Rework how rs account sales liability works

Have seen it talked about 1000000x times

every time, same shit

don't even bother with sl post here's what u need to 'member:

account sales are fucking dumb b/c jagex and b/c rs audience
no way to possibly prevent them from being any less shitty than the way we have it atm

it sucks but so does rs so who gives a shit, spend time on more budding markets.

 

I have created a thread in staff section so will keep everyone here posted when worth it. I do have a few ideas that may be able to create a better platform for rs account buyers/sellers.

 

Any update/mind sharing your idea? I want to move into selling accounts too and this knowledge would help.

 

I'm not sure how I feel about this in part due to the lack-of protection for the buyer. If such a system is implemented, individuals could recover accounts with impunity with the only opportunity of blame being placed in a scenario where the user re-sells the account.

Don't confuse this with me being happy with the current system and while I am open to change, I think somewhere in the middle is needed; however, I am not sure how to go about that..

 

yeah Tmoe that is the case, but it's the same thing as when you buy gold from a goldsite, you give them the money up front, and risk being scammed. big members/goldsites/ wont scam, and it would eliminate the 'scammers' from selling all their accs and recovering, because all acc sales would go to the major trusted members

 

@ me next time

From there I think the big difference is the type of trade occurring. Gold sales are instant and it is often easily proveable you were scammed; however, account sales are meant to be permanent and I see a lot more real than fake recovery reports.

I think it is very wishful thinking for scammers to suddenly stop selling their accounts and I don't see it happening (why wouldn't it increase if they're not held liable)? When it comes to accounts in particular, I always suggest only buying from truly trusted members.

 

"Another thing i'm wondering is if you write a contract with the buyer of the account stating that they are in full responsibility of the account after it's sold, would that prevent the possibility of people staging getting recovered and losing money, and granting the seller the insurance of not needing to worry about that?"

This is completely unfair to the buyer. If it were allowed to simply make 'contracts' stating what you said, I'd pave the way to a even higher scam rate than already exists.

If this were allowed, literally everyone, honest traders and scammers alike, would use it when selling an account and simply free themselves from any liability concerning account recovery. So, yes, you'd be protected in the case that someone pretends the account was recovered and wants a refund, but the scammers would too be protected when recovering the account, as they could simply deny any involvement and cite the "contract" you talk about.

Not only this, being "highly trusted" is HIGHLY subjective, so they can't make a rule that only applies to "trusted" users, as it too would be unfair, cause problems and simply not allow for up and coming members in the market section to thrive, thus further diminishing the market section activity in the long run.

This is the best suggestion I've seen so far. Only that it almost always requires that you be the original owner of the account. Either that or re-sell knowing you bought from someone highly trusted that won't recover and provided you with legit creation/recovery details.

In the end, I honestly don't see a way the system can be bettered unless Jagex changes the way account recovery works. The ONLY way to assure that the buyer & seller are both equally protected is if the person selling the account is the original owner + you do what dunworry said. Why? If the buyer ever claims to have lost the account, as original owner you can always aid in the recovery process and get it back. And if for some reason the seller, as original owner, unfaithfully recovers account then we know who's liable and who to punish.

Other than that, I don't see why jagex would re-work how account recoveries work. If anything, making it increasingly difficult to buy/sell accounts is in their best interest.

 

Also to clarify, if you write in your Terms of Service that you are not liable after selling the account, it won't do anything. Sythe rules override your terms of service, therefore you would still be liable

 

There's simply no good way to do this aside from buying from trusted sellers at a low level and then train yourself. Even then there's a chance that they'll still recover it in the future. In my experiences, I haven't had a single account that wasn't reclaimed unless they were basic accounts that I had to train the rest of the way.

 

When i first joined this site, I was planning on buying a high level account. But then I went to "Report a Scammer Archive" and saw the hundreds of reports of "Account recovered" and i was like fuck that, and so i just made my own account.

 

Always is the best thing to do. When jagex started releasing micro-transactions i really thought that was going to be the open door of people being able to trade/sell runescape accounts eventually and completely transfer account ownership but nope.

 

Closing this. This will not happen.