Should multiple recognized gender identities become the norm?

[kill dank]

But that's not the case for a transgender person.

That is exactly the case. They were not transgendered in the womb. At the moment of their birth, they had a set of identifiable genitalia. There is no other way to look at it. You're trying to create technicalities.

tl;dr
R-E-S-P-E-C-T Read above your quote.

tl;dr because it's the only thing in this entire thread that makes any fucking sense and is straight forward enough to not get twisted by all these freaks; even though that's what they're going to try to do.

 

[PowerCapped]

tl;dr because it's the only thing in this entire thread that makes any fucking sense and is straight forward enough to not get twisted by all these freaks; even though that's what they're going to try to do.

What is it that "they're going to try to do?" What do you have to show that "they" will take said action?

 

[PowerCapped]

I wanted to throw this in here: http://www.who.int/gender/whatisgender/en/

The World Health Organization published a page dictating very clear differences between "sex," and, "gender."

 

[Xier0]

I wanted to throw this in here: http://www.who.int/gender/whatisgender/en/

The World Health Organization published a page dictating very clear differences between "sex," and, "gender."

That page is less than useful... read the whole thing:

Me earning less than other men doesn't make my gender "feminine", and neither does me doing less housework than my roommate make his gender "feminine"

The reason all of these definitions for gender disagree with each other is because the entire concept is just political, gender being considered anything different than a person's sex is just unbounded after that point.

 

[slovak]

If anything multiple gender identities should be recognized as a joke. There is male and female anything else is propaganda to enforce population control. Why anybody lissens to the brainwashed users on tumblr is beyond me.

 

[Xier0]

If anything multiple gender identities should be recognized as a joke. There is male and female anything else is propaganda to enforce population control. Why anybody lissens to the brainwashed users on tumblr is beyond me.

I don't think it has anything to do with population control, it's just a social/political thing.

 

[Logic]

The thing that bothers me the most is that people even argue about these things while there are much bigger problems around. It's basicly like "you are free to be anything and do anything, but now we must strip search you cause you might be a terrorist, also we must spy on you 24/7 etc". The promotion of fake freedoms while the real ones are taken from us. Might aswell debate about something that matters not about girls with dildos and boys with pussies.

I have personaly experienced this many times: "oh you don't want to give the 0.05% population equal rights, you must be a real asshole. This is something we can actualy fix as people. It's not like we can fix the big things without fixing the smalls etc...". And when I try to explain that there are much bigger problems around that we can change as people also then the other person usually starts yelling like a madman "HATER HATER HATER". Please don't be one of these sort of people who fights for causes that are pointless from the get-go.

 

[Kellomen]

If you're born with a penis you are a male as you can only perform male duties. If you're born with a vagina you are a women because you can only perform female duties. You were born that way. You can be born straight or be born gay, but if you were suppose to be a man, you would have been a man. If you were suppose to be a women, you would have been a women. Accept what you are and stop giving the finger to nature.

 

[nodnarbusn]

If you're born with a penis you are a male as you can only perform male duties. If you're born with a vagina you are a women because you can only perform female duties. You were born that way. You can be born straight or be born gay, but if you were suppose to be a man, you would have been a man. If you were suppose to be a women, you would have been a women. Accept what you are and stop giving the finger to nature.

Lol define male and female "duties" ?

 

[Xier0]

Lol define male and female "duties" ?

I imagine he means reproduction, in short.

 

[Emperor Nero]

I imagine he means reproduction, in short.

I was under the impression he was referring to gender roles.

 

[nodnarbusn]

I was under the impression he was referring to gender roles.

I guess it is all perception but that is certainly the vibe I got.

Im all for the majority of what he was saying, but Im not a sexist by any means. Except with women, who should be barefoot and pregnant 24/7.

 

[Kellomen]

I was referring to both reproduction and gender roles. Reproduction duties are obvious so no need to explain those. I imagine a lot of feminists are ready to scream 'SEXIST' when I mentioned gender roles. I do not define gender roles by means of roles in society, but by the roles they play in nature. A male usually grows up to be a father and a husband and a female usually becomes a mother and a wife. I really don't understand this equality bullshit when each gender is so different that you can't even compare them. Can a man give birth? No. Can a man use his body to feed his child at an infant stage? No. Is a man usually more aggressive than a women? Yes.

Not to mention the wide range of different hormones each gender has that dictates a lot of that gender's actions.

And again, I am only referring to the roles in nature NOT society. So, don't write me an essay about women getting less pay or how we shouldn't refer to women as 'bossy' or some other feminist argument.

 

[nodnarbusn]

I was referring to both reproduction and gender roles. Reproduction duties are obvious so no need to explain those. I imagine a lot of feminists are ready to scream 'SEXIST' when I mentioned gender roles. I do not define gender roles by means of roles in society, but by the roles they play in nature. A male usually grows up to be a father and a husband and a female usually becomes a mother and a wife. I really don't understand this equality bullshit when each gender is so different that you can't even compare them. Can a man give birth? No. Can a man use his body to feed his child at an infant stage? No. Is a man usually more aggressive than a women? Yes.

Not to mention the wide range of different hormones each gender has that dictates a lot of that gender's actions.

And again, I am only referring to the roles in nature NOT society. So, don't write me an essay about women getting less pay or how we shouldn't refer to women as 'bossy' or some other feminist argument.

I'm against all that feminist extremism and tumblr bs but you sir are incredibly sexist. This isnt the 50's dude, wake the fuck up.

 

[Kellomen]

I'm against all that feminist extremism and tumblr bs but you sir are incredibly sexist. This isnt the 50's dude, wake the fuck up.

I'm sexist because I accept the limits of what I can and can't do as a male? Really? Shit, since this is the 21st century and not the 50s how about we spend trillions of dollars on technology to make men be able to give birth and we'll pump women full of steroids to help get their testosterone levels to be equal to a males. Everybodys equal right? There are no differences between genders since we are all equal right? So, yeah fuck nature. Nature is sexist. We are equal.

 

[nodnarbusn]

I'm sexist because I accept the limits of what I can and can't do as a male? Really? Shit, since this is the 21st century and not the 50s how about we spend trillions of dollars on technology to make men be able to give birth and we'll pump women full of steroids to help get their testosterone levels to be equal to a males. Everybodys equal right? There are no differences between genders since we are all equal right? So, yeah fuck nature. Nature is sexist. We are equal.

I didnt say a fucking thing about men giving birth, or taking hormones ect. You emphasized "gender roles" aside from reproduction and that my friend is sexist as all fuck. I believe a man should be man and a woman but aside from reproduction and pissing standing up I dont feel either gender has the upper hand in much of anything.

Dont patronize people and paint them to be liberal faggots because they aren't chauvinists like yourself.

 

[Kellomen]

I didnt say a fucking thing about men giving birth, or taking hormones ect. You emphasized "gender roles" aside from reproduction and that my friend is sexist as all fuck. I believe a man should be man and a woman but aside from reproduction and pissing standing up I dont feel either gender has the upper hand in much of anything.

Dont patronize people and paint them to be liberal faggots because they aren't chauvinists like yourself.

"And again, I am only referring to the roles in nature NOT society. So, don't write me an essay about women getting less pay or how we shouldn't refer to women as 'bossy' or some other feminist argument."

The fact that you wrote back to me saying that my post was sexist implies that you believe there are certain gender roles in nature you find sexist.

"I dont feel either gender has the upper hand in much of anything."

And you think I do? I said they were too different to compare. We have different organs, different hormones (which effects the way we think and the way we act), and we each mature in a different way through puberty. I am not saying a male or a women is better than the other, we are just different in a biological aspect. In SOCIETY (why I made the distinction in my other post which you ignored) there is little gender difference. Men attract women and sometimes other men. Women attract men and sometimes other women. Both have the ability to do equal work in the office as well as physical labor.

 

[Emperor Nero]

There are no gender roles in nature. There are biological implications and they're societal implications. There is no in between. The thing that my argument is based around is the fact that the people who are arguing for people being accepted as other genders are the same people who are fighting against gender roles. If we eliminate gender roles why do people feel the need to be accepted as another gender? What are the bonuses of being recognized as another gender beyond being able to fulfill gender roles? Even if you argue self-satisfaction what is there to be satisfied with if I, as male, can perform the same duties as a female? I don't know, I am sure there is more to it than that but it is really the base line.

 

There are no gender roles in nature.

Primates? :c

 

[nodnarbusn]

Primates? :c

Ur a cheeky kent m9 . Also lions and shit, females do the bread winning per se.

"And again, I am only referring to the roles in nature NOT society. So, don't write me an essay about women getting less pay or how we shouldn't refer to women as 'bossy' or some other feminist argument."

The fact that you wrote back to me saying that my post was sexist implies that you believe there are certain gender roles in nature you find sexist.

"I dont feel either gender has the upper hand in much of anything."

And you think I do? I said they were too different to compare. We have different organs, different hormones (which effects the way we think and the way we act), and we each mature in a different way through puberty. I am not saying a male or a women is better than the other, we are just different in a biological aspect. In SOCIETY (why I made the distinction in my other post which you ignored) there is little gender difference. Men attract women and sometimes other men. Women attract men and sometimes other women. Both have the ability to do equal work in the office as well as physical labor.

>says dont write an essay
>in turn writes an essay

Nice backpedaling btw.

If we eliminate gender roles why do people feel the need to be accepted as another gender? What are the bonuses of being recognized as another gender beyond being able to fulfill gender roles? Even if you argue self-satisfaction what is there to be satisfied with if I, as male, can perform the same duties as a female? I don't know, I am sure there is more to it than that but it is really the base line.

Preach.