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  1. Unread #1 - May 27, 2011 at 5:54 PM
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    *A lot of text

    http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-611844

    "Basically these researchers discovered a way to properly translate the Bible from ancient Hebrew. Apparently the Bible was so massively mistranslated, to the point where we can't even trust the Bibles the Church is using to preach with.

    A research group in Canada, has proved that the Old Testement has been massively mistranslated.

    This follows three years of research, which have uncovered the actual system for translating ancient Hebrew.

    The group discovered that each letter is not a letter at all, but a full word, and what was believed to be a word, is actually a sentence like description, which supplies the definition of the word. With this discovery, each word can now be properly defined and the results are astounding.

    This means a word can no longer be disputed and swayed by doctrinal pressures

    If accurate, the findings will rewrite everything we presently believe about the scriptual beginnings of the Earth.

    Research Head Christopher Tyreman states that what they have found, proves without a doubt, that the Bible has been grossly mistranslated and that their findings expose this fact with glaring simplicity. He further stated that he finds it interesting that a group of lay researchers were able to see and assemble what they call "Self Defining Hebrew or the SDH System" while experts seemed unaware of its existence.

    The team also wished people to understand that this is not a bible code, but the system the original language was built on.

    Its construct shows it to be a manufactured system of massive complexity, using only twenty words, which when mixed, can supply a complete language.

    Mr. Tyreman also added that the form of this language shows it could not have evolved from surrounding cultures as it is incapable of importing words from outside language. This alone points to an origination outside of the scope of the presently held theories of language development. These findings could have a major impact on how Science and religion look at our beginnings."

    Here's a link to the actual website:
    http://www.thechronicleproject.org/index.html

    Translation of Genesis Chapter 1, this are very interesting...



    v1 To chronicle the beginning of the supreme ones production with our celestials
    and with the planet Earth.
    v2 And the planet Earth had existed for a long time without attention and being of
    note.
    And darkness covered the salt water ocean. And the supreme ones drew (in from an
    outside source) air over the face of that water.
    v3 And so declared the supreme ones,"Let that which illuminates exist and that
    which illuminates occurred.
    v4 And the supreme ones perceived with that which illuminates and as so were
    satisfied with the results.
    And with this action the supreme ones separated between that which illuminates and
    the darkness.
    v5 And the supreme ones named that which illuminates,"to arise" and to darkness
    called by the name,"to carry away". And so existed sunset and then sunrise and
    these two times are now united to be known as "The Day to Unite".
    v6 And so declared the supreme ones,"Let exist a hollow expanse amid the ocean.
    And so a split was created across the entire water around theEarth.
    v7 And so the supreme ones finished with the hollow expanse by separating the
    waters, with a portion at the bottom of the expanse (the oceans) and a portion above
    the sky, (orbiting the Earth). And so it came to be as was stated.
    v8 And the supreme ones named this expanse,"The celestials, (that above us which
    draws our attention). And so existed the sunset and then the sunrise. This is "The
    Day of the Divergence" (when the water was diverged).
    v9 Then the supreme ones declared,"Let the waters at the bottom of the expanse be
    emptying away, to rise up to one place united as one, to allow the dryland to
    appear". And it occurred as is stated.
    v10 And the supreme ones called the dryland Earth and the waters collected around
    them were called the seas. And the supreme ones perceived this and were satisfied
    with the results.
    v11 And then the supreme ones declared,"Let us proceed to begin growth on the
    Earth. To begin to grow young shoots, let that be seeded. And sow fruit trees to
    propagate to advance things to face the Earth, with the ability to sow being inside
    the fruit.
    And so it occurred as was stated.
    v12 And so they began to establish new growth on the Earth, young shoots, that
    would seed and reproduce itself as allocated. And trees to continue to produce fruit,
    with sowing inside of it, also as allocated. And the supreme ones perceived this as
    being satisfactory
    v13 And so existed sunset and then sunrise, "The Day to Manifest the Arrangement".
    v14. And so declared the supreme ones,"Let exist that which endures (the sun) to
    continue amid the hollow expanse of the celestials (for this purpose) to the split,
    between the day and between the night.
    To the continuation of the Earth and to provide new moons and for measurements
    and repeating cycles..
    v15. And to exist for that purpose, as it glows inside hollow expanse of the
    celestials, to begin to gleam to cause everything spread out upon the Earth.
    And it shall be as stated.
    And so perceived the supreme ones, and they were satisfied.
    v16 And so the supreme ones finished with those which are paired. The one we see
    with, being the one that gives light, the sun to continue to administer the day and the
    which rations (light), the moon to continue to administer the night with the stars.
    v17 And so the supreme ones spanned those in the expanse of the celestials to begin
    to gleam so to cause everything to spread out upon the Earth, to rule amid day and
    night and the sun to discern between the time of illumination and darkness. And so
    the supreme ones perceived and were satisfied.

    v19 And so existed sunset and sunrise. "The Day What We See Was Multiplied".
    v20 And so declared the supreme ones," Let us divide into separate species
    everything that lives in the water, all divisions of life therefore to flow out to live.
    And birds, let us release them above the Earth, upon the face of the sky.
    v21 And so the supreme ones began to create the ancestors, the ones to regard and
    the same with all therefore to flow out to live. The succeeding generations of the producers of mass offspring, being divided by species of the water, they are
    classified. Everything that flies using wings also a separate class.
    v22 And so the supreme ones commanded those, to declare," Be breaking forth and
    multiplying, to begin to fill all of the water in the seas and that which
    flies, so to produce amid the Earth.
    And sunset came and then sunrise. " The Day the Earth was Warmed".
    v24 And so declared the supreme ones" Let us begin to install the Earth with those
    therefore to flow out to live.
    To allocate herd animals and producers of mass offspring. They will be representing the Earth in this allocation. And it occurred as stated.
    v25 And so the supreme ones finished that which represents the Earth as was
    allocated. With the herds to that allocation and with all the producers of mass
    offspring of the land being to that allocation.
    And so the supreme ones perceived this was satisfactory.
    v26 And declare the supreme ones,"Therefore, make the appointed, inside a copy of
    us, this to duplicate us and so be dominate amid that which swims the sea and amid
    that to fly the skies and amid herds and in all the Earth and in all the producers of
    mass offspring upon the Earth.
    v27 And so they began to produce the appointed, using their "amid". With the
    "amid" they made the male, and the female they produced with that (the male).
    And so commanded the supreme ones to produce those.
    v28 And so the supreme one declared to them,"Be breaking forth and be
    multiplying, to begin to fill the Earth with life, and subdue it. And be dominate
    among that which swims the water and among that which flies the skies and
    everything which lives, to continue upon the Earth.
    v29 And so declares the supreme ones,"Observe. Section a portion to continue to
    yourselves, from all of the young shoots sown, planted to advance over the face of
    all the Earth. And with all the trees also planted, amid being fruit trees to advance, plant them to you for food, so to live.
    v30 And to all that represent the Earth and all that fly the skies and all that glide
    upon the ground, that have to advance inside therefore to flow out to live, let the
    grasses ( grains included) be sustenance.
    And so it occurred as stated.
    v31 And so the supreme ones perceived all the improvements they had made. And
    upon looking at everything, they were utterly satisfied.
    And sunset came and then sunrise, "Day to Eminate". v32And so was finished, the celestials, the Earth and all that had been placed upon
    it. And on that day, the supreme ones made note and marveled at what they had
    been employed to make.
    v33 And so the supreme ones segregated that day and took note and marveled at all
    the progress they had been employed to make.
    v34 And so the supreme ones blessed the day to note the marvel. And they set that
    day apart all of those that had been employed to produce the advance of the Earth
    which they had completed.

    Notice how they refer to "The Supreme Ones" as plural, and therefor should not be translated as "God".
     
  3. Unread #2 - May 27, 2011 at 6:10 PM
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    This whole thing is fringe nonsense from completely untrustworthy sources, and should definitely not be taken seriously.

    Just saying.
     
  5. Unread #3 - May 28, 2011 at 2:11 AM
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    That report is almost as full of shit as the Bible itself.
     
  7. Unread #4 - May 28, 2011 at 2:27 AM
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    So your getting an interpretation from an interpretation.... Ingenuis
     
  9. Unread #5 - May 28, 2011 at 11:08 AM
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    Not sure if i'm right, but wasn't the bible translated from hebrew to greek to english? Can someone confirm?
     
  11. Unread #6 - May 28, 2011 at 12:24 PM
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    Its in every language in the world. The old testament was in hebrew which was translated to latin. There are also thousands of editions of the bible that translate the words differently.
     
  13. Unread #7 - May 28, 2011 at 12:35 PM
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    Haha this thread made my day but uh.. is it a reliable source?
     
  15. Unread #8 - May 28, 2011 at 4:12 PM
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    That's alot to read.
     
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    No, it's not.

    The Bible was not written in a single uniform language. The Old Testament was written primarily in Hebrew, though a bit was in Aramaic and parts of the deuterocanonical books were composed in Greek. The New Testament was written in Greek, though the Gospel of Matthew was originally penned in Aramaic. To further complicate this, the Old Testament used by the early Christians was the Septuagint which was written entirely in Greek. The Roman Catholic Church, however, used the Vulgate for many centuries which was written in Latin, and whose Old Testament was translated from the Hebrew sources, rather than the Greek that had been used by the early Christians.
     
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    The bible is the #1 book bought in the world for years
    Why because its true,
     
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    American Idol has been the #1 TV series.
     
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    This doesn't shake my Christian view. You, my good sir, lose.
     
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    What absurd nonsense. Mao's Little Red Book is the #2 bestseller of all-time, but this hardly proves Mao's communism to be effective. Your argument is an unadulterated appeal to authority which simply cannot be taken seriously.
     
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    I am a christian, but that is nonsense.
     
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    It would be impossible to have an intelligent discussion about that article.
     
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