Report A Scammer/Spammer

[DaveyB]

Before you retards looking to raise your post count decide to reply and say something along the lines of 'You cannot suggest more Moderators' etc, read the thread for once and realise I am not suggesting that.
My suggestion is, that every user can reply to topics made in Report A Scammer/Spammer sections. Obviously I realise this would cause chaos if my suggestion was just that, and that people who are nothing to do with the situation would use it as a way to gain easy post count. Thats is why my suggestion goes a bit more in depth, if possible is to sort of tag involved users.
Basically, if you report somebody in either section, you must type the username of the offender in the title, and somehow this tag should allow that username to post replies on the thread.
This is just basically because a while back somebody reported me, but I could not reply, so I had to make a seperate topic to give my side of the story. In the event of somebody faking proof or a Moderator making a mistake and banning somebody that has been reported, they would then have to make a thread in the dispute forum, and the fact they are banned, even if they get unbanned, will reduce their credibility on Sythe. I believe this could all be sorted by allowing involved users to post their side of the story on the same thread.
If it is not possible to tag users and only allow them to post, you could make it so anybody can post, but make a sticky clearly stating that only involved users may post on each thread, and introduce a strict punishment for anybody who disobeys the rules, for example an instant 1 week ban.

Thoughts?

 

[Krayzie-Bone]

Firstly, why did you post this topic 4 times?

Second, I can sort of agree where you're going from there. I can understand that you need to support your part when you have an allegation against you, but the thing is, even if everyone is posting in regards to the issue, it still causes too much unnecessary work for the people who need to read the topics, verify the issue, and make the necessary actions.

The Moderators and Administrators have enough to do on their own, but they can't really afford reading through all the useless replies in the spammer/scammer section JUST to see what the real topic was. They gotta now either read it all or scroll to find it. They do enough as it is, don't put them through that.

Really, the only initiative is that you should just post an entirely new thread in the appeal section, that is the reason it's there. There is no other way, they thought it out.

 

[Jman17]

Before you retards looking to raise your post count decide to reply and say something along the lines.....

1. If you want people to read your topic and agree, I suggest you not call them retards.

2. You're the one who posted like seven threads.

 

[DaveyB]

Yes I apologise for posting numerous threads, but it kept saying it wasn't posted and in the end posted many times.
Also what do you suggest I call those people who post useless nonsense on a thread for the +1 postcount? Spastics maybe?

In reply to Krayzie, I don't see that it would be a problem, infact less of a problem. If a thread is posted about a user, they should be able to reply with their own version of events, obviously their must be rules to stop arguments breaking out, and just ensure that both sides have been posted so Moderators can make a mor informed decision.
I believe that since you can't reply, if you then make a thread in the dispute forum, or a thread of your own in the RaS section, you are then giving Moderators another thread to read through. Surely it's better to have the whole issue on 1 thread instead of spread out. Reports are already not a favourite for the current Moderators, but if they had to read thrugh several threads for 1 report, I believe they would take alot longer to reply to reports, as first off they have to fin the patience to piece together seperate threads.

 

[FireZ]

7 threads was because of lag...


If there is proof and your banned then why the hell do you need to defend yourself, when you can't?

 

[DaveyB]

Screenshots can be edited etc, theres always the chance that you may need to defend yourself, but unfortunately cannot do so on the original thread.

 

Even if your idea was possible, which it isn't, I don't think it would work well. Essentially you'd be making a thread where the two parties could beat each other up and not get anything productive done. Each side would stick to their story and flame the other (making more work for staff).

 

[Jman17]

Screenshots can be edited etc, theres always the chance that you may need to defend yourself, but unfortunately cannot do so on the original thread.

It's easy to tell if screenshots are edited.

 

[DaveyB]

Tbh I could edit a screenshot in seconds and make it flawless. And Nick, as I said their would have to be strict rules about flaming, you give each user the chance to give their side of the story, and thats it, posts after that should be infracted. Just would make it easier in my opinion.

 

[FireZ]

I know what you mean but only 1 party needs to have a say in it.


Either prove it = ban, or don't = no ban.


The mods don't ban without sufficient proof.

 

[Jman17]

I know what you mean but only 1 party needs to have a say in it.


Either prove it = ban, or don't = no ban.


The mods don't ban without sufficient proof.

Yeah, this is true.

Also, if you really want to get out of a ban / ban someone, you should use hypercam.

Always take screenshots. If both users supply screenshots, it will be fine.

Moderators CBA anymore to tell people to do this

 

[DaveyB]

What I'm saying is for example:
Somebody posts a thread accusing you of scamming, and posts edited screenshots. You then want to post the real screenshots, but need to make another thread, thus giving the moderators more work to do.
Videos of whole trades may be very long, and as stated in stickes moderators will not watch a hugely long video, and some people like myself, would not know how to shorten the video to just the important parts.

 

[FireZ]

If you were banned due to edited screens, which hardly happens upon my observation of the banned disputes forum, you would just go there, make a post and Sin would come along and unban you if you had proof you were right.

Your still covered. Might take a few hours but in the end all would be well.


Anyways the average user on this site couldn't make a post simply stating there side of the story without major flaming...

 

[DaveyB]

It would take a few hours thats unecessary, and cause more posts for oderators to reply to.
Flaming could be kept at bay if strict rules were involved, and punishments were carried out for anybody who breaks the rules.

 

[Sin666]

A fake report is not only time consuming, but there really isn't much motive for it, unless the user being accused is well-known (an MM, staff, etc), or is posting a counter-report. It just doesn't happen with the sort of regularity that would make the change worthwhile. Even more generally, of the disputes that are posted, it's only once in a blue moon that one is successful.

Opening the RaS forum to replies would only allow flame wars, and useless, unsubstantiated denials.

 

[Jman17]

What I'm saying is for example:
Somebody posts a thread accusing you of scamming, and posts edited screenshots. You then want to post the real screenshots, but need to make another thread, thus giving the moderators more work to do.
Videos of whole trades may be very long, and as stated in stickes moderators will not watch a hugely long video, and some people like myself, would not know how to shorten the video to just the important parts.

I still say no.

If you get banned, you will just have to make a dispute for your ban. That's what the dispute forum is there for.