Rule alteration.

Gravedigging should be allowed for own threads, as there may be absences, or other reasons for not posting in the thread for extended periods of times. This would mean that people could bring back their old threads, while still preventing people from spamming old threads to boost post count.

On another note, this rule is ridiculously vague. How can people know what is considered Grave Digging? Is a thread that's a few weeks old too old to post on? Or a few months. It's not as self explanatory as stated.

I would suggest changing it to something similar to this.

 

I don't think it really needs to be changed. I don't know about the other mods but I deal with gravedigging on a case to case basis. Like if someone wanted to gravedig their old mming thread or selling thread, stuff like that.

I think that part of rule covers everything else and whenever it happens the moderator can decide to deal with it in whatever way they see fit.

 

This is one of the problems with it. It needs to be made more clear, as somebody could post something a few weeks old (one of their own threads maybe, or something they found interesting and saved) and seeing as it wasn't months old, they could think they're fine. One moderator might agree with them, hell, three might. But one considers it Grave Digging and they get infracted.

 

It's so easy to just warn a member who does it and just close the topic they gravedug.

 

It's easy for the moderator yes, but it's more difficult for members not knowing. If the member doesn't know, then it would happen more, however if they did know, that'd decrease Grave Digging to an almost non-existant offence.

 

I've only gravedug my old threads. It's really up to users discretion to post or not, and mods discretion to warn/infract or not.

 

My point is that it's obscenely unclear. Changing it to a set time would make life far simpler.

 

Then make a sticky or warn them (that's what a warning is for )

 

But what would count as Grave Digging would have to be included, which is not stated in the rule itself!

 

The rule is ridiculously vague and I don't even know why it has been brought back. If I remember correctly, when it was removed last time the thought was that grave digging in not inherently bad and should only be against the rules if the topic is no longer relevant and in which case the post would just be considered spam. But, regardless, in this context there is no context for what "some select threads" are. Now, I grave dig my SFA threads now and then because I know there is nothing wrong with that but a new member might not so at least some clarification is needed.

 

SuF, I think all of the current mod staff realizes that "gravedigging" your own thread to revive it is not something that is egregious. It's the people who post in a 6 month old topic, responding to the OP without realizing it was so old, that are the problem. Based on the angry PMs I got for issuing "Other Infraction - Gravedigging - 1 point - expires 30 days," I think some sort of rule was necessary (and thus adding Gravedigging into the sectional mod's arsenal of infraction criteria). I do agree that this one is vague, although I don't see that the mod staff is abusing the grey area at all.

 

I wasn't saying they were abusing it, I was saying misunderstandings would come around.

 

If you were issuing other infractions, the reason why it was removed in the first place was lost. If the thread about revamping the rules hadn't been admin archived, someone could have gone back to see the logic that went into removing it. But really, what is the point of infracting for grave digging? If it is a mistake just lock the thread. If it is spam, infract for spam and lock the thread.

And the confusion isn't within the staff. It's within the user base.

 

Bump.

 

I could honestly say it's just fine the way it is. But as you've said if someone were to go away, then come back and re-post on their thread. I then think, it should be fine.

 

If I had to, I'd say that this rule should be altered. I've been in many instances where I had to decide if it was worth risking an infraction to gravedig an old thread of mine, or to just post an entirely new thread. Support.

 

The only type of threads you should be allowed to gravedig is your services thread such as selling/buying gold etc Stuff like that * if you leave sythe for a period of time*

As if the thread is really that old, your question has been more then likely answered.

 

I agree with SuF. Grave Digging shouldn't be against the rules at all. Spamming is already against the rules, so this rule really serves no purpose. I would say that if a thread has been posted in after a very lengthy period of time, as long as the content remains relevant, what is the issue?

Sure, a discussion that is resurrected after several years may cause some confusion as to the activity of the thread, but the dates are shown on every post and if a user can't judge based on that, then the problem is null. Elsewise, it's not an important issue.

As a personal opinion though, most staff won't bother taking any action on the matter of grave digging because I'm sure a majority of them know well enough that's it's not that important. New mods might, maybe, but if they've been doing this for at least a month then you're ok .

 

Bump.

 

I see no reason not to clear up the somewhat vague wording