Unbanning Requirements ||Account Recovery||

So I come to you guys today to get some feedback, this post can be moved wherever but didn't really know where to put it.

So the problem I bring today is the status of someone being eligible to be unbanned. I'm speaking in particular with account recovery banning.

I've had numerous accounts recovered and what not and I know the feeling that you get when you see the person that sold the account is banned but then unbanned for whatever reason it may be. (Now I know you're going to say buy from trusted only, but sometimes you must buy from other sources in order to get the account you want.)

The usual reason they're unbanned is because they refund the buyer saying that someone else must've recovered account of whatever other excuses there may be.

Yeah they refunded but they don't put into account all the time, leveling, and gold you put into the account. For example, I bought an account for 75$ and put around 100 more $$$ worth of money and then plenty of levels that would cost more than 200$ under the skilling services. That's why people recover because they rely on you putting so much effort and money into the accounts that they'll make profit and then just re sell it later on different sites.

How does that make someone eligible for getting a pardon and becoming unbanned? It makes no sense to me that they can just refund you and they get the account back and all the other stuff you put into it.

It's tough to prove that they're the ones that took it but isn't that the case with any scam? It's impossible to prove that they're the ones that recovered the account back, I get that part.

This is more just to see if anyone else supports that this isn't feasible and should somehow be changed.

This can be moved wherever it needs to be moved to..

 

So you want the person to refund you based on what YOU think you deserve for the amount of money and time you put on the account?

 

No way, that's impossible to determine. I'm saying that they just should be banned for good. Get no chance of coming back.

They could just keep repeating the process.

 

If I were to sell an account that you lost control of and I was not able to recover the account for whatever reason so I refund the account price I should be perm banned? I don't think so. Also addressing repeating the process, if a user is unbanned for refunding the account and claimed they did not recover it and then proceed to sell the same account they "didn't recover back" they would be permed without question.

 

I don't think people should be able to sell accounts that they are NOT the original owner of PERIOD. That would eliminate most of the recoveries because all i ever see in the scam report section that is attributed to recovered accounts is that the account being sold was originally owned by someone other than the person selling it.

Selling accounts that you didn't originally create makes no sense to me because you'll never be able to identify who recovered it.

 

Oh okay, you didn't get your point across very well.

No support. Buying accounts is a risk, you have to deal with the account getting locked, recovered or it getting banned for past offenses prior to it being bought. Like you said, it's hard to prove that they actually recovered the account unless they are admitting to it. What else would you want them to do? I believe in people changing and because of that they shouldn't be held against the effort and money you put in the account, while it's their fault for recovery, they shouldn't pay off the money you spent on the account. If they admit to the account recovery, they shouldn't be allowed to resell the account. Simple as that.

 

If it's their fault for recovery then THEY SHOULD be held liable for the damages occurred by said recovery.

Also, if they admit to the recovery, more than not being able to sell the account should be done.

The risk of SELLING an account previously owned by someone else should be carried by the seller for selling the account, not the buyer.

Edit: this pretty much only applies if the account is made by someone other than the seller.

 

What else should be done? You cannot prove the amount of money you spent on the account. You could perm ban them from the account selling forums, but that is a bit excessive.

 

If it's their fault the account was recovered and an additional loss occurred other than the price of the account then they should be banned and held liable for the losses sustained. If an account is recovered and it's the sellers fault, that's scamming is it not?

 

Duh.. That is why they are pardoning.

 

i edited my post to further my point.

 

You cannot prove the amount of additional money spent on the account. So why should they be responsible for what the buyer of the account supposedly loss? The pardon system is case by case and I'm sure they will let the right people back into the community.

 

There are plenty of services putting a monetary value on account leveling. AT LEAST that would be easy to put a price on.

Also, mostly of what i'm saying is that a person can avoid a ban if an account is recovered by simply refunding the person who purchased the account.

If i put 10mil on an account i purchased for $50 and an hour later it's recovered, for the person to avoid a ban all they'd have to do is refund the $50. Why shouldn't they be held liable for the 10m i put on the account? (The 10mil is just an example, can easily be interchanged with leveling)

 

They will be perm banned before letting back into the community. Before pardoning, they would have to refund the user for the amount they bought the account for. It's not guaranteed that they will be pardoned. I've seen a lot of pardons about account recovery being denied even with them refunding the buyer. Do you understand now?

 

I've seen PLENTY of scam reports of people who are NOT banned after they refund. Do YOU understand now?

Like i said in my previous post, my points are towards people who aren't banned after selling an account that is recovered simply because they refunded the person.

 

Like? Show me one example. You still don't seem to understand. If they admit to recovering the account, they are perm banned.

 

Did i ever say anything about them admitting to recovering the account?

i said if its there fault it was recovered.

 

A few things need to be established..

The original owner can only recover an account. If the person selling the account is not the original owner and the account gets recovered, the person who sold the account is responsible for refunding the cost of the account.

Can you show me an example of what you mean?

 

I don't feel like going through 300 pages of report a scammer archive.

http://www.sythe.org/report-scammer-archive/1676774-reporting-adamgoldshop-account-recovery.html

Adam sold an account, it got recovered, all he had to do to avoid a ban was refund lalapo. Why shouldn't he also cough up the cost of the leveling or items\gold placed on the account? It's his fault it was recovered right? If it's impossible to put a monetary value on the time\items lost then he should either be banned or a new rule put into place that wouldn't allow people to sell accounts that they aren't the original owner of.

Sorry if you're not understanding my point, i'm putting it as plainly as possible. Reread my posts if you have to, not much more clarity i can give you.

 

Quote from the op of the account he sold, "Hi, i am Adam and im selling this awesome account. It's not my account(it's a friend's account who i have known for many years), but I TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY for the account, and if anything happens i will refound you/give you a similar account."

Thank you for proving my point. Peace out!