This Should Be Applied

This should be applied to the Suggestions Sub-Forum for obvious reasons. There's way to much flaming/spamming/disrespect that goes on in this area of the forum.


A Post Like This Should Be Stickied


G'Day,

Look up - just a little.

See it now, yep that's right - this forum is called Suggestions / Ideas.

We don't care if they are dumb, we don't care if they have been posted before, we don't care if you don't like it.

If you can't be constructive with your criticism - then don't post.

Anything that sniffs of trolling / personal abuse will probably result in insta-ban.

Consider this a first and only warning.

Thanks in advance for your co-operation.

 

There are some just plain dumb ideas sometimes and this isn't like the personal support forum where we are dealing with highly personal and very sensitive subjects. Banning someone for disagreeing with a bad suggestion or trolling a bad suggestion is a terrible idea. Infract them and move on like normal. I also don't really see trolling suggestions as a huge problem.

 

I agree with just issuing out infractions, I also don't see to many trolling comments around the suggestion area either. What I do see however is a lot of disrespect, even by staff members at times. Sure, the idea may not be likable or dumb at times, but there is no need to go overboard like some users do and go as far as calling the OP un-necessary names..

I'm surprised some users have the courage to make any other suggestions after being treated the way they have, this isn't the spam forum..

 

Not every idea is a good one and if they didn have the do not suggest list then we would have a million posts about the same thing. You can't ban someone for not seeing the way the op sees, yes people tend to be buttholes sometimes and say things that would get them beaten by their mothers but I mean your always going to have nay-sayers

 

Best way is that people learn their bounds, if you see a disrespectful or useless post just report it.

 

People shouldn't be punished if they are giving feedback, after all, by putting up your suggestion you should be prepared for people to slate it. Although people should actually give their reasons for their conclusions, not just "No support, stupid idea"

 

I would agree with you if it actually worked. However, telling somebody to report the post won't do a bit of good. They already know they can for 1, and for 2 this wouldn't be a problem. All "this" does is create problems, and IMHO it's actually really annoying to see someone bashing somebody else instead of trying to support their opinion and prove their point.

Basically, make a Sticky for the suggestions forum like this - http://www.sythe.org/something-all/...tellectual-opinion-forum-you-will-banned.html

 

Thing is they do care if its been suggested before.. theres a DO NOT SUGGEST list! http://www.sythe.org/suggestions/1445207-do-not-suggest-list-updated-15-july-2012-a.html (scroll up a little more, no a little more -.-)

Also bans arent issued based on butthurt OP's (unless you are a girl). There is an infraction system, i could agree with an infraction for trolling i guess but it would have to be outright trolling. Not "sniffs" of it, hence my tone of sarcasm when dealing with some of these dumbassed ideas.

First off YOU report posts, dont tell others too... its that yield sign in the top right of anyones post. Most the time if it is actually a flaming/spam post it will be taken care of and an infraction will be issued. They get 5 infractions active at same time and they get a temporary ban.

Once again to the later part of your post, they dont insta ban for butthurt OP's or spam. If they did they wouldnt have a site anymore...
SMH. AGAIN


KnowP

 

My point exactly. Calling someone a stupid fuck for trying to give their ideas on how to improve Sythe is completely outrageous.

We are suppose to encourage people to want to participate, how many people are gonna wanna do that if we have "Stupid Fucks" who could care less about the OP, they are just there to cause a scene. Award them the "12 year old virgy who needs attention' badge?

 

This is not what I'm trying to say. Where you got most of your information from, I have no clue. "Butthurt" OP's aren't the topic of discussion. The overall responses to people's suggestions are the topic of discussion. Abuse and emotions should be kept COMPLETELY OUT of this section. No matter if it makes the OP "Butthurt" or not. This section is to better the site. One thing leads to another, and sooner or later, threads are locked because the fighting gets out of hand. So to put a stop to this, simply make a sticky. Give out Suggestion-Forum-Suspensions for people who don't listen. Give your opinions, try to prove your point, and talk, but do not come in here trying to start a fight, or trying to shove your opinions down somebody else's throat by bashing them.

 

You are suggesting people get insta banned for poking a bit of fun at stupid suggestions (like your own mind you) that my friend is the very butthurt to which i speak.

You are basically suggesting to throw out the infraction system and be more loosely banning people for petty bullshit.

^ That right there is ridiculous. There are plenty of things to keep mods busy without wasting time on minor league trolls, appeasing everyones feelings that make suggestions isnt only stupid but impractical and a thorough waste of time.

Once again see: http://www.sythe.org/suggestions/1445207-do-not-suggest-list-updated-15-july-2012-a.html < They do care if its stupid and has been suggested before because its a waste of everyones time.


KnowP

 

And once again Nodnarbusn, this is not what I'm trying to say. Sorry you interpret it that way. The DNS suggestion is such a miniscule amount of suggestions, I don't care what happens with them. Tthey get deleted/locked relatively fast. If you go ahead and re-read the thread, you can see how different what you're saying, is to what I'm saying. Go ahead and read my last post. The first post is an example off another forum, EXAMPLE. A post "LIKE" this should be made a sticky (notice my first post?). So to basically sum up my argument, the DNS suggestions is not what I'm talking about.



You should either give your point, and argue it maturely. Or not give it at all. People like you set the example for the forum (I see you have a large number of posts, yeah?) so why would you want to go around putting people down, to make more people do it? I don't care what you do outside of the suggestion forum, go ahead and make as many people feel like shit as you possibly can. I'm saying, keep it out of the suggestions sub-forum. This is a place for the site to grow and come together to collaborate ideas. Not for useless arguing, fighting, and abuse. In some threads, why don't you say something about how you can make the idea better, instead of bulldozing your way into an argument, trying to prove how retarded you think the idea is.

 

I made my point, mods have better things to do than to police the suggestions forum for VERY minor trolls like you are suggesting. (

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Trolling is covered by: http://www.sythe.org/sythe-org-news/148431-sythe-org-official-rules.html If you feel a post is trolling feel free to report it and if it was indeed trolling an infraction will be given. (takes 5 for a 3 day ban, suggesting one little snide comment = a "insta ban" is ridiculous)
My point is that people DO CARE if its been suggested before, if it didnt gather support the first time or is on the DNS list it is a waste of time.

tl;dr Trolling is covered by the rules, it doesnt = an "insta ban". Posting ideas that didnt get support or were denied over and over is a waste of time (hence the DNS list..) and should not be condoned. Your suggestion is redundant.

 

This is a joke, what do you expect? Us saying it's a bad idea and why every single time. DNS list was made for those reasons aswell.

 

For one, not every suggestion has been denied or is on the DNS, that's ridiculous, and I never told you what suggestions to post on. Second of all, you really need to re-read through this thread, because your saying things that I've already better established. Lastly, moderators wouldn't be doing any extra work, the posts would be reported using the "triangle at the top right of your post", and if it goes over the top, they would receive a 1-7 day Suggestion-Forum-Ban. Also, ideas are formed 10x better when they're discussed properly without trolling and abuse. The sticky would just be their to remind people of what the SsF should really be about. No emotions, trolling, or abuse. I could find several examples of what I'm talking about, but I'll leave that up to somebody else if they want to.

 

Jesus fucking christ. This has gone from you suggesting some stupid sticky to a complete rework of how bans work making trolling effectively a 5 point infraction. That is ridiculous, i have linked you to the rules. Read them over again.

Im not sure you understand the gravity of what you are proposing, making trolling a 5 point infraction (if it meant a "instaban" thats what it would have to be based on our current system) would be multiplying its severity by FIVE. Thats outrageous, sythe needs to keep members not ban people for petty bullshit.

If it aint broke dont fix it.

 

I can't argue with people that make shit up to be honest. Your seriously worse than the kid that you know is lying but you agree with him anyway because you don't want to make him feel bad or make it awkward. I'm asking for a fucking sticky bud, that's it. Of course if somebody broke the rules of the sticky, they'd get kicked out of that section for a few days, right?? Jesus man, get the big picture. All it's done is cause huge fights and unfinished business between people, and people to be less active in the community. I'll leave it up to the mods to approve or deny this.

 

What did i make up?

You're* Also, wut ?

Then wtf is this

Sounds like you want to rework the rules regarding trolling to make it a banworthy offense which it isnt. This is my main point of contention, its ridiculous.

 

I'd love to write you a pretty abusive post for making such a stupid suggestion.

Think before you make a suggestion, and look around in this forum, then maybe people wouldn't have to point out that it's stupid/has been suggested before.

You've been here for less than a month, what huge fights?

Edit: week, apparently, not month.

 

Write me a pretty abusive post for suggesting that a sticky should be made to stop trolling and senseless bashing with blind emotions in the Suggestions forum? Obviously this forum isn't what I thought it was. Thanks for your time.