[SYTHE / N4N0] Decision on restitutions please

This is true. I had been apart of the chat for a couple of weeks, or maybe a month, before any of this even went down. Many members just came in randomly, like myself, and found that this was happening. If this is relevant to the case or not is unknown to me as I don't know particulars of each case, but it is something to keep in mind while deciding.

Also, the numbers you threw out there are fairly arbitrary, can you tell us on how you decided what each offense is worth? At this point it just seems like an exorbitant amount of punitive damages to keep members from actually returning to the site, which is the opposite of what is needed.

 

I've visited Facebook pages of countless staff members and users who don't know that I know their Facebook. If they wanted stuff private, they'd set it to private. There's nothing wrong with looking up information on someone or just following them on social media - it's what it's there for. If he released information then sure, but I don't believe AJL ever released any details on you.

We don't necessarily need your approval to get granted a pardon, why would people kiss your ass just to get approved? I personally apologized and tried to become civil with you so that drama wouldn't go on between us in the future, and it seems to have worked (and because I was truly sorry). You shouldn't consider it "ass kissing", because it wasn't. It was two adults sorting out their differences.

 

1. Nobody knew your accounts were hacked until it happened, I know for sure hattez was invited into the skype chat after I was so I doubt he even knew what was going on until he opened the links.
2. Honesty in pardons, and if the information wasn't to be spread a mod/admin should have deleted it, it seems more like a case of lack of due diligence than anything else.
3. Who cares, you banned him from team speak. N4n0 used to abuse laptop to the point where he might have committed suicide. Don't be such a little bitch you always act like a hard ass then get butt hurt over insults.
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5. http://www.sythe.org/13525942-post7.html n4n0 started the insults yet again due to his lack of professionalism.
6. You kept giving him the opportunity to get himself in deeper shit until you could finally get rid of him.
7. He got his punishment I don't see whats wrong with banning him from the server.
8. Pretty weird how only n4n0 and josh who both are defending your side heavily only have access to this information, why was it not pmed to a neutral mod like firez who could have posted it in the staff lounge.
9. I think 4 out of all those members are banned on sythe? I actually only see alex_j_leon on there who has some ties to the hackers, the rest of those people didn't hack your email and a lot of them weren't even banned so I don't see what your point is... A lot of people still talk to banned members including staff.

I don't think hattez invited anyone to the chat, or atleast he didn't while I was there. If you have logs of skype showing he invited people then you can say it but until then you're still trying to cover up the truth. Up until this point I've never heard anyone say hattez was actively inviting people and distributing the pictures, the worst he did was make fun of them.

I hope you guys actually read his pardon because a lot of what you're saying is contradicting what he wrote, especially the part about showing no remorse when he's clearly said it in every pardon.

 

I can SAY anything I want but that doesn't make it so. N4N0 makes his own sound judgement. If what you say is true then I could have "influenced" him in all aspects of his leadership roll for more than 5 years. So, that theory is trumped. Regardless if I am his girlfriend or not, the facts are what they are and everyone in my position shouldn't be threatened in any way. Which is why I support that the whole community should have the same fair ruling on their behalf should this happen to you.

 

You only started influencing shit since last year and everyone can see the changes that have taken place during your time here and over his leadership.

 

Your gut feeling is irrelevant.

You aren't getting my approval for a pardon since I have ZERO influence on anyone's pardon. As I stated before, if this were the case then I would have had my hand in it for more than 5 yrs.

If you took what I said out of context and directly applied it to yourself, then that is your fault. I was speaking about AMM.

 

You haven't been actively involved for 5 years, so that doesn't matter.

And you're saying your opinion has no influence on nano's judgement? Come on, Trin.

 

You specifically said "he's the only one who didn't", which would imply that every other person did (I was another person involved, so the way you said it would refer to me as well).

 

N4n0 and I have been best friends for years. Why are you trying to grasp at straws? Furthermore, I was USED to ruffle your jimmies as Sythe mentioned he knew what was going on and he felt it was harmless. Trolling a bunch of kids and adults does not equate to hacking personal accounts and releasing the information.

 

You're taking what Richard said out of context. He said he knew Ryan giving you ranks was a bad idea but he let him do it anyway so that the community would have backlash and he'd learn that way. He never said anything about your trolling or agreeing with anything you did.

 

Did I not ask you that was the reason why you came to me?

 

Yes, but it was not to kiss your ass and I never said that. I came to you because I wanted to be civil with the person that runs the site so that drama wouldn't spew in the future between us.

 

Sythe runs this site, not me. I was directly impacted and so was N4N0. Shouldn't you be going to N4N0 to apologize not just me for your actions? It's about making amends with those you've harmed. I don't have any beef with you, so why are you making it out to be?

 

I did make amends with n4n0. If you read the OP of this, you'd see that we were having a nice civil chat before he brought this up over my head and made me block him. I have absolutely no respect for him, nor do I trust him - especially after he brings this up and tries to get money out of me.

You run this site and there's no way around it. That's why people come in TS to talk to you, because they want to be on your good side. N4n0s leadership has changed drastically since you joined (maybe because we put pressure on him, but mostly because of you I would say).

 

It is the same thing that happened with Finn and IRC. If you hung out in IRC and made yourself known to Finn and his co-horts you got mod or special privileges. The difference is that Finn knew how to effectively cover his ass by covering up the situation and manipulating people. There has been too much backlash now over this entire situation to cover it all up and try to manipulate people. Almost the entire active community has had their say about this and it isn't good.

 

While we're here, please give Roary more authority and listen to him. He knows what he's doing more than the admin in question and he actually does admin duties other than dealing with bans for his mess.

 

Wow this whole situation is ridiculous, so similar to the reign of Finn. How can n4n0 start demanding payment even though Dial was already pardoned and not made to pay back? And Trin you denying any influence over n4n0's decisions is bullshit

 

I was on this site long before shit went down in December. Isn't there enough holes in your theory already about me "running this site and influencing N4N0"? He didn't try to get money out of you, Richard said it. Go to Richard about it. Stop trying to make this out that N4N0 is chasing you down for money that Richard chose to put on each person that Richard felt were eligible to return to the site.

People don't come on the TeamSpeak to be on my "good side" and I sure hope that's not the case, especially since it's open to anyone who wants to join as long as they follow the rules. I can care less what you all do as long as you want to just chill and talk about random shit and gaming, predominantly about gaming. But, I can honestly say, after the shit that I've gone through--I have not ran away with my tail between my legs and just simply held my ground in the Spam Forum.

What are those "Admin duties" that you speak of? Roary has known all about all of this long beforehand but he did nothing to squash it but let it look like n4n0 is this horrible person.

 

Roary is the only administrator that does anything. Matthew is MIA, N4n0 only deals with bans related to this situation, and Richard is a busy guy.

N4n0 is this horrible person, Roary didn't have to do anything to make that known.

 

Again, what are these "Admin duties" that you speak of?

It's him doing nothing is what made it look like he is a horrible person. You seem to think that all of the mods know what's going on at all times. You seem to think that all of the globals knows what's going on. Sad fact, that is never the case. Miscommunication between the staff has always been problematic. Blaming N4N0 doesn't change this fact.