Skeptics and Christians

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  1. Unread #1 - Sep 30, 2007 at 11:37 AM
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    I have seen BOTH Christians and Non Christians say this;

    1st the skeptics....if they disagree with something written in the bible.and state WHY they disagree with it..all of a sudden,a Christian will say - You are so negative, because you just don't understand it...

    The christian - The very sec they disagree with what IE - Evolution states, and then they state WHY they disagree with it....all of a sudden they too get --> you don't see it my way, because you don't understand the science Evolution is used as an example as it can be about anything

    What makes people so darn sure, that a skeptic hasn't read and understood the bible?...what makes you think that because they disagree, they should just stay away from the bible and not try and debate opinions...aren't they entitled to their views?.How do we know they didn't study it on line even or in school??. ...However i will admit some don't.understand it..thats why they don't bother trying to debate it much

    What makes people think, that because a Christian disagrees with Evolution, that all of a sudden, they just don't get it?? How do you know they don't understand it?? it's obvious that many do in fact understand it, they just don't think it adds up, isn't it their personal view?? aren't they entitled to give their views?..
    How can you prove they haven't read the book on evolution??.OR studied it on line even or at school?? .. If they debate it, then obviously they have read something of it

    How many of you will enter a thread, anywhere on this forum, and try and debate a topic, when in reality, you don't have the foggiest notion about it?
    If you enter a thread and post a lot in it, debating, then you obviously know something about it, in order to take an interest...right?

    If you find something wrong with the bible, that you don't agree with, then it's obvious you have read it and understood it, in order to take a stand and say - hey this don't seem right!!

    If you find something about evolution that doesn't make sense (in many cases its the whole thing lol)...then it's obvious you have read up on it, before you debated it...hence the reason as to WHY you chose to defend creationism instead.....again the thread can be about anything..just using evolution for an example

    However, it is best to look at peoples POV and understand why they feel the way they do.about any subject..but it don't mean you must agree with them

    And why do some Skeptics think, that because a Christian disagrees with Evolution, this MUST mean they aren't educated???

    Why do some Christians think the same towards skeptics, all because they don't agree with the bible??
    (key word here is SOME..meaning not all)
     
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    Although I can't seem to find a specific question you're asking, from what I can get from your post, heres my answer:

    Some skeptics haven't thoroughly read the Bible as I have, but once you get the gist of it being a load of shit, then theres really not much of a need to.

    Most Christians disagree with evolution not only because they don't understand it, but also just because it contradicts their personal beliefs.
     
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    Evolution of human beings is also a belief because it isn't proven. Evolution... Who's to say that God isn't behind it?
     
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    There is no doubt that humans have evolved, its just whether or not you want to accept the evidence. The only ones who don't accept it are the ones with religious pretenses holding them back. Saying that "God is behind it" is one of the funniest things I've heard in a while. We can't explain everything just yet so God must be behind it eh?
     
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    What I'm trying to say is there's more to this than physics. By you saying "I find it funny when we can't explain stuff christens say "God is behind it" I find that funny, almost like an escape goat lawl.
    There's a lot of things science can't prove. Such as "is conscious situated within the brain?/ a physical part of the brain part of the brain?" I love to see atheist strain themselves over these questions. Love it.
     
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    Don't you mean a "scapegoat"?

    The questions will be answered, its just a matter of time. What I'm trying to say is lets not just go home and say God did it.
     
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    It has nothing to do with Christians understanding it, shit I can tell you all about evolution all day but I know there are missing facts and there cutting fine line corners.

    No he wants you to answer if and not use a scapegoat ;)

    We don't just say that, There is actually allot of proof and evidence that there very well might be a god in your stand point, in mine he's real and Ill try to show you that there can be science and god. God is a scientist, not a magician ;), although he could be...lol
     
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    double post....please delete, sorry
     
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    great point. although i do not agree with the idea of "absent god", or god to say the least. i am glad that some one has seen this possibility and pointed it out.
     
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    Care to name any of these?

    It seems so since I had never heard the term "escape goat" used. But what was the scapegoat in that situation? "I find that funny..." is nothing of the sort.

    There are no scientific arguments for the existence of a God other than the "God of the Gaps" bullshit which can be dealt with easily.
     
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    Yeah, but thats the one point is that evolution is a theory and not a proven fact.
     
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    religion falls under the same category.

    i wish we could revive my "To the Atheist Agnostic and Fundamentalist" thred
     
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    Exactly they both are but everyone struts around like its 100% true but yet its not and does have flaws.
     
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    The creation story in the bible seperates literalists and contexualist christians.
    Contextualist christians understand that the creation story was simply a guide for the people of the time. Humans decided to make things simple because we sure as Hell know that humans weren't the first thing on this planet and didn't fully understand what they're purpose here was. It says in the book of Genesis of the Old Testament the Universe was created in 7 days, that may have easily been 7 billion years or more. Remember the Bible was written by humanity and only inspired by God.
    Contextuality and literality seperates rational people from idiots.
     
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