Reform the "Not Participating in Spam Forum Rule"

As of now, a user who had participated in the spam forum (and also viciously attacked people) can decide to not participate anymore and get a free pass by locking any threads where his or her name is mentioned.

I suggest that if a user has willingly participated in the spam forum in the past, he or she is locked in and doesn't get to "withdraw" at a later date of his or her choosing. Please discuss.

Example: The banner of autism - starring bus369

The user in question has, in the past, as recently as August, attacked people and participated in the Spam forum. Just because he doesn't have time or the will to participate now, he's locking all threads that even mention his name. I think the rule is complete horseshit, and the community should decide if it wants to overturn this rule as the Spam forum is a community driven section.

According to a Richard ruling, evidence based discussion, even if it does "attack" a user, is allowed even if the user is not participating in the Spam forum. Just something to keep in mind as well.

 

Define vicious attack lol

The thread was a picture of spelling mistakes in his banner, hardly vicious

 

I agree, but for some reason, he has staff by the balls. I never understood it.

I think @FlyingToast said it best:

"After all these years, scam reports, bans, failed marketing attempts, lies, confusion and empty promises, bus somehow still has the staff team under his finger lol

inb4 this thread is locked / deleted"

 

Not to sure but aren’t factual threads allowed? Im sure Sythe made a ruling on this thread with that reasoning, would like some clarification please. Many reasons not to deal/trade with Divine/Bus369
edit: Didn't realise you just bumped this admires

 

Yes, Richard stated that evidence based discussion, even if it is attacking a user not participating in the spam forum, is allowed. So I'm not quite sure why staff keeps locking evidence based threads.

 

I support this, criticizing an advertisement with spelling mistakes shouldn't be an issue as long as you're not personally attacking people/death threats, I think the spam section should allow a bit more criticism, and I support this thread. It's the spam section for a reason, hell even make us post a disclaimer saying we don't care if people shit-talk us before we post in the spam section lol.

 

I have been assured by administration I will not be able to be harassed any further by this community so this thread will be irrelevant either way to me personally.

I don't blame them either - Every time a thread appears it starts a battle between us all and frankly we're all sick of dealing with it.

I stay out of trouble and play by Sythes rules(Edit:Mostly) - U want to try to modify those rules to target me its not going to work.

Simple, after dozens of problems the games over, I stay out of trouble(edit2:mostly), staff keep the drama away - We all win.

It's also why I'm immune to the false advertisement rule unless otherwise decided by @video or I violate it in his eyes.

Go back to ur cave.

P.S - My UT's 6 months is up today(The irony of this thread being made today) - Which means bus369 no longer exists - I've also had most of the results struck off google - Soon no trace will remain.

The saddest part is that I've did 1000 legitimate transactions for every 1 scam report(Which every single one has been Fake/Resolved) but everyone forgets this. - I Counted the amount of total reports vs transactions done - Its closer to 2,000 but I'll use 1,000.

 

Have you ever given thought as to why people seem to find solace in 'attacking' you, more so laugh at things you do?

You carry yourself with an air of superiority around you, are extremely egotistical, belittle others constantly (either by how you respond to them/treat them), come of extremely abrasive in nature, and finally believe you are always right.

The icing on the cake is, nearly everytime I've seen you post something, you've been heavily uninformed, take things out of context or have been flat out wrong. You then take offense to people stating when the above is prevalent, and play the victim card, when in actuality, you're the perpetrator.

The above may be offtopic, but perhaps learn to be a civil human being, and then potentially people will treat you as they do others.

 

Actually I have.

I've asked myself on every report I've ever had - Was I in the wrong and if I could do it again - Would I believe or feel differently then I did the day the report was made.

Most of my ego is merely a defensive mechanism - When you appear humble you tend to become prey in this industry - & frankly I do have an ego - I could retire at age 20 - I will never want for anything and its completely self-made. I went from making $0.25 an hour at 14 to being able to retire on a solid 6-7 figure nest egg @ 20 years old and I did it ALL myself. I never had ANYONES help and I don't need anyones help. Independence and success may make me cocky but be assured I earned every dime of that ego but having an ego doesn't mean I don't care about people - I wouldn't want my worst enemy to be scammed and I go WAY out of my way vs other gold sites in reporting people and protecting this community. I've anti scammed well over probably $2000+ at this point whether privately or publicly - Most of these have caused me nothing but drama/issues but I still did it for this community - I'm no saint but I don't always have an ego and I can set it aside at times.

When I feel I didn't do the upmost amount of work I could to prevent a scam report or I failed to do what I should of - That is when I will no longer speak about my haters.

The fact is at the end of the day I know if I had to go back and do every one of those reports I had made on me again because I feel the same way I did back then to this day, when that changes I'll stop disagreeing with you.

I often play devils advocate which makes me unpopular - I don't give a shit about colored CDT names but I will always provide the opposite side if someone else doesn't(As an example).

 

Rules like this pain me the most to decide one way or another because I think it's such a case by case basis type issue.

If you posted a few memes a few months ago and then people are making threads that push the limits of trolling to being complete dicks and slander then I feel like that person should be able to say that they aren't willingly participating and want it to stop.

But if you go call everyone a bitch and then the next day say you no longer want anyone to be able to post anything about you, that's just being a pansy.

So I support, but not really?

 

You just proved @SellerMan was right... Nobody asked

 

Oh man...you're not helping yourself.

Do you see people far, FAR more successful than you and I constantly posting about their successes? I.e Bogla, r2p, arcus, and many more. Be humble, stop being a prick, and take note that measuring success is in the eye of the beholder.

Look at the worlds most successful people - they are respected by the masses as they treat everyone with respect, are humble, and understand the notion that respect is earned.

The thing is, your ego is only a small portion of said problem. Refer to what I said above in my initial post. Bolded it for you - there is more than just one issue.

 

They don't interact with this community, its easy to judge people better when you see them on half a dozen posts vs 20,000.

People consider Arcus and others better people yet they support literal slave labor out in China while I sit paying taxes and Americans.

You judge me against people you don't know, sure some of them are good people but nobody here who hates me as even tried getting to know me, not even once lol.

You judge me based over 20,000 posts ranging from age what, 15? Perhaps you should examine what you pass judgement on if you consider every post a strike against me and have never even bothered to get to know me.

I am such a bad man but over what? 25 workers I've had 2 ever complain/report me? I've had guys I've employed for 3+ years. I'm a bad person because I get defensive when someone attacks my business? I get defensive because people name others better than me when infact in terms of taxes,workers, pay, and more I outstrip far better than others. I'm a bad person because I've had a lot of reports? Every single of which I've personally handled to competition and resolution? I'm a bad person but here I sit over 4 years later with 100,000+ transactions under my belt.

I would consider what you judge by rather than what I do on a single forum. Nobody who "hates" me has ever even known me lol.

 

Once again, you ignore what I said. I never called you a 'bad man'. I stated the obviously evident issues you have, that correlate to how you're perceived and treated.

Literally everything you posted is irrelevant to what I said. You refuse to accept fault.

Anyway, GL to you. This convo will go nowhere.

 

Considering Op is literally targeting me - He literally posted a link and the entire suggestion is nothing but a personal attack on me I'd say its warranted.

 

Either way I'd still maintain that this isn't the place to argue who is or isn't arrogant and egotistical. But carry on, rules aren't as strict as they used to be so not like it REALLY matters.

 

If memory serves, this isn't a frequent enough issue for a codified ruling and would be looked at on a case-by-case basis. Someone cannot continually be active in the spam forum and just go "I'm being viciously attacked remove everything!"; however, if a user is no-longer active in the spam forum, I don't see an issue with having threads targeting them removed. I believe there's a 3 month threshold for anything to be removed; albeit, I am not sure if that is correct.

August was also 6 months ago. That is hardly a recent use of the spam forum.

The multiple bannings of Bus would lead me to believe the contrary and the variety of bus-related-shit-storms has been a pain for staff to handle.

 

I dont think this rule should even be a thing, just ignore it if you dont wanna participate in it, it's called a spam forum for a reason

 

Why are you able to say Arcus evades taxes and uses chinese slave labour? This is a much worse accusation than your banner having spelling mistakes in my opinion. Not sure why you think its fine to target specific people with accusations and then not expect to be targeted yourself.

For the other point, its probably better to just leave it as is, certain people on this forum love to team up and start bullying people. If someone has decided to not participate, they shouldn't be brought back in to be made fun of.