Really paranoid about a purchased account :(

[BiggieSmalls28]

I have played RuneScape on and off throughout the years, first played way back in like 2007 or something, when osrs launched mobile in 2018/2019 I started playing again, I made an account but the combat felt like such a slog and a grind, I didn't wanna be killing chickens and goblins forever lol, so I brought 1m starting cash and an account from eldorado with decent att/str/Def but no other stats at all, I just really didn't want to grind out the combat stats. Shortly after buying the account I got a minor ban for macroing so I'm assuming it was a mass made botted account. The ban was lifted/overturned when I appealed, which is positive I guess, I'm sure if they saw then that it was a brought account they could've just banned it all the way back then. The seller did have good feedback and loads of sales so I thought it was relatively safe. I didn't play loads at the time and eventually stopped playing.

I have recently got back into the game and started using this account again, I've grinded it up to around 1000-1250 total level and I'm really enjoying the game again, got mems for the first time and it's great, then the stupid mistake I made previously hit me, I could be putting in all this work and then go on to lose the account for RWT, or it get recovered. It's really been bugging me since I thought about it and because it's not like I even brought an amazing account I literally just brought a basic one to skip the early combat grind.

Now I've thought about upgrading to a Jagex account for security reasons to avoid recovery from the seller, but it specifically says only upgrade an account YOU created. Which makes me worry about the potential for a ban, I've browsed some forums and Reddit and people say bans are unlikely unless the seller tries to recover the account and Jagex realises its a sold account and either bans or gives it back to the seller. But there are also numerous threads of people upgrading and losing the account.

Since making all this progress on the account I am super super paranoid and worried about losing it. After seeing how people behave on Reddit I didn't want to post there, although what they are saying does resonate with me, I shouldn't have made that mistake in the first place and just accepted the grind, but I was kinda just trying out the game again and didn't know that years later I would come back and make this account good. In my eyes this is my account? I grinded all these levels but I guess I'm the eyes of Jagex and Reddit the original owner is the real owner... It just really bothers me, I don't wanna lose the account.

Can anybody give me advice? Anyone been in a similar situation? Should I upgrade to a Jagex account? Or is that just asking for trouble? Should I just keep playing and hope for the best? Should I scrap the account and start again? I just don't know what to do or think. I've also heard that they chain ban sometimes, since joining I've joined a clan and I even worry that I've put them at risk aswell, I'm too scared to admit to anybody in game about this stuff even my close clan buddies.

Apologies because I'm sure this stuff gets asked all the time but I'm just really paranoid and worried, I have read thru different threads but I don't see a situation super similar to mine. I'm sure I'm overthinking it and getting way too paranoid but it bothers me. Am I super at risk for ban/recovery?

If anybody has any advice or could help put my mind at ease I would really appreciate it.

 

If you’ve had the account since 2019 and it was a reputable seller, you’re probably okay. Definitely don’t make a Jagex account. If I were you I would keep the account as a back up and create another account. Bot your new account for the next 6 months using Sammich and you’ll have a mid/end game account ready to go in case yours gets recovered. Just be smart and don’t suicide bot. I’ve botted one account to maxed and am working on a second right now. I literally don’t do anything legit on the account except for quests. Good luck!

 

[BuckshotAvery]

If you’ve had the account since 2019 and it was a reputable seller, you’re probably okay. Definitely don’t make a Jagex account. If I were you I would keep the account as a back up and create another account. Bot your new account for the next 6 months using Sammich and you’ll have a mid/end game account ready to go in case yours gets recovered. Just be smart and don’t suicide bot. I’ve botted one account to maxed and am working on a second right now. I literally don’t do anything legit on the account except for quests. Good luck!

Could you fill me in on Sammich?

 

Could you fill me in on Sammich?

I don’t know if I can post links here, but if you google Sammich Scripts, you’ll find it. Just respect their botting guide, some scripts are riskier than others and require close monitoring. Some not at all. I maxed all combat stats in a month with their NMZ script. Sometimes even botting as much as 12 hours a day.

 

The account will always have recovery risk no matter what additional security measures you take, but if you bought from a seller with a very good reputation and sales volume then your risk SHOULD be lower.

An alternative would be to make your own account from your home IP, and then pay others to train it up and do quests etc in the early stages. Of course this will cost money/gold, but it is another option to get a head start.

 

[thescumlord]

I only buy accounts to bot on, make a main yourself etc. "safer" haha.

 

I have played RuneScape on and off throughout the years, first played way back in like 2007 or something, when osrs launched mobile in 2018/2019 I started playing again, I made an account but the combat felt like such a slog and a grind, I didn't wanna be killing chickens and goblins forever lol, so I brought 1m starting cash and an account from eldorado with decent att/str/Def but no other stats at all, I just really didn't want to grind out the combat stats. Shortly after buying the account I got a minor ban for macroing so I'm assuming it was a mass made botted account. The ban was lifted/overturned when I appealed, which is positive I guess, I'm sure if they saw then that it was a brought account they could've just banned it all the way back then. The seller did have good feedback and loads of sales so I thought it was relatively safe. I didn't play loads at the time and eventually stopped playing.

I have recently got back into the game and started using this account again, I've grinded it up to around 1000-1250 total level and I'm really enjoying the game again, got mems for the first time and it's great, then the stupid mistake I made previously hit me, I could be putting in all this work and then go on to lose the account for RWT, or it get recovered. It's really been bugging me since I thought about it and because it's not like I even brought an amazing account I literally just brought a basic one to skip the early combat grind.

Now I've thought about upgrading to a Jagex account for security reasons to avoid recovery from the seller, but it specifically says only upgrade an account YOU created. Which makes me worry about the potential for a ban, I've browsed some forums and Reddit and people say bans are unlikely unless the seller tries to recover the account and Jagex realises its a sold account and either bans or gives it back to the seller. But there are also numerous threads of people upgrading and losing the account.

Since making all this progress on the account I am super super paranoid and worried about losing it. After seeing how people behave on Reddit I didn't want to post there, although what they are saying does resonate with me, I shouldn't have made that mistake in the first place and just accepted the grind, but I was kinda just trying out the game again and didn't know that years later I would come back and make this account good. In my eyes this is my account? I grinded all these levels but I guess I'm the eyes of Jagex and Reddit the original owner is the real owner... It just really bothers me, I don't wanna lose the account.

Can anybody give me advice? Anyone been in a similar situation? Should I upgrade to a Jagex account? Or is that just asking for trouble? Should I just keep playing and hope for the best? Should I scrap the account and start again? I just don't know what to do or think. I've also heard that they chain ban sometimes, since joining I've joined a clan and I even worry that I've put them at risk aswell, I'm too scared to admit to anybody in game about this stuff even my close clan buddies.

Apologies because I'm sure this stuff gets asked all the time but I'm just really paranoid and worried, I have read thru different threads but I don't see a situation super similar to mine. I'm sure I'm overthinking it and getting way too paranoid but it bothers me. Am I super at risk for ban/recovery?

If anybody has any advice or could help put my mind at ease I would really appreciate it.

There's nothing to protect you from recovery if it comes to bought accounts. Original owner will always have priority of recovery.

 

I know this is not what you want to hear but I purchased 2 accounts in 2018 that were max combat stats (99att strength hp and def) from a fairly reputable seller on sythe @crazypipe crazypipe | Sell & Trade Game Items | OSRS Gold | ELO (sythe.org) and also had a main with 70 base levels at the time. I mainly bought these accounts to stake on, but it became clear to me shortly after having billions of gp from staking I might just max the accounts (by hand) and sell them. So fast forward to 8-10 months ago when the accounts had base 90's almost every diary completed and had less than a year left before complete max the accounts get recovered and @crazypipe goes rouge on sythe scamming back all the accounts they sold and receive a DNT. I now have been using sammich scripts from sythe to max my real 18-year-old main acc and its now only 1 skill from being a maxed acc. Simply put do not trust anyone with buying an account unless you deem the account expendable or plan on using it for botting, the only way you could make it as safe as humanly possible is using a reputable seller who is the original owner, who provides you access to the original email for account creation upon buying the account and gives all information for recovery such as creation ip / location and you are able to verify this information is correct. I'd also like to heavily vouch for Sammich OSRS AHK COLOR BOT | 90+ BOT SCRIPTS+PVP COMBOS | Runelite+Mobile Emulator| $40/285M Lifetime Key | Sell & Trade Game Items | OSRS Gold | ELO (sythe.org) For being the safest botting I have ever used, and making RuneScape life

 

[papercut]

I know this is not what you want to hear but I purchased 2 accounts in 2018 that were max combat stats (99att strength hp and def) from a fairly reputable seller on sythe @crazypipe crazypipe | Sell & Trade Game Items | OSRS Gold | ELO (sythe.org) and also had a main with 70 base levels at the time. I mainly bought these accounts to stake on, but it became clear to me shortly after having billions of gp from staking I might just max the accounts (by hand) and sell them. So fast forward to 8-10 months ago when the accounts had base 90's almost every diary completed and had less than a year left before complete max the accounts get recovered and @crazypipe goes rouge on sythe scamming back all the accounts they sold and receive a DNT. I now have been using sammich scripts from sythe to max my real 18-year-old main acc and its now only 1 skill from being a maxed acc. Simply put do not trust anyone with buying an account unless you deem the account expendable or plan on using it for botting, the only way you could make it as safe as humanly possible is using a reputable seller who is the original owner, who provides you access to the original email for account creation upon buying the account and gives all information for recovery such as creation ip / location and you are able to verify this information is correct. I'd also like to heavily vouch for Sammich OSRS AHK COLOR BOT | 90+ BOT SCRIPTS+PVP COMBOS | Runelite+Mobile Emulator| $40/285M Lifetime Key | Sell & Trade Game Items | OSRS Gold | ELO (sythe.org) For being the safest botting I have ever used, and making RuneScape life

Was the account upgraded to a Jagex Account?

The "original email" is the old login e-mail, right?

 

Was the account upgraded to a Jagex Account?

The "original email" is the old login e-mail, right?

No, it wasn't, only because I thought 2auth on the acc was good enough and had the account for years already on my home IP using my cc to buy membership etc etc. A Jagex account can possibly supply you with an extra step of security. But... nothing at all can protect you from the creation ip requesting an account recovery appeal unfortunately. But realistically speaking, don't put too much thought into this (or you will drive yourself mad) and have a back-up account as I did. Yes, I did waste money on the accounts and yes, I did put thousands of hours into them but at the end of the day I knew it wasn't all so bad because I had an account with base 70's quested up waiting for me if poo hit the fan. I wish you the best of luck my friend and hope you can find peace of mind in knowing that there are some people who never recover accounts and it's just a 50/50 shot in the dark and I just got the ass end of the stick in my situation.

 

[papercut]

No, it wasn't, only because I thought 2auth on the acc was good enough and had the account for years already on my home IP using my cc to buy membership etc etc. A Jagex account can possibly supply you with an extra step of security. But... nothing at all can protect you from the creation ip requesting an account recovery appeal unfortunately. But realistically speaking, don't put too much thought into this (or you will drive yourself mad) and have a back-up account as I did. Yes, I did waste money on the accounts and yes, I did put thousands of hours into them but at the end of the day I knew it wasn't all so bad because I had an account with base 70's quested up waiting for me if poo hit the fan. I wish you the best of luck my friend and hope you can find peace of mind in knowing that there are some people who never recover accounts and it's just a 50/50 shot in the dark and I just got the ass end of the stick in my situation.

Home IPs assigned by ISPs are dynamic which means that they change over time. The IP that I have today is different than the one I had 6-12 months ago (even though my location is exactly the same) and I have the same ISP (this happens even if you don't even reset or change the router). The thing is that Jagex can see the GEO location where the account was created and the ISP as well. If the OO is sending the request from that same location with the same ISP, it's game over.

But the "original email" you mentioned is the original login email?

 

Home IPs assigned by ISPs are dynamic which means that they change over time. The IP that I have today is different than the one I had 6-12 months ago (even though my location is exactly the same) and I have the same ISP (this happens even if you don't even reset or change the router). The thing is that Jagex can see the GEO location where the account was created and the ISP as well. If the OO is sending the request from that same location with the same ISP, it's game over.

But the "original email" you mentioned is the original login email?

I have a static IP meaning it never changes unless requested, and they never gave me the original email access to the accounts they kept those.

 

[papercut]

I have a static IP meaning it never changes unless requested, and they never gave me the original email access to the accounts they kept those.

Ok but 95%+ of people who play OSRS have a dynamic IP. The "creation IP" stuff is related to the GEO location (city and country) and ISP.

I still don't understand what you mean by the "original email". You mean the original login e-mail?

 

Il be honest, 1200 total is very easy to get these days even if you don’t play often. If you’re really worried which I too would be, I think you should just make a new account that is your own and start from scratch, put it on a jagex account and go from there. Sure it will suck starting over but playing constantly worried and a inevitable recovery doesn’t sound fun at all, and probably has held you back.

 

Always a risk

 

As an experienced person in the account selling business. Join can reach out to me with questions via Discord: luckycharm7749

In short, i would check the feedback of the person that you bought the account of from Eldorado (how much feedback do they have etc).

Was the account created with a fake email? Such as [email protected] or with a real email address that could be created? (if that is the case then i would create this email yourself if possible) - this greatly reduces the chances of your account being able to be recovered.

As always, purchase accounts from people that are very reputable, and are the original owner of the account in question.

As for the case of importing to a Jagex Launcher account, i would highly recommend not do to this. This makes the recovery process even easier, as Jagex has a seperate recovery system for imported Jagex Launcher accounts. Staying with the legacy login makes it harder for your account to be recovered.

I wouldn't worry too much if i were you. You can reach out to me if you have other questions.

 

[Datsyuk4242]

As for the case of importing to a Jagex Launcher account, i would highly recommend not do to this. This makes the recovery process even easier, as Jagex has a seperate recovery system for imported Jagex Launcher accounts. Staying with the legacy login makes it harder for your account to be recovered.

Would you care to elaborate on this? It was my understanding that importing to a Jagex Account/Launcher, it removes the "manual" intervention and the social engineering aspect of recovery. So people wouldn't be able to brute into the account with security questions & answers, as well as other obtainable information about the person.

 

What's with everyone on this thread sucking off sammich? There's plenty of reputable bots other than them.

You're accounts 1.2k total level, start over on a fresh account you made. Pay a power level to do barrows gloves from scratch for you. This is like $50 and will save you days of playtime and they can do it in like a week.

RWT bans for buying gold are typically always a temp ban for first few offenses, so risk is minimal.

 

Would you care to elaborate on this? It was my understanding that importing to a Jagex Account/Launcher, it removes the "manual" intervention and the social engineering aspect of recovery. So people wouldn't be able to brute into the account with security questions & answers, as well as other obtainable information about the person.

Since hijackers (people that hijack accounts) can always import it to a jagex launcher they made a new recovery system for people that got hacked. Its way easier to recover those accounts.

 

[papercut]

Since hijackers (people that hijack accounts) can always import it to a jagex launcher they made a new recovery system for people that got hacked. Its way easier to recover those accounts.

They now look for metadata held about the account (geolocation/IP, etc) so it shouldn't be possible to hijack a character on a Jagex Account.