Require people to post from a home IP before posting a max main rental thread

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  1. Unread #1 - Aug 15, 2017 at 11:44 AM
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    Require people to post from a home IP before posting a max main rental thread

    Buying/selling gold requires thread verification to prevent scammers and imposters so why can't account rentals have the same?

    The same max main rental scammers make new accounts on a VPN/Proxy and create their thread and end up scamming people over and over so I believe making the forum moderated will help this a lot.
     
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  3. Unread #2 - Aug 15, 2017 at 12:37 PM
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    Require people to post from a home IP before posting a max main rental thread

    If they don't post from a home IP they are already issued a TWC.
     
  5. Unread #3 - Aug 15, 2017 at 12:40 PM
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    Require people to post from a home IP before posting a max main rental thread

    This doesn't prevent it, I've seen many TWCs in the past week given by not using a home IP and people still use their max main rental services.

    Yeah I meant thread moderation oops
     
  9. Unread #5 - Aug 15, 2017 at 1:16 PM
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    Require people to post from a home IP before posting a max main rental thread

    If someone chooses to trade with someone with a TWC and not find out the reasoning for the TWC that is on them. We can't babysit everyone to make sure they're using smart trading.
     
  11. Unread #6 - Aug 15, 2017 at 2:39 PM
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    Require people to post from a home IP before posting a max main rental thread

    I think the suggestion is effective, both it's not worth the effort. Maybe if it were automated.

    But what has been said already: the TWC is effective enough. We cannot spend so much effort monitoring to that scale. If someone is scammed by someone with a TWC, it is their own fault.
     
  13. Unread #7 - Aug 15, 2017 at 2:39 PM
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    Require people to post from a home IP before posting a max main rental thread

    Can't support this as much as I would love to see it,
    some people use the forums for other reason besides market,
    and some of these people don't use pc , the only way they can join is using a phone ip,
    which would disable them from joining if this passed,
    sadly it loses Vader or loses these small select few.
     
  15. Unread #8 - Aug 15, 2017 at 3:09 PM
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    Require people to post from a home IP before posting a max main rental thread

    Support having these threads moderated, think people would complain too much about the home IP requirement though.
     
  17. Unread #9 - Aug 15, 2017 at 3:16 PM
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    Require people to post from a home IP before posting a max main rental thread

    Support in having the account rental section on a moderation status.

    Personally I believe posting at least once from a Home IP should be a minimum requirement that should be automated for the entire website (although I'm not sure if it's possible).

    I haven't checked in on the section in a long time, so I'm not sure if these soon to be scammers are getting issued TWC's quickly. If so, then I think that's a strong deterrent. If people choose to deal with a brand new Sythe member that has a TWC then it's their own fault.
     
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  19. Unread #10 - Aug 15, 2017 at 3:31 PM
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    Main issue with that, is what about people whom only have access to hotspots or possibly at university. Posting from a home IP or requiring it isn't realistic.
     
  21. Unread #11 - Aug 15, 2017 at 3:48 PM
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    Require people to post from a home IP before posting a max main rental thread

    Hey but how can someone not post from there home ip? you mean like them connecting to like a supermarkt or library wifi and posting? if so, why u guys dont just ban all public wifis XD
     
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    Require people to post from a home IP before posting a max main rental thread

    I'd rather have the people who can't find a home IP to post from suffer (Which I believe is a pretty low number and of that low number, how many are even legit users that aren't ban evaders/scammers). So that we could provide a large hinderance to the gigantic ban evader and scammer problems on Sythe. But that's getting off topic I think.
     
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    Require people to post from a home IP before posting a max main rental thread

    What if there was some encrypted system where to rent an account the Owner of the runescape staking account have to enter the login name and have it registered with the system, nobody can publicly see the login information due to encryption.

    Then make it a rule so when a buyer wants to rent an account, they enter the username the Owner gives them, enter the profile link of who's renting it to them, and if it's a match then it gives them a success message. If not it gives a red flag and auto reports/TWCs/bans/infracts the owner as a suspected scammer.

    Then when people do scam, the login name of the runescape account remains as blacklisted in the system so the Owner cannot register the name from vader accounts.

    Should the Owner/scammer of the account want to lease the account on sythe again, then he/she must go through the appeal process and refund any past victims.
     
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  27. Unread #14 - Aug 17, 2017 at 9:55 AM
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    Require people to post from a home IP before posting a max main rental thread

    Completely changed my opinion on this last night with recent scam's,
    despite it being a free market,
    I think this need to be cracked down on,
    I support.
     
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  29. Unread #15 - Aug 17, 2017 at 11:52 AM
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    Require people to post from a home IP before posting a max main rental thread

    Considering how much of a shitshow the account rental market has become, I would definitely support it falling into moderated status, which is basically what you're requesting here. Might cut down a bit on the scams and would definitely free up some of the clutter in there from the new threads made by vaders every 1 or 2 days.
     
  31. Unread #16 - Aug 17, 2017 at 12:02 PM
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    Require people to post from a home IP before posting a max main rental thread

    Full support members are being scammed for absurd amounts of money, moderation is needed there.
     
  33. Unread #17 - Aug 17, 2017 at 12:18 PM
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    Require people to post from a home IP before posting a max main rental thread

    People will always find ways to evade, it's about being smart with whom you're trading with. This won't stop the problem. People will find ways around it.
     
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    Require people to post from a home IP before posting a max main rental thread

    Bump I want something done about this, it doesn't have to be what I originally stated but something to prevent it
     
  37. Unread #19 - Aug 19, 2017 at 7:50 PM
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    Require people to post from a home IP before posting a max main rental thread

    tbh just rent from ppl with 100+ donater or something
     
  39. Unread #20 - Aug 19, 2017 at 9:10 PM
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    Require people to post from a home IP before posting a max main rental thread

    Not sure if you're suggesting that as a rule being implemented, or in general for your safety. In regards to the ruling, that would be terrible for Sythe to have people being forced to donate $ to be able to offer rental services, and ruin the free market ideal here. If that's just a suggestion to be safe I mean sure, but you shouldn't trust someone just because of their donator rank. Vouches, and activity in the market stand out more to me. In terms of the implementation I really like the idea @sj709 regardless of what form it would be implemented in it would stop ban evaders from recreating rental threads to put users at more risk in the market. Similar to the home IP TWC idea I think it would be a really good implementation, great suggestion.
     
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