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P2P Pure: Initiate vs. 1 Def

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    P2P Pure: Initiate vs. 1 Def

    I'm about to make my range/2h F2P pure into a P2P pure. I can't decide whether I want to make an initiate pure or a 1 def pure.

    Regardless of which route I go, I will be maxing strength, range, and magic through AutoSoulWars Pro, and I will be maxing attack as well if I make an initiate, MAYBE if I go 1 def, depending on if I REALLY want whip or not.

    My problem with 1 def pures is that I usually PK on my main, and am used to pk'ing in armour. Having to spam click eat all the time (I hear this is especially bad on maxed 1 def pures) I think will annoy me. But if it's not that bad, then I'm willing to give it a go.

    In your opinion, which is more enjoyable and more flexible. I know Initiate pures have a much easier time against zerkers, but is it worth the extra 5 cmb?
     
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    Honestly, I would just go more along the lines of zerker pure or 1 def, from my years of pking as a near maxed 1 def pker, facing initiate was like facing a 1 def. I haven't pked in probably a solid two years though really so, idk how it is now, but back when I was big I would say thats initiate might get annoying.
     
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    i think you should make an initiate pure just because i believe the def level will help you out in the long run
     
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    I like the idea of an initiate pure because it's more unique, but I think what I'm worried about is: is the defense worth it?
     
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    I like the idea of an initiate pure because it's more unique, but I think what I'm worried about is: is the defense worth it?
     
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    I'd say 1 defence because it's cheaper gear and the def levels you don't gain by staying 1 def can be added in your strength so you'd own more. (ex 20 def and 70 str - same combat level as 1 def and 90 str)
     
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    I'd rather have an initiate pure.
    They seem much more strong in the long run.
     
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    1 def all the way.... if ur maxed 1 def you will rape ini pures. And the same way to you. If you face a maxed 1 def pure and ur ini r gunna get raped. 1def = more atck and str. 1-20def is basically the same when ur attacking with a whip 70 ish atck a super pot etc. There really is no difference, just gives you extra cb lvs.
     
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    If your a pure never get defense levels on purpose, stay 1 mate. Always.
     
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    Stay 1, if you fuck that up, get 20.

    Theres no need to rush and get 20 right now anyway.
     
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    1 defense.
    You hardly lose anything @ death and it's more fun.
     
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    I'm maxing the pure, 99 attack/strength/range/mage, def is the only non-maxed combat other than summoning.

    A maxed init is going to rape a maxed 1 def I'd assume.
     
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    20 def is not a pure.
    Pure means without substance. (Defense in RuneScape's case)
    How can you be pure with defense?
    It makes no sense.

    I'd stay a pure, do not ruin it.
     
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    1 def pure is rly pure other are some pkers or tanks
     
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    P2P Pure: Initiate vs. 1 Def

    Tbh, I'd reccomend making a zerker pure (no matter how annoyingly tedious it is) or perhaps a Proselyte pure (its basically an explanation of the initiate pure down there with the difference of adamant armour with more prayer bonus)

    But to get on topic:

    20 def > 1 def

    Considering the fact that you have initiate armour on with the same stats as mith armour with an added bonus of prayer, allows those stat boosting prayers to stay on longer.
    Sure a 1 def pure could go in with monk robes with a tad bit more prayer bonus, but it basically gets ripped through by 20 def pures.

    The other differences between an initiate pure and a 1 def pure
    - Around +2-3 more damage on your max hit
    - Flashier armour ;)
    - As far as I know, access to the Evil Chicken's Lair which I use often to farm for the visage or just make cash :3
    - Around 5 (give or take) combat levels difference from a maxed 1 def pure

    Imo, the concept of a pure has a minimalist approach to it, and in this case, it aims for the least amount of equipment for maximum damage output and a lower cb level, and its entirely on the player's choice on what they see would be an ideal build for their character :3
    So the term 'pure' can be defined based on one's opinion :3
     
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    So, 45 defense is not a pure, yet it's a zerker?
    20 defense = Unlock a certain armor.
     
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    Id say ini pure, with 1 def ull be raped by tanks..
     
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    Go initiate, can use mystic etc to aswell as initiate if you like hybrid pking.
     
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    That's why you fight with brains.
     
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    P2P Pure: Initiate vs. 1 Def

    You mean cower and say no to anyone in rune+? lol.
     
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