Politics : The downfall of our society

Well, i shall point out some basic stuff that i have noticed with the presidential election past.

1) You have to have money to run. No matter how good you are, if you do not have the money you are fucked. Why is this bad? We get someone that is bought out by the industries.

2) Political parties. I really have no problem with them, but i hate the people that vote mainly on the fact that "This guy is a democrat!" "This guy is a republican!" Okay, first off don't vote for stupid reasons. This is why the electoral college was put into place. To weed out the dumbass votes. As George Washington had warned, "Political parties will be the end to this country" So is it tearing us apart, therefor leading to the destruction of this country?

3) Not really politics, but has something to do with it : Ban of gay marriage. Did we not just allow the blacks the right to vote, along with women less than a hundred years ago? Have the people not learned anything yet? Since when do you have the authority to tell someone who they can marry or not.

4) For you English people : I saw on the news this morning that a 13 year old in england must have a heart transplant in order to survive. However, she refuses to get it. The government is going to do one of several things : make her have it, by law. or take the child away from the parents. This takes away the childs right to free death, atleast in america. Now, i did not get the whole story seeing how it was the last couple minutes of it. So, if you have any corrections or add-ons, politely tell me please

 

Yes, true.
No one really listens to the politics anymore,
especially this election, it was pure racism,
Obama was black, therefore many black people voted for him.
This falls under your "stupid reasons to vote".
Pople need to start listening to what they have to say, and what they plan to do.

 

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Downfall of our society? Has something changed recently? People have been indoctrinated and have voted for stupid reasons for a long time.

 

I know it has been like this forever, but this election really made me open my eyes to it.

"Don't vote Obama, he's black!" etc, etc.

Maybe an I.Q test for voters?

 

Agreed,
This was probably one of the most important elections,
but at the same time more racist,
Wow he's black, what exactly is he going to do to us since he's black again?
Tell me for those of you members on sythe who are racsist,
whats so bad about a "black person"?
If you can give me a good reason, ill "think" into it.

 

Truly, if politics is to continue existing, which, logically speaking, it shouldn't, we should be allowed to vote for who we see fit. If Joe down the street has an ideology that I like, but it doesn't fall under the main political parties, and he doesn't want to run under one, why shouldn't I be allowed to vote for him. I shouldn't have the choice between A or B or C(In Canada), or A or B (In USA). I should have the choice of who I think will most logically support what I believe in, or I should run.
Who should stop me from running for president/prime minister? If I believe I have the right opinion on the matter, why shouldn't I run? What if I get 10,000 people who agree with my stance on public matters, is that not enough to get half decent advertising?
We need to be able to have more than 2 choices, that is not freedom, that is a forced choice between two assholes who do not support my views fully. Sure one might support my stance on gay marriage or world issues, but what if choice 2 supports my views on the economy and on abortion and affairs? What should I choose?
This is why politics, at it's core, fails.
We have two choices... make that 3. (non voter ftw)
Until we realize that no one person can support our views in full, government will stand. You may have elected, say Bush, because he was a fearless and slightly humorful leader, but then he decides to invade a country based on false evidence... you wish you would of had a say, but all he has to do, is pull a couple of strings and... BAM!... millions dead because he got greedy.
Please, be a non-voter, then we can get to a capitalist market, abolish big business, abolish the class-gap, and ultimately, live life the way it was supposed to be...

FREE!!!!

 

im against same sex marriges.

i think marrige is the union of a man and a woman.

i think a gay couple should be recognise as a couple and have the same legal/economical benefits but should not be considered married.


idc if i spelled something wrong

 

i belive this is the case not just in america but over the world and yeh its wrong but you know all these people go back to the bible and say all this mumbo jumbo its against god and the bibel who gives a fuck its the 21st centuray

 

Who are you to tell someone what they can and can't do?

 

I agree with you about how there's a lot of ignorant people that are voting for the wrong reasons, one main reason being just because of the cantidates political party as you stated. another problem is them voting because they like the way the cantidate speaks, or due to false propoganda, i hate how people that know nothing about politics fuck up who can/will win for presidency because they know nothing about politics.

 

First of all some people don't support it for educated reasons not just things based on religion so get your facts straight. second of all, "who gives a fuck" is the people that believe in the religion, and you even stated in your post saying "yeah it's wrong", but than you say people shouldn't use things such as faith on something to support why they agree or disagree with it.

TJ, aren't you trying to do the same thing by stating what someone should be allowed to do?

 

agreed this election was pure racism they even said last election only 2 million blacks voted now 16 million voted. there goes 16 million for obama. which indeed he won. but idc who is president really.

 

How so? I am saying that you should not interfere with people's lives, they should live how they want.

 

I know this is a different discussion, but I strongly disagree with you there because with gay marriages, it is different. You have to remember that marriage is a Christian idea that specifically says it is between a man and a woman. If a gay couple wishes to get "married", it is obvious they should not be allowed to. Now, if they wish to "become one" in a different manner, they can and no one should be able to stop them, but marriage is for Christians, not for everyone.

 

Let me get this straight, you don't want them to become married because it uses the word married?

 

You said you have to have money to run? Wrong.

Obama used under $100,000 out of his own pocket. That's not hard to do when he worked for the government half of his life. All of the money comes from sponsors, rich friends. Obama did a way better job then Mccain for rasing funds also. Plus, you are mad at Politics when you should be happy that we are still a free country.

 

Every president has been bought out in our present times. Tell me, could you run for president with no money at all? Where would you get the money to start with? You have to have thousands upon thousands of dollars to even get on a ballot, let alone to advertise yourself.

We are not a free country. We are ruled by tyrants that do everything for their own personal gain.

 

Wow.. You are so god damn selfish man. You are saying we are ruled by Tyrant's? Stop complaining about little shit like that and go take a vacation to Africa. Most people on that Continet have it 100x worse then we do, you should be a lot more appreciative then you are since you are not one bit grateful that you can go to school or work without the fear of being gunned down with an AK-47.

 

Marriage is an institution created and defined by Christians, therefore its rules are determined BY Christians. Because they decided it is between a man and a woman, gay MARRIAGE does not work and should not even be an argument. A different form of legal institution should not be an argument either, it should be acceptable.

So to answer your question, no, not because of the word marriage, because of the IDEA and BACKGROUND behind marriage

 

marrage has been happening for hundreds of years and it has allways been between a man and a woman.

why do gays want to get married so bad anyway? in alot of countries they allready have the same rights, i dont see why they need to get married.

the "who are you to tell someone what they can and can't do" statement is pretty stupid/limited, whos to tell me i cant go marry my own penis or a box of cereal?

if the world started thinking like this it would get a lot more fucked up.