018 at 6:24 PM
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    This is a cool way of giving the gamblers of Sythe a chance to utilize their Sythe gold, which has been a long time coming.

    Gonna show my support, but hopefully some better prizes can be thought up. Not sure I agree with the funrank giveaway, because of what @Void said.
     
  13. Unread #27 - Feb 12, 2018 at 6:24 PM
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    I support but you have to prove it’s a sink

    So get estimates on the SG value of each prize then calculate expectation value for the game and show its less than the cost to play
     
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  15. Unread #28 - Feb 12, 2018 at 6:30 PM
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    I don't support funrank being a prize, atleast not for that low, maybe like 10-15k sythe gold with the other variable you had in mind. Everything else looks promising.
     
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  17. Unread #29 - Feb 12, 2018 at 6:39 PM
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    Support. Would be a great way to use Sythe gold and finally get those poke miniranks out there on the market.

    Might be reaching with this but maybe we could even have a cash prize somewhere in there. I think this would give those who could careless about miniranks a chance to want to play.
     
  19. Unread #30 - Feb 12, 2018 at 6:41 PM
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    Easy enough.

    There are 4 prizes that gives SG directly (expected to be reused again to play the wheel). The highest prize of 500 SG (could change) is good for 2 extra spins

    If we calculate just alone the possibility of landing on 4 of 25 brackets, you’d have a 16% chance of getting gold in return. There is only one bracket in which you’d gain more than you put in to spin, and that’d be B21, and you have a 4% chance to land on that (not counting the possibility of landing on a respin to which the possibility is increased slightly). This means the chance in which you wouldn’t gain more than you put in is at 88% (also accounting for respin potential).

    Other rewards could indirectly lead to gaining more SG through trades, but the formula still stands that you’re expected to lose more so than win. To control volume, spins would be limited to once per day.

    Tl;dr: Output potential of SG through this is slim, and even though you would be able to gain SG indirectly, this doesn’t mean “new” SG would be introduced, but rather circulated more in trades.
     
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  21. Unread #31 - Feb 12, 2018 at 6:52 PM
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    B5 & B14 have been edited to reflect being able to spin once per day. This should also help control the volume of participants and rewards handed out.
     
  23. Unread #32 - Feb 12, 2018 at 7:06 PM
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    Add some fun shit.

    Consumable miniranks -->
    Ban someone from the spam forum for a couple hours.
    Change their avatar/username/ut/signature/etc. within the SF and DL for a certain time.
    50% bump time reduction for 1 day.
    Extra name change, or free name change.

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    $1, 5, and $10 donation credits (uncommon, rare, very rare)
    A very rare wheel-specific fun rank would serve as a great sink

    Seasonal prizeboxes (Christmas box which has an x% chance of a limited edition seasonal prize.) It doesn't have to be rare, because 90% of the prizes could be small amounts of Sythe gold. I like the idea of prizebox fragments as a junk prize, where you could combine Sythe gold and a bunch of fragments for a regular prizebox.

    A loot system where you open 2-4 prizes. Most of them will be [12 Sythe Gold], [ prizebox fragment], [other worthless stuff] where one of the options has a normal chance of the regular wheel spins and the others have a low chance of being a non-garbage prize. This could also exist as a bonus round where you're able to open a few prizes at once. (These kind of things play onto gambling psychology)

    Obviously not all of these are great/implementable ideas. Just getting the ball rolling. Perks like these are guaranteed to be gold sinks rather than hoping you don't end up generating more with Sythe gold prizes.
     
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  25. Unread #33 - Feb 12, 2018 at 7:31 PM
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    Yeah would like a table of equivalent average sythe gold value for each possible result
     
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  27. Unread #34 - Feb 12, 2018 at 8:18 PM
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    Love the idea, just need a better variety of prizes.
    • fun rank for a day or 2 or week(if possible) instead of perm
    • sythe rsps ingame stuff(if they are going to finish it) require user to have rsps account before winning roll(?) to prevent user of giving it to someone else
    • Win 100-1k sythe gold that you have to gift to someone else (require the user to have a certain join date -3months?)
    • bankrupt sythe gold XD
    • jackpot sythe gold
    Not a prize on the wheel but how about a "wheel of fortune" minirank for playing the games consecutively 7 days?
    much like the spam forum participant minirank
     
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  29. Unread #35 - Feb 12, 2018 at 9:13 PM
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    100 dice rolls. Only twice does it roll on 21 (1000 SG gain). If you match the results to the corresponding brackets, there is a lot more loss than actually winning. I’ve changed some rewards as well for balancing purposes. The table you ask for, I wouldn’t know how to make considering you can’t put a number on something with no value (e.g null & randomized rewards).
     
  31. Unread #36 - Feb 12, 2018 at 9:21 PM
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    I like the idea of prizebox fragments. The other ideas you mentioned would be either hard to do manually or too much of a bother (annoyance, e.g. banning someone for an hour or do). Making this user friendly as possible should be the goal.

    How many fragments would = a prizebox?

    Since this would be done manually, temporary ranks would be annoying to give/take away and there will be inconsistencies in that. I like the idea of gifting your reward to someone else. RSPS related stuff would need to be hashed through the CDT after it’s fully released.
     
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  35. Unread #38 - Feb 12, 2018 at 11:24 PM
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    This would give people a reason to log into sythe more often :D
     
  37. Unread #39 - Feb 13, 2018 at 1:44 AM
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    All of this except maybe the first two would be pretty easy to implement actually. Most of the entire suggestion could be easily automated as well. There's no point in making this manually administrated as you keep suggesting. The OP suggestion (especially the prize structure.) as it stands is pretty lame and unnecessarily complicated. Scrap the wheel and go with a lootbox with prizes that have drop rates.

    I would go with like 5 or 10 would work for the fragment idea. But 50-100 would also be cool under an automated system.
     
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  39. Unread #40 - Feb 13, 2018 at 3:37 AM
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    Price would be to high to spin it, how would you actually obtain enough sythe gold to spin it (atleast a few times)
     
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