Make The Pure Section 35 Defence And Down

Well, big improvement in the Pure Section of the Market, we now have stickies telling people to not post their tanks and barrows-pkers and mains.

But, they still post all their 50 defence and 40 defence pkers. Those just don't qualify as pures, they are more mains than they're pures atleast.

A fix for this could be removing the "Characters: Levels 100-138" Since no pure, could achieve that combat level, even with 99 in all combat skills (Except defence obviously)

Aswell as adding the limit of 35 defence, to the above mentioned sticky in the pure forums.

I know this suggestion will result in some controversy, with people claiming that people with 45 defence is pure.

My counter-arguments; No pure clan accept higher than 35 defence. And, here is the definition of a pure, written by the legend, I mahatma i:

 

A no from me. If the account is specifically built for PKing, it's a pure. If it's not, it's a main. In my opinion, you can have a level 100+ pure because it was built specifically to fight in that level with a strategic build (usually, 70 defense or something) to keep its damage-per-second high but its combat level low. In this case, the defense is strategically built to take advantage of quest rewards and/or armor benefits, but no higher.

However, the idea of changing the sections from combat level to defense level is intriguing. It'd be nice to have a "Combat pures <35 Def" versus "Combat Pures >35 Def" section, but there are so many in between as well. Classifying a pure based on defense is ultimately just as arbitrary as combat level, but this way the same "class" of pures is still together. (E.g., you're looking for a 1-def PKer instead of a high-def staker, so you go to the Combat Pures >35 Def section.)

 

Well, a character build specifically for pking isn't always a pure. A pure means that the character is actually pure.. ;> Just as much as a tank (Which is also build to pk) isn't a pure.

Look at the definition I posted in the quote

 

But you also have quite a good point, this whole discussion could, technically be avoided, and we could just make a 1-35 defence section, and a 35+ section, and barrows and tanks still belong in mains.

 

Double posting aside, the point I was trying to make is that that definition of a pure isn't really very accurate. Especially in the last few years, people began making higher levelled pures because a maxed 60/99/1 pure had a low combat level, so lower loot in the wildy. Also, the advent of the Ancient Curses, quest-specific weapons and armor, etc. eventually drove the creation of more "pure" accounts with defense.

What people call "pure clans" recruit only less than 35 defense so that they can actually fight the same target in the wilderness. That doesn't mean that the other accounts aren't pure. A barrows pure is just as pure as a 1-defense pure with 0 xp in the Defense skill. However, an account with 6 defense is probably not a pure unless that 6 defense came from a useful quest reward. Also, even if an account has a pretty number like 35 defense, it is not pure in my eyes unless the EXP comes with useful quest rewards. If it doesn't have curses at the very least, it's not a pure to me. Thus, unquested accounts with 45 defense are not pure, but if it was quested specifically for zerkers, then it is.

 

We both agree that the term "pure" used in Runescape, started somewhere. It started as my thread says, with i mahatma i, or atleast at his time. The word "pure" was used to describe characters not having defence, thereby being "pure". You can't just suddenly decide that having defence, is pure aswell, that would mean no one is pure, and ruin the entire concept.

As I said before, you can't categorize tanks with pures, just because they leveled the defence using quests and/or to have an advantage in wilderness. We can both agree that they're pkers, both pures and tanks are pkers. But not both are pures.

Same goes for people with 45 defence, they're not pure, theyre IMpure. But they're zerkers. That's the definition of them. People have just mistakenly started calling them Zerker Pures.

 

A rune pure isn't a main, it is a pure, hence the name rune pure. If this was to change then we would have to put a rune pure into the mains category, a spot where it wouldn't fit.

 

Did you even read the thread? That name hasn't existed forever, only used by noobs here on Sythe

A rune pure is basically just a main with slightly lower defence.

Where a pure, actually is pure

The definition of the word pure "free of extraneous elements of any kind"

Defence is that extraneous element. So if someone get defence, they're not pure anymore.

 

I am sorry, but Runescape has simply changed since whenever you apparently left. Rune pures are extremely common now. I've already explained why: there are new weapons, new quests, new armour... new a lot of stuff that makes it beneficial to get your level up and fight higher-levelled players. Additionally, rather than levelling up defense in a strength pure, you can have a tank, summoning pure, etc. There are dozens of types of pures.

Again: The word "pure" only means it is an account with stats that are tailored around taking advantage of the combat level system. It makes absolutely no difference if it has defense or not, as long as the levels are strategically placed.

 

I don't support this. Zerkers and rune pures belong in the pure section.

 

The concept of being "A pure" is meant as having 1 defence.

You can be PURELY leveling defence, but that doesn't make you A pure.

A pure, is, and always has been, a level 1 defence character, made to pk.

The whole concept of being A pure, revolved around the purity of having 1 defence. That can't just be changed because noobs decide 40 defence doesn't count as impure.

A 40 defence char, that has been strategically leveled to pk, is a pker, not a pure, wtf is pure about that?

That's like claiming gold with 50% tin in it, is pure gold.