RID Bans?

I got 99 mage and around 80 smithing with RiD bots, and in all honesty they run well. I once had an issue running them and I filed a ticket, and I actually was helped by the owner himself who actually released an update on the bot just so it would work on my computer. I was seriously impressed with their customer service. My bot could consistently run around 8 hours before it needed to be reset, buts considering the chances of you getting banned are extremely low, and theres not much else its a great alternative. And no its not expensive unless you plan on running a bot farm. 100 hours is like 7 bucks.

 

$7.99 for 100 hours / 8 cents an hour, letting your computer run for an hour probably costs more =|

$.08 an hour! What an outrage.

It is.

 

While Simba is free, open-source, and doesn't take control of your computer.

 

I can actually give you accurate numbers, as everyone saying 5%+ is exaggerating completely.

Ever since the forums came online (2 years ago) we have only had 37 bans.
Each of those bans broke one or multiple guidelines that led them to be banned.

Now for the statistics, 37 bans with roughly 600,000 hours botted total using RiD.

37/600,000 = 0.00006166667 bans per hour botted.
This comes out to 0.0061% chance of a ban per hour botted.

At that rate you could break guidelines for 16k+ hours before ever getting caught and banned. For reference that is nearly 2 years of non stop botting.

I am a Mod at the site so I do have access to this information and it is not made up, usually the only times we do see bans is when JMods perform sweeps as they did a few months ago trying to find users botting mining.

I understand some people think the bot is expensive, I can see their perspective going from a one time auth charge to paying per hour but you have to remember that RiD has to pay monthly for multiple botting servers to keep his black box security.

In all honesty just try the bot in my opinion, if it doesn't work get into the chatbox and there are always helpful members around to help you get it running. And if you still don't like it after that you could try out Simba which is a great bot in its own right with an up and coming community.

RiD - www.robotzindisguise.com
Simba - villavu.com

 

That's the people that have posted that they've been banned. When I get banned I hardly ever post on the botting site that caused it.
"At that rate you could break guidelines for 16k+ hours before ever getting caught and banned. For reference that is nearly 2 years of non stop botting."
That's the biggest bullshit I've ever read, it depends on how long you bot for, where you bot and many other factors.
I would love to see an account that has run for 1000 hours straight and yet you say 16000 hours... I have no idea how you'd run an RiD bot for 24/7 anyway.
The max time the bot has run for me is about 2 hours and 30 mins and that was with RiD Diverse with no randoms, I'd love to see how your other bots would fair with randoms..

 

A good point. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've heard RiD's way of solving random events is... logging out? Does it even try to solve one?

Ya know... SRL doesn't have the best anti-randoms in the world, it's not a walk in the park to do this via color, but there are multiple random events that are properly handled, and all are obviously detected. SRL will, atleast, attempt to solve the random event, if it's successful then grand, if not it'll log you out. There's also constant development on anti-randoms.

Can anyone confirm RiD's way of handling random events? (Not attempting, just logging out)

 

RiD solves over half of the current randoms and is always working on adding new random solutions. The bot will only log out of randoms it cannot solve.

Obviously no one can run a bot for 16k hours straight, that includes the former nexus/rsbuddy due to technical reasons its just statistics, have you not taken high school math? And I know each RiD bot will have different statistics for ban rates but that is a generalization of all RiD bots combined, most of those bans were using the powerminer during JMod sweeps.

Also unlike other forums we have a 0% ban rate following guidelines and we do advertise it, so usually when someone does get banned they more than likely will make a post and let us know about it. But your point is valid, this isn't all the bans, and more than likely some go unreported but not a whole lot, especially since undetectability is our #1 selling point anyways. Even if we give a ridiculous figure of 50% of bans going unreported that still puts the undetectability of 0.013% per hour botted.

Its statistics and I am fairly certain my math is solid.

 

There is no ban rate. Use bots at your own risk.

 

Yup, they are indeed very different. NeXus users are very easily banned, due to the client interfering with game code, and RID is just like Scar, it reads the screen like a human would, and thinks like a human would, almost.

And their guidelines aren't ridiculously restrictive, they're more like the basic guidelines ANY botter should follow. Botting more than 12 hours a day with any bot is dumb, and is asking for a ban.

RID has the best reputation for undetectability on the ENTIRE market, and you can't start comparing NeXus and RID.

 

RID is so overrated it's not even funny, when you have managed a botting army of 20-25+ with rsbuddy and rsbots near flawlessly all year and then try RID which is stupidly overpriced you will know what I'm talking about, It doesn't even do half the randoms, I also love how they talk about such a low banrate, you hardly get banned anyway if you know what you're doing with any bot so that's incredibly invalid.

Just use simba/scar instead if you really want to bot still, but there really isn't a top dog bot around atm, I guess our hope relies in neXus, which quite frankly shit's all over RID over and over.

 

If RiD can only run 3-4 hours before logging out, then of course you'll never get banned...

 

/sigh

Some people just can't read, comprehend, and retain intelligent English sentences.

To start:

RiD has been around since 2007, with the release of MTA 1, it didn't reach it's modern level of undetectability until MTA 4, in August of 2008 where it became truely undetectable. Since August 2008, RiD has had over 600,000 hours botted by it's users, and not a single user has been banned following their Guidelines. Since Aug 2008, out of all the Guideline breakers throughout those 600,000 hours botted, only 37 bans have been issued. That's around one ban for every 16,200 hours botted throughout the community. They can claim this because the mouse movements are human, and everything a human does, RiD does. It passes all automated detection systems, and has tricked J Mods and P Mods for years. Here's a quick video of the Thieving Guild bot running on my account:

Anyone who complains of bots not working are either too stupid to actually set it up correctly, or are too lazy to open a support ticket. When people set it up properly, and properly report any errors they get, they have no problems running their bots. The only time a bot won't be working properly is if no one has taken the time to properly report an error.

After looking at hundreds of users on RiD bot over the years, the average regular botter uses around 1,000 hours per year, which is around $65. Considering that averages down to around 17.8 cents per day (granted this average would be including days you didn't bot, to average out properly, since not everyone bots every single day for the same exact period of time).

I've used RiD for 1750 hours on my main, and have 0 macro offenses, even after being reported over 30 times that I've witnessed, and even by P Mods. Easily the most advanced bot currently available on the market, and the only undetectable one. Is it worth paying one hour's worth of minimum wage salary to save you 100 of your real life time? In my opinion, yes, yes it is.



Also, in regards to ban rates, Guidelines are pretty common sense. Does a real player play more than 8 hours a day on average? Not really. And even out of the Guideline breakers, the chance of being banned is less than .001%. The only time we've ever seen people get banned were when they were pushing massive amounts of daily botted time (15+ hours a day every day for weeks or months), or when J Mods actually went into their records database and looks at specific locations, specific play-time for everyone in the area, and did physical sweeps.

And if a bot claims to be 100% undetectable, come up with a good reason why you wouldn't report a ban if you got one? We have users who have botted over 8,500 hours and not received a single macro offense. I don't think anyone can claim that from Nexus, RSBuddy, Powerbot, etc. we have around 80-100 veterans, who have botted a minimum of 1,000 hours, most of them on a single account. Lilcmp1 has used 8,500 hours, Payton has used 5,700, Owain Jones (the famous Firecaper) has used over 6,500. The thing with SCAR and Simba, sure you might be able to get a few 99's without a ban, but the only way to go fully maxed, and actually go for the elite in RS, is to use RiD.

 

Where is the proof? I can say that I created a bot and that only 1 person has been banned for 500,000 hours botted. I can make up all the statistics; wasn't it the writer Samuel Clemons who said "They're lies, damn lies, then there are statistics." The truth is any bot is going to be undetectable if you bot it correctly and aren't stupid about it. The reason why NeXuS and RSBuddy had so many bans was because people would just suicide. I mean the last week before the nuke I botted dunge 24/7 with Idunge pro on my main and it isn't banned. Lets say 120 hours in one week with no ban, and if I had 10 instances of Idungepro running for that same span that would be 1,200 and lets say only 2 get banned. Using the math that Edward used that means there would be a .16% chance of ban. I am not arguing that it isn't possible, I am just arguing that you can make statistics say anything and there needs to be hard evidence to back it up.

 

Elaborate please.

 

All these positive comments about RiD are from moderators there.
This is an honest opinion, reflective bots are always going to be better then colour bots. They're more versative and are a lot easier to code and to do bigger tasks.
RiD has a few decent bots but it is not worth it, you constantly need to baby sit their bots.
I have accounts with 150+ day game time and that have all been botted. If you bot 8 hours a day or less like the RiD guideline, I guarantee you that the popular bots in rsbots.net won't get you banned. I have even 24/7'd these accounts for months on end.
Even old bots in rsbuddy wouldn't get you banned following their guidelines.
The disadvantages of RiD weigh out the advantages. I'm legiting my accounts instead of using their over evaluated bots..
This is a non-biased opinion from a non-mod on any of the botting sites. I have used most of these bots for a long time.

 

You can't compare any bot to iDung. It's a skill that is exceedingly complex, leading to very little repetitive actions, and has 0 detection systems built into it. iDung is not undetectable, however there is nothing in place to detect it. There is a big difference.

You'll notice that if you go to the chatbox on RiD, and ask any of the active users, most of them will tell you they bot 12-20 hours a day. Right now, in the 'RiD Top Botters' section of the forums, we have users who have been botting 15-24 hours in a 24 hour period. Most of our users run the bots for as long as they can, very few actually follow guidelines. Go onto any of our more active sections of the forum and you will see many people with 'Guideline Breaker' badge on their forum posts, and many even have 'Suicide Botter' icon as well. These are based on botted time each day, and don't display the other Guidelines. There are also icons built into each forum rank that show how many free and premium hours they have botted. All botted hours are recorded and on record in a database, so in any time if a user receives a ban, RiD has access to these to show whether or not a user was breaking guidelines. RiD tells users to report bans, they try and document them as best as they can. I don't know why a user who goes to a site that claims 'undetectability' wouldn't report a ban if they got slapped with one. I've been with RiD since April of 2010, and I've only seen a handful of bans, and never one from anyone following Guidelines. Lilcmp1, after checking his Botting records, he has used over 8,500 hours, and not a single ban.

 

If you ran nexus bots with super strict guidelines like rid wants you to then the ban rate would be the same (I am referring to before this update). If I knew I could only run my bot a couple of hours a day then I would have never even got into botting in the first place

 

I'm going to take a wild guess and assume you've never read RiD's Guidelines?

http://www.robotzindisguise.com/Guidelines.htm

Take a thorough read there, buddy.

Had you ever read them, you would realize that it's actually quite reasonable, seeing as it displays exactly what a human does, because after all, to be forever undetectable, you have to replicate human behavior. Please tell me the last time you sat down on the computer and played Runescape for more than 8 hours straight, without any breaks. Yeah, that's what I thought. Jagex doesn't just look at it from a primitive point of view, they take into consideration human nature, psychology, physical limits of the human body, etc to determine whether you are botting or not. RiD does all of that for you, and the only way you would ever get banned, is if you broke any of those Guidelines, meaning it was the user's fault. The Guidelines are an outline of what is actually human. The Guidelines say around 8 hours or less of total play-time on your account per day. However, that rule is very lenient, as you could easily bot 12-15 hours a day, and then do something human to make up for it, such as don't bot the next day, or run the bot/play legit for only a few hours. When Jagex look at account they are examining for evidence of botting, they look at a long list of gameplay per day, per week, per month, etc. This can easily show them if you are botting if you are using detectable sotware such as nearly any other botn they can easily examine trends and look for random behavior, evidence of human psychology and habits. RiD replicates all of these. I've seen my bot drunk, sleepy, on adderall, high, sleep-deprived, ADHD, etc. Human nature is random. You never know what it's going to do next. Any loop scripted bot will always be detectable. You can have scripted AI, which steps the game up. RiD isn't the only one with AI built into their decision making parts of the bot, SCAR and Simba have a few talented programmers who have implemented that as well. That steps it up a lot, but isn't the whole story. You need human mouse movements. Next time you are playing runescape legit, pay attention to the way you move your mouse and how you play. Do you really move the mouse from point a to point b in a straight line? Do you really do simple polynomial equation, with perfect slopes, etc? No, of course not. The reason why RiD can stay undetected even after botting 15-20 hours a day for thousands of hours is because of it's AI, human mouse movements, and replication of all human habits and behaviors. I've yet to see any other bot out there that can claim the same. Sure they might have bits and pieces, but none have the whole thing. Jagex predicted in either 2007 or 2008 that one day there could be point when bot software becomes undetectable, and coincidentally, RiD came out with MTA 1 in 2007, and became undetectable in 2008. Jagex knows about us, and they have made blatant obvious attempts to hinder us, but they will never be able to stop us, and we break no real life laws, so they can't sue us like they did to Nexus and Kbot. RiD is older than almost all of the bot developers currently making bots, having his BaS is Computer Science and Mathematics, and been interviewed for a job placement at Jagex a few years before he started making bots. While people like Paris were starting up RSbot back in 2005, RiD could have been possibly been working on Jagex's side at the time, had he not been disgusted by Jagex's view of the userbase and snide remarks by their employees.

What year did you start botting, and how many hours have you botted on a single account without a macro offense?

For me, I started in 2008, and have botted 1800 hours with RiD, 800 hours of iDung, 1500 hours of Sorc Garden, 150 hours with Powerbot, 450 hours with Nexus, and another 300 hours of RSBuddy. That totals to 5,000 hours botted since 2008 spread out across all sites. The only place I've never received a ban from has been RiD, and you'll notice I used all the rest for fractionally smaller amounts of time. I have the experience and knowledge to be unbiased and draw up a judge of which is the better bot in terms of undetectability.

 

I have 24/7 botted multiple accounts such as a maxed melee and an almost maxed zerker with nexus and then if you count 20+ 99 hunting level 3 accounts which were also botted 24/7 and ZERO BANS / ROLLBACKS.

 

they're no good