Hello, sythe user Pingy ( pingy ) had accused me of attempt of scam towards him through using an alt account to bet on him. What really happened, however, is Pingy did scam a bettor.
How our provably fair bot works: Pingy and another host were the only two who has ever had access to the bot. Rigging the outcome of a roll is IMPOSSIBLE, however you can see what a person will roll their next bet. All hosts agreeing from the start no one should have access to the server except 1 host. However Pingy was made server owner of the bot due by our coder meaning he's had access this entire time.
Thursday, December 20th, a bettor comes to bet on him claiming to be a host from another server with the intention of betting high (relying on pure luck) to frame another host (me) of rolling my own bets on pingy. The bettor is own over 1k, and pingy knows this.
Pingy did not pay the bettor out due to accusations of being another host. However after a few days i've finally gotten access to the bot myself which logs past log-ins and from the IP done so. These are the results:
https://i.imgur.com/WkEpyiB.png (if a sythe admin/ mod wants the unedited version I will happily show that as well, not even just that I will provide the details to check for themselves).
Now as you can see to roll in our server, it requires creating a seed. The bettor in which pingy claims was me created his seed 7:32 AM on Dec 20th. Had i been the bettor rolling on him, i'd need to log in the bot (which i didn't have access to) and look at the rolls. Referring back to https://i.imgur.com/WkEpyiB.png You can see the only time the bot was logged in was Dec 20th, 12:56 AM aka 00:56, almost 7 hours prior to the bettor. after the seed was created you can see no logins for 2 whole days afterwards. Had these bets been arranged would require a login of the bot to view rolls.
https://i.imgur.com/uWWCKEq.png bets were taken around the same time it was created.
I would've posted this earlier, but it wasn't until yesterday the bettor using the alt had finally accepted my friend request where this conversation took place: https://i.imgur.com/2XZo0Nx.png
the image he sent shows pingy refusing to pay which he himself has already admitted: Screenshot - 407faf50ef6ab6b36be9e3fda2945491 - Gyazo
Now, pingy's counter will be that the bot was moved the day before (10-12hours before this bettor took place). However the bot was only switched servers, it's the exact same bot as before which is why bettors were never required to make new client seeds (which is mandatory) before rolling. Also the bot is provably fair meaning these rolls are able to be verified. He also was given access to this server as well, and of course if a sythe admin would like to log in themselves to check if the bots were similar i'll gladly prove that aswell.
To sum it up, the bettor had wrong intentions, however, his bets were still 100% fair and yet was scammed by Pingy.
How our provably fair bot works: Pingy and another host were the only two who has ever had access to the bot. Rigging the outcome of a roll is IMPOSSIBLE, however you can see what a person will roll their next bet. All hosts agreeing from the start no one should have access to the server except 1 host. However Pingy was made server owner of the bot due by our coder meaning he's had access this entire time.
Thursday, December 20th, a bettor comes to bet on him claiming to be a host from another server with the intention of betting high (relying on pure luck) to frame another host (me) of rolling my own bets on pingy. The bettor is own over 1k, and pingy knows this.
Pingy did not pay the bettor out due to accusations of being another host. However after a few days i've finally gotten access to the bot myself which logs past log-ins and from the IP done so. These are the results:
https://i.imgur.com/WkEpyiB.png (if a sythe admin/ mod wants the unedited version I will happily show that as well, not even just that I will provide the details to check for themselves).
Now as you can see to roll in our server, it requires creating a seed. The bettor in which pingy claims was me created his seed 7:32 AM on Dec 20th. Had i been the bettor rolling on him, i'd need to log in the bot (which i didn't have access to) and look at the rolls. Referring back to https://i.imgur.com/WkEpyiB.png You can see the only time the bot was logged in was Dec 20th, 12:56 AM aka 00:56, almost 7 hours prior to the bettor. after the seed was created you can see no logins for 2 whole days afterwards. Had these bets been arranged would require a login of the bot to view rolls.
https://i.imgur.com/uWWCKEq.png bets were taken around the same time it was created.
I would've posted this earlier, but it wasn't until yesterday the bettor using the alt had finally accepted my friend request where this conversation took place: https://i.imgur.com/2XZo0Nx.png
the image he sent shows pingy refusing to pay which he himself has already admitted: Screenshot - 407faf50ef6ab6b36be9e3fda2945491 - Gyazo
Now, pingy's counter will be that the bot was moved the day before (10-12hours before this bettor took place). However the bot was only switched servers, it's the exact same bot as before which is why bettors were never required to make new client seeds (which is mandatory) before rolling. Also the bot is provably fair meaning these rolls are able to be verified. He also was given access to this server as well, and of course if a sythe admin would like to log in themselves to check if the bots were similar i'll gladly prove that aswell.
To sum it up, the bettor had wrong intentions, however, his bets were still 100% fair and yet was scammed by Pingy.
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