Support of NASA

As you all should know, the United States has always supported NASA (The Space Organization). But now I come to question this...Why does the USA take millions and even billions of dollars out of regular citizen's (by taxes) pocket-money? Give me one good reason why they have done the right thing, and discovered something useful to the people on Earth. Yes, maybe they can eventually get people living on the moon, but we've already accomplished that, why do we keep wasting money on Mars and other planets. They have already deemed it impossible to host life on there. I think we should cut ties altogether with NASA, and make them go private, or at least reduce it to a maximum of 1 million dollars a year from an accumulated tax.

Comments? Bring it on let's go .

 

its called research.

^ one good reason.

 

What is the research for.....money that could go to homeless people, instead goes to space research. But what have they really actually done? Nothing...no benefit to the american people at all.

 

You are right, NASA funding dollars are wasted on what can be used to solve problems on this planet. Once you solve world hunger, destroy poverty, and eliminate inflation, than go into space and find other planets to live on. For now, get back on earth

 

lol your all horribly wrong nasa has brought us so many things look at your computer, you wouldnt be sitting here if it wasnt for nasa you would ethier not have a pc or be running around a 100 foot building making it run.

 

You do realize that virtually all of the progress made in computers was made after the industry was privatized, right?

 

nasa is not only for living on the moon it also finds comets coming towards earth and i think we should give them just about enough money to do that

 

Yeah but we give much more than just for comets. And tell me how many comets we've seen and then how many of THAT even got close to being a danger to the Earth.

 

It is for the benefit of mankind. Man always wants to explore his domain, and we have already explored most of Earth, so now we take to the skies. Moving further into space can also solve many questions like why we are here, and if there are other life forms in the Universe. How can you not be curious about that?

 

Homeless people,you have to be kidding me.

 

This is not serious disscusion....

 

Taking money from individuals against their will is always immoral, regardless of your curiosity about the heavens.

 

Darren, If it wasn't for tax payers the world would be where it is now.

 

You're what, 15 years old? Maybe? And yet you claim to have been around longer by suggesting that seeing a meterorite come near the earth and threatening its existence is possible? Seriously, when you're half the age of the earth, tell me you've not seen it and then I'll believe you.

Shredder, it is immoral, but oh well. It was funded because it was exploration. We MUST know everything about our universe, to protect ourselves from other issues. And Number 21, how do you feel about the department of defence?

Seriously, NASA is part of the department, they protect us from other worldly things by keeping us aware. If NASA weren't around, or funded, then there would be issues.


And to your thing about Mars, Stem Cell Research suggests that there's life out there, possibly even on the moon. Why stop now? We could probably recreate an other worldly being from a time before the earth existed?



Stop being so self centered about your fucking money, and focus on the progression of man kind you nitwit.


You too shredder, just because it's "immoral" and "Doesn't benefit you now" You seriously think anyone gives a shit? You'd be better off dead, because apparently you care none for the future of mankind. It's people like you that fail at life, because when you're older you'll realize that future generations could have had it better if you just put a little attention in to making it so.


E: And Number 21, a million dollars may seem like a lot of money to you, but that's not even an 20th of what they need. A Shuttle alone costs upward of 8 billion dollars. Oh, and the water you drink? The water you hold so true to your sodas and such? They are refined in plants that cost around 4 billion dollars. So understand money before ya speak, mmk?

 

Regardless of whether or not you "need" that money (you don't), it is my money, and not yours to take. You have no right to it.

"Mankind", as a group, does not actually exist. It is nothing more than the sum of the individuals who compose it. Thus what you are implying is that the majority may sacrifice the minority for the greater good. This is completely immoral! Such collectivism relies on completely arbitrary lines drawn in the sand, unscientifically, and irrationally!

I certainly do. Does the fact that the majority of people might not make my position immoral?

This is madness. I am a person, and I have a right to life. I have a right to my possessions. Whatever your intentions are, whatever you strive for regarding the future, you are proposing stealing, something that is completely intolerable in any moral system.

 

Stop focusing on our money Deacon? You tell Shredder that hes a dimwit and that he has to pay attention to "mankind." But who the HELL are you to say what is and isn't right amongst our group.

What's has the US' government done for its people? Oh, by god lots of things. Lets see, start a multi-billion dollar war, higher taxes, gas prices, social security decrease, and lowered healthcare availability. Sounds to me like WE need the money more than they do. The government is spending too much on useless, unimportant tasks. They waste our money, and have proven it over and over again.

Also, THE UNITED STATES IS NOT MANKIND. You keep saying that look after mankind, and don't pay attention to yourself. Well we need to watch out for ourselves right now, there is no one who will care. We give money to them, and it barely does a thing for us directly. Mankind does not yet need a new planet to live on, or to meet a new form of life. What we need is a working, fair, and supportive government/s. You cannot speak for mankind because you fail to see what is truly needed. And you think we truly need to discover the rest?

Our life is centered around the very mortality of our bodies. We live, then die. How come we have to support the rest of the world, and THEN try to discover more BEYOND the world? Mars, the moon, any planet. We do not need a new home planet or life source right now or in the near future!

So, Deacon, do not say that he is selfish or a dimwit when you yourself are too stupid to see what is truly important. THE PRESENT. When the time comes, we will expand. But as for now, don't try to say we need to. The U.S. has supported every country around the world, and has helped countless.

My closing statement is thus. Deacon, if you can't see that we are not responsible for the rest of the world, and that the people of America suffer because of taxes and ways of income for the government who has done nothing but bad things for us. Well then, sir, YOU are the dimwit, YOU are stubborn, and YOU are naive.

 

First off, that's amazing. And yes I completely think that NASA should not be in the defense organization. Name me ONE thing that they have protected us from in the history of humanity. Name one please. And let me remind you, what have we progressed? How many lives have we lost because of our stupidity. Progression my ass. We have progressed so far that we haven''t even solved our own problems here on Earth. What are we doing? We know we can't go to Mars....concentrate on Global Warming, or the Petroleum crap happening. If you want to pay for nothing, be my guest.

 

Global Warming's a fucking conspiracy. Scientists in Australia proved that the temperature has DROPPED over the past 100 years.

NASA actually has developed some of the high tech nuclear subs we use in the NAVY, from what I've been told. Their space engineered stuff is the highest technology the military has (in public eye) and is used from weaponry to, like i said, submarines.

They don't just do space stuff dude, that's their main focus, but the research and everything that they do does help the world. Not to mention, new laws of the universe are being created by astronomers. They gave us proof that the earth wasn't flat. They've demonstrated physics on the moon, and given us even more mathematics to work with.


Not to mention, you're pretty dumb if you think that we can fix the issues on earth? You know why we can't? Because everyone has their own fucking opinions, and are idiots. That's why. Everyone who's stubborn needs to shut the fuck up and give up on life and let the people who are actually working make progression..

Your kind of thinking "Cut NASA's funding" is because you feel they don't do enough. Right, Nasa developed some of the world's greatest airplanes. They've got some of the most sophisticated technology/programs in the world, because of their funding.

Sure, you don't see another nickle or dime? But who the fuck are you? It's not you that matters, it's the future of man. Learn to respect the one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind. It may not help you, but it will do great wanders in the future.

 

Ok since you have a load of things that I can easily counter, I'll do it in chronological order.

1) Global Warming is not a conspiracy, it is proven by scientists in MORE THAN just the country Australia that the ice caps are melting.

2) That's so great that they could make high tech subs, because in 25 years we won't even be using those subs since we have NO PETROLEUM. So that's amazing they wasted billions of dollars making something that won't be used much of at all.

3) They proved that the Earth wasn't flat? They gave us moon crap? That's done us a WHOLE lot of good hasn't it? I mean knowing about the moon and earth....really worth billions of dollars. After 50 years of paying huge bills, it hasn't been wasted on us! Some stupid research on the earth and moon! (Sarcasm)

4) Developed airplanes that now cannot be used because of no oil....

5) This has no future. NASA will never discover anything amazing. They can't even get out of the solar system after trillions of accumulated dollars have gone into it.

 

What do you think would happen if taxes weren't forced upon the people? Yes, that's right, no one would pay them. And what would happen if the government is broke? No military, no roads, etc. The economy would collapse.

What you fail to take into account is the selfishness of humans. Most people would rather contribute to their own well being than to society.