Sythe Statue of Limitations

This, honestly. Although this is a good idea, the conversation is going in the same direction that kind of sparked the pardon idea. The main problem with this is that people will try to hide their mistakes, instead of telling people. If people come out and admit things, they should be forgiven. With a system like this in place, they would just try to hide the mistakes until the two years were up so that they would be free.

 

This idea was particularly for other sites. Not coming to Sythe, scamming, and getting away with it 2 years later.

I met this for more of a:
Someone joins Sythe
A year they scammed someone on Powerbot
Report is brought to light
User is banned, but has yet to be accused of anything on Sythe.

 

As long as it was a small one-off mistake type thing (a few cases on this website people were pardoned for) and a large enough timeframe where people have had oppurtunity of character reform, then it sounds alright. JaGeX I believe did a thing similar and unbanned a lot of legacy bans back in 2006.
@ people saying the pardon system effectively covers this: I don't think the pardon system is sufficient with this sort of thing, as I have seen users who scammed something small years ago punished with a TwC...

 

What happens if 'person x' scams on say PowerBot (to stick with the example) and then sells the stolen goods on Sythe. How does the statue of limitations factor into that?

 

Well incase you haven't noticed I've gotten myself into a similar predicament. In my case I had done something over 3 and 1/2 years ago that wasn't related to sythe and had to do with offsite activities (if you want more details click sig) well anyways I guess I understand the point of view from the individuals perspective I get that you shouldn't go unpunished but the fact of the matter is that would a punishment now really teach me anything. I have obviously I've learned my lesson in between now and when the crime was commited and at that time it wasn't a crime. Think of it like how you can't be punished for certain crime after an alloted amount of time. Obviously this shouldn't be the case for all situations but if the member shown that they have changed in character and that they contribute to the community I feel that they should be offered a second chance. I also feel that the TWC title should only be given if they are considered a dangerous individual at the time it is given. If you get a twc from a thing you did 5 years back that title is reflecting your character from 5 years ago, is this right?

I know my opinion is obviously biased but you tell me should your infractions reflect who you are as a person today or who you were 5 years ago?

 

And if you were caught when you fist did phish? You would of been banned 3 years ago and never had your chance to prove that you can be helpful. It's not fair that you can slip under the radar for 3 years and get away with murder, when if you were caught, you would of have been banned. You should get some punishment at least, like all the other people did.

 

Cosrob I see what your saying but had you read my pardon I explained that I never really got anywhere with my attempt and in all reality it did no harm to others. Plus cosrob back then I wouldn't have even been punished because offsite activities weren't a rule back then...

 

I wish we'd stop getting the comparison to "murder." Murder is no where near the same playing field.

I don't believe there's a statue of limitation on murder.

Things that are VERY severe wouldn't have this statue on it.

Nearly all jobs involving a high amount of trust require a lie detector test.
Also, if you were to apply to get a "Secret Clearance" you are required to take one.

I don't know about you, but I don't plan on spending my entire life working at a McDonalds.


If you're not going to post regarding the topic at hand, don't post.

 

I agree on this.
For EXAMPLE, NOT TRUE.
I scam a pin, for 3$.
6months later, the guy reports me.
Shouldn't be allowed.
If the guy who I scammed really cared, he would have reported it asap.

Once again, what I stated above is NOT true, I did NOT scam a pin or 4$. Was just an example.


But yes, I totally agree. Statue of Limitations should be set. But more severe on different cases.

Under 10$ scam, 2months
11-50, 3 months
51 - 100, 6months
101+ never.
(Of course the months can be changed, as well the the $ amount, etc)

Just my opinion.

I do know that petty theft has a 3 year wait period before it's ex-sponged.

 

Never heard of that before :O and I went to a University in the Uk for a while and they definately don't do it there O_O

 

I think jobs where you can potentially hold sensitive information require lie detector tests like banks, high clearance government jobs, etc..

edit:sorry If my posts werent on topic just trying to explain things to others

 

I think for offsite activites A TWC should be issued...just my 2 cents...

 

No support. This is what high pardons are for. If someone stole something two years ago and comes clean to it, then they will probably be pardoned.

 

Gotta do the time if you do the crime.

 

Hey guys, sorry about being a bit slow on this one, but yeah im still new and there's lots of stuff for me to look up haha xD
I agree that there should be some form of threshold for impending penalties on guilty members; and conversely accept that in doing so, comes the risk of allowing potential scammers to freely disrupt fair trading.
So what we have here is this 'Statute of Limitations' having its own limitations (hint the irony).
My suggestion to this is to modify it in a way - a Statute of Repose perhaps.
Wikipedia defines this as such,
...A statute of repose, in contrast to a statute of limitations, "is designed to bar actions after a specified period of time has run from the occurrence of some event other than the injury which gave rise to the claim."...

To put it simply - there is no removal or deterring of punishment for offences committed so and so months/years/etc ago.
Eg, A scammer; once caught (regardless of offence), will NOT be unbanned (or similar; with exception to given pardons) simply because perhaps 2 years have passed since the date of occurrence.

HOWEVER; What this does is place a limit on the time allowed for other members of the community/staff/victims to take action on the accused.
Eg, A member scams another for a $3 membership pin. The other member takes NO action for the time being. Six months later, he/she decides to raise the alarm. >>> Do you guys feel this is fair? <<<

So anyways, what do you guys feel about this one?

 

Irl there is the statue of limitations as well.
You make no sense.

What if I chargebacked 50 cents for this guy buying my junk, and it happened a year ago.
And in that time I've done over 10k in trades all clean.
Should I be banned?

 

Agree.

 

If you scam off site, you should get action taken against you. Not just a TWC.