Stem-Cell Research

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Stem-Cell Research
  1. Unread #21 - Jan 16, 2008 at 2:04 PM
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    The odd tumor has been reported when growing the embryonic stem cells into organs, true, but once they're inserted into the body, they're fine.

    To be honest, I just can't help but feel that you're just championing placental stem cells over embryonic stem cells because of the lack of ethical issues. But perhaps I'm wrong.

    The link that you provided earlier said that placental stem cells "have much of the same flexibility as embryonic stem cells". This implies that they cannot do everything that embryonic stem cells can.
     
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    T'is better than waiting forever for approval of something which will never be approved by society, thus never given the OK by the government lawmakers, like i said, go around the wall instead of running into it or waiting for a magical door to open so you can get a thumbs up

    "Much of the same Flexibility" good enough for me seeing as if research was done in those areas of similarity, the same results will outcome from it and there will be no bounding of research. Heck, i'm all down for Embryonic Stem Cell Research, i'm just giving the other side of the arguement as to a better alternative for those whom have high moral and ethical standards.

    Can look at it like this;
    Embryonic Stem Cells have the capabilities to do much, with minute 'complications', and is looked down upon to a good majority.

    Placental Stem Cells have many of the same capabilities as Embryonic Stem Cells, have none of the 'complications' so to speak, and has a thumbs up already.

    Both have issues, but each has a different set of issues that has to be dealt with and/ore to be coped with until everything has been sorted out.
     
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    Actually, embryonic stem cell research is extremely popular around Washington. Congress just cannot summon the votes to override Bush's veto of it.

    Oh, I agree with you there. While embryonic stem cell research remains illegal, placental stem cell research can hardly hurt.

    I honestly thought you were a firm opponent of embryonic stem cell research, due to the ethical issues. That's primarily why I was arguing with you there.
     
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    Stem cell research should be allowed. If we dont allow it then all of the fetus's will go to waste and that would be worse than killing the embryos in my opinion.
     
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    the baby dosent have to be dead , envilicle cords and placentas have them dont they?
     
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    First, it's not a baby.

    Second, those sources are not quite as flexible as embryonic stem cells.
     
  13. Unread #27 - Jan 17, 2008 at 9:34 AM
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    lol now the topics goin to embryonic cells or placental cells...

    i haven't really looked into the difference between the two

    thank god bush is almost gone....then maybe people could come to an agreement...
     
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    it can benifit thpeople, whats wtong with that?
     
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    I am totally for this, one of the reasons is my dad does it and if it goes out of business so does he and then i am no longer rich :( also if they say your killing a child;
    1: they arnt even physicaly human yet
    2: who cares we are allready over populated.

    EDIT: The stem cell skin cells have to be injected with 4 different horomones and one of the 4 is directly linked to causing cancer, so skin cell stem cells are completly thrown out the window because they cause cancer, the cord stem cells have different properties than the emberonic stem cells. Finally there are around one million frozen bodies in storage waiting to be put back into the mother, she has 6 months do deside if she wants the baby or not, if she doesnt they throw them away which is a waist because instead of throwing them away you should put them to use.
     
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    They could use parts from the embryo without killing anyone or keeping them from being born, right? It would help alot of people, who end up like Christopher Reeve or Michael J. Fox.
     
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    It has been done, but with dubious effects to the embryo. I'm not sure if it could grow up to be perfectly normal.
     
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    my opinion:

    find another way of getting/extracting stem cells from something eles besides a fetus then all of the contraversies would be settled for starters.
     
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    That's where the best ones come from, though.
     
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    mutate the other kinds to fit the ones from a fetus

    or find a way to duplicate stem cell like scienctist duplicate DNA
     
  29. Unread #35 - Jan 26, 2008 at 5:14 PM
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    You can't just mutate cells at will. It's much more complex than that.

    It's a huge step to go from duplicating DNA to duplicating cells.
     
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    yes but its not impossible
     
  33. Unread #37 - Jan 26, 2008 at 5:26 PM
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    If Bush is against it, I'm for it.

    It would be great if stem-cells could be taken from aborted babies. Then none would have to die otherwise. Also, maybe scientists could control births better, artificially creating babies. :p
     
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    It's inviable to the degree where just taking stem cells from fetuses would be easier.
     
  37. Unread #39 - Jan 26, 2008 at 7:33 PM
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    but it would be legal in america, and all the contraversies would be over so it would e worth it
     
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    People want an answer now, not 10 years down the road. No self-respecting research facility would consider that.
     
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