Secrecy and continuation of Real World Trading.

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Secrecy and continuation of Real World Trading.
  1. Unread #1 - Jan 3, 2008 at 4:27 AM
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    OK, so first of all your thinking this is another retarded method that doesn't work to do real world trading.

    My suggestion is that the entire method of which gold can now be traded remain a secret. Kept by Sythe.org.

    Yer right, hows this possible with all the leechers, etc.

    To start securing the method all discussion about how the trades should be conducted etc should be Thrown into one section, This includes Talk about it and problems with it.

    This section should have a page displaying That No jagex member or anyone that is an informant for Jagex blabla bla.. This will deal with jagex, but if they somehow find a way around this there should be another section to pass.

    There will be a new group of moderators called " Gate keepers" etc call it what you want.

    Person A wants to get into that section,
    Person A sends a request for entry to Moderator.

    Moderator Reviews conditions etc and grants or denies entry.

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    Now your saying what the hell is all this for....

    I believe in the past jagex has been browsing Cheating sites for methods of which real world trades are being done, and in this sense nearly whipped it out completely.

    This is our last hope too keep RWT alive.

    Please support and consider, Its the future of RWT.
     
  3. Unread #2 - Jan 3, 2008 at 4:58 AM
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    Every time I read your posts about RWT I enjoy it. 99% of the time, I see the thought that you put into it and can actually envision it as feasible. I like the idea and agree with you 100%. Depends though, what would be the requirements to get in and how would you try to ensure that it doesn't turn into a popularity contest? I mean, it could easily turn into a situation where someone leaks info all because they knew the right people.
     
  5. Unread #3 - Jan 3, 2008 at 5:10 AM
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    Thats true, But we will just have to trust the Moderators in Charge.
     
  7. Unread #4 - Jan 3, 2008 at 5:17 AM
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    Nothing against the mods, but another Atomic situation could arise. I just think that its almost impossible to govern something like this impartially. All I'm concerned about is how hard it would be to segregate those with motives to deceive.
     
  9. Unread #5 - Jan 3, 2008 at 5:31 AM
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    Secrecy and continuation of Real World Trading.

    While I see some obvious flaws highstandards10 has already pointed out, it'd be better than nothing at all.
     
  11. Unread #6 - Jan 3, 2008 at 5:33 AM
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    Once again that could happen, But there is nothing that can be done but for the Moderators to be chosen carefully. And the admins check up on them.

    I'm guessing it would take around 50 members to run the section so there aren't any delays getting in.

    Also a post count factor should be considered.
     
  13. Unread #7 - Jan 3, 2008 at 5:42 AM
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    Post Count means nothing.

    You're saying that we should let anyone that can spam 101 posts a day in? *cough smoked cough*

    I think it should be based on maturity.

    You don't need talent to spam, but you need maturity to be...mature.
     
  15. Unread #8 - Jan 3, 2008 at 6:26 AM
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    The only reason i suggest that is that A person cant just directly make an account and just barge in there.


    But afterall like you said.

    You don't need talent to spam, but you need maturity to be...mature.

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    There need to be added security measures when accesing that section.

    Anyone got any ideas?
     
  17. Unread #9 - Jan 3, 2008 at 8:43 AM
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    Yes this is a great idea and will make it alot harder for jagex to gain information about trading methods...
     
  19. Unread #10 - Jan 3, 2008 at 3:16 PM
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    Secrecy and continuation of Real World Trading.

    I think post quality is an issue for the amount of posts. Maybe a quick check to see the last 30-40 posts from someone and see if the general trend is spam or if they or at least trying to contribute something in a mature way? I'm not sure..
    Perhaps maybe a loose application where you have people stand as character witnesses? Eh..its early in the morning and I can't be bothered to go into alot of detail. I'll edit with more ideas in a little.


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    Little quick idea that just came to me. Maybe have something like sythemils? Where they verify that it really is you? I know its really farfetched, but Talking to someone over the phone usually gives you an indication of who they are. Also, it weeds out alot of the 12 and 13 year olds who aren't really as mature as they can be. Although, there are a few that I respect for their maturity shown.
     
  21. Unread #11 - Jan 3, 2008 at 5:18 PM
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    Secrecy and continuation of Real World Trading.

    i kinda agree

    like only certain people can view it

    how else would jagex be able to know how real world trades are done?

    the main cause is the real world traders themselves

    i mean only way jagex finds out if someone is real world trading is if some1 in games reports them and who would report them

    and who would report because how will you know someone is real world trading? the buyer or seller or theirs friends are nearby and they report the following and get them banned. Than jagex tracks the activity of that person who was reported and find out how they did it

    but i think this is a somewhat of a way to secure it but jagex will find out how people rwt new ways in the future
     
  23. Unread #12 - Jan 4, 2008 at 10:00 AM
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    You have a valid point, This will also mean less bans.
     
  25. Unread #13 - Jan 4, 2008 at 3:55 PM
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    You are a complete idiot. The "Atomic Situation" was scamming nothing to do with hidden sections on the forums...

    As much as it would be a GREAT idea i feel as though there aren't enough trustworthy people on sythe to warrant this... I mean, sure we COULD get maybe half the staff in on it and 10-15 members but any more than that and we would risk having it leaked way too badly.
     
  27. Unread #14 - Jan 4, 2008 at 6:23 PM
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    What the hell are you talking about? Atomic wasnt working with jagex.... he was working with someone else.
     
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    Secrecy and continuation of Real World Trading.

    We've tried private/secret market forums before. They don't work, and they don't stay private.
     
  31. Unread #16 - Jan 4, 2008 at 6:38 PM
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    Even if this DOES work, there is no real, reliable, and economical way to RWT.
     
  33. Unread #17 - Jan 4, 2008 at 7:39 PM
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    SMR, I havent been here quite long enough so i didn't know its been tried before. And if you say it didn't work i'd like to know why it went wrong.

    But, I'm not suggesting the whole market be put into this sort of thing, Just where people post new methods to trade etc.

    But the whole market should be considered, and it tried again.
     
  35. Unread #18 - Jan 18, 2008 at 3:05 AM
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    When I was referring to Atomic was not to try and imply he was giving away secrets or whatever you took it out to be, I was trying to make the point that as is the risk with just about everything, the mods could select another person with ulterior motives different from the rest of those in charge. Perhaps I should have made it clearer, but there was no need to call me an idiot. Fool.
     
  37. Unread #19 - Jan 18, 2008 at 4:14 AM
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    The precations are there so that the Jagex informants have to go though some kind of Process inorder to get to what they want.
     
  39. Unread #20 - Jan 20, 2008 at 8:26 AM
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    Yes, but knowing Jagex they'd probably assign a team to an account on Sythe making it extremely trusted/respected so they could gain access into that certain forum.

    It would also probably end up getting leaked.
     
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