Really Complicated Scam- Need Advice/Help

Hey I need some advice on what to post in this report. It goes beyond what I've posted before and there are multiple issues I have with the person who serviced me. However, it'll be a 10 page long report so I suppose taking advice helps every party involved. I've been trying to pm a few mods on sythe and skype but to no avail. Not sure which problems I have are worth posting and which I should just deal with.

My issue is really complicated because it involves multiple people through the nature of how I have been taken advantage of. I might need to send a lot of text or exchange a lot of messages, and I wanted to speak with someone and get advice before looking through thousands of messages.

My skype is: rspsriskfighter
If sythe pms are fine I could really use some advice, below is me trying to condense the problem as much as possible.

A rundown of it is someone did a really poor job, overpromised, and ended up hiring other people to do the work. My account got hacked and money was was taken. My guy let multiple untrusted people on the account without permission because of their low cost and I need advice. I feel like I was being taken advantage of since I paid my guy (middleman has the money, but he hasn't replied to me in days/many hours) to do the work himself. What he did was find other people who were offering free services or very cheap (they had low vouches/working for free to get some) and I am expected to pay him the full amount. There were a few more issues but that's the biggest one (he did the wrong stuff as well, messed up order. he also had 4 or 5 different completion dates and only started getting stuff done once he hired other people. My account was hacked by someone he let on the account even though he says differently).

I need advice because there is a lot to sort through (PM's with the people he hired, etc)

 

if the other person deleted sythe conversation will it delete for me also? i've been looking and looking but can't find my conversation with this guy it literally disappeared lol

 

Dealing with this report.

 

Update - will come to a decision today.

 

Getting there lol.

Points dealt with -
Refund for 5 quests not completed.


Few points customer wants proof for have been shown and now in the process of dealing with other points.

 

@riskfighter and @Marcellus1404 use this thread now. My skype conversations are so full of all this I cant view most of it.

Refund for the 5 quests has already been dealt with and will be done soon.

@riskfighter make your other claims here and this way we don't have to worry about Skype issues as everything here will be documented.

 

Note I have no evidence on my phone (what I'm typing right now) and will fill it in when I get home.

WHAT IS CURRENTLY IN QUESTION:

How much should Marcellus be paid/ how much should be taken out for him hiring others and lying about it while compromising my account as a result. Him extending completion dates, and trying to complicate the issue unnecessarily has changed my view from sympathetic to objective. Initially, I was willing to be compliant with a small change in payment. However, the more I look the more evidence I find and that is just sad as it grows in measure with his unwillingness to accept responsibility and be deceitful. I now intend to take full advantage where I can. I'm trying not to be sympathetic. I want a proper punishment. It is definitely not fair- He WILL continue to push lines, cross them, and create huge dramas as as he did before (previous scam report). I suppose I did get what I paid for, though...

@Azie I'm trying to be as comprehensive as possible. On our skype exchanges I can only provide some things that are worded poorly and essentially lack what I am trying to say. Making it this detailed will save time by explaining my thought process, point out deficiencies in the communication where he uses unsure language to do what he wants while not following strict and clear orders. This length will demonstrate the degree the other user has lied and complicated the issue, all out of spite due to a childish grasp of his own emotions (I'm trying to be objective here and that is just the truth).

Issues:
1) Payment for supplies 2m+2m+3m =7m (evidence, evidence, evidence)

2) We had an official sythe confirmation through the messaging service. However these messages have disappeared. I did Jad for him (only 1m), and we had a separate confirmation message that is still available so I am not sure where our conversation went. If it's possible, could someone look into this? There is reason for Marcellus to have deleted our messages since it incriminates him to a considerable degree.

Side note: dealing with this has taken over 10 hours AT LEAST from gathering evidence, talking to everyone, etc. along with delaying my timeline for progress on the account dealing with Marcellus has basically set me back a month. I would like this to be considered for compensated if at all possible (him taking longer means I make less money/ do less on the account and effectively wastes my time).

3) My side of the most complicated issue: please note complications are a cause of the user lying and denying. This makes gathering evidence extremely exhaustive. The nature of conclusions being made are off evidence that leads there. What follows is why I believe Marcellus should be given a TWC, though this self-omission of guilt should be enough (hiring someone and lying/covering it up), and getting my account hacked for not following proper protocol.

User doing service first promises a one week completion date, with a second week for leniency and fallback for when issues come up. Nearing the end of the second week he is nowhere near finishing order. Asks to get help from other people, rationalizes (after I reiterate what he would lose) and AGREES it is best to do the work himself. BUT
Says he WILL let me know IF HE DOES decides to hire, and will warn me if he does hire another person (1-53 thieving for 2.5m) so I can change the password after.

Time passes, not much work is being done. He tells me a few updates when I ask and I am under the impression all work is done by him. He has not asked me to change my password.

After he continues extending and promising dates he is suddenly and finally getting work done, albeit straying from the quest and stat list I gave him (this is agreed in our sythe PM exchange). He does asks if the list is set or guidelines. I say most of the quests are necessary for the account, but quests like Tower of Life are just filler, for quest points. He messes up and forgets about the stat requirement list I gave him, but otherwise I am really happy that he is finally doing the job. He randomly messages me to change the account details, very panicky.

However, he is the only other person with my account details and the account gets hacked, wiped of items.
He claims that he gave SKYPE information to someone he knew a while ago, and this person logged onto his account, found out our messages specifically, scrolled up (you know how annoying it is to load 50 messages) over thousands of messages, picked out my account details and hacked my account.

The day after, I look for advice. It's clearly a funny story and his responses are suspicious (not hard to tell something is off, he uses a lot of 'ummm's when trying to make something up). I PM and post around and get in contact with a sythe staff member. It has been 4 hours since looking that someone helpful has replied. At this point, I think Marcellus is botting. He only got work done recently and messed it up too (to be fair, not the best communicator or good at following directions).

In the meantime (while waiting for replies) I look at the other users sythe profile (Marcellus1404). What I find is multiple untrusted people vouching on his account and offering free services. Marcellus had ASKED for free services and went looking for them, and accepted these services or paid very little and pretended to do the service himself. These same people are under his vouches and posts, at the same time he claimed to do them himself. I find one of the users who did work on the account (he vouched for doing 48 agility) is banned. I'm suspicious, because it was a few days before at 11:30 at night or so, where I remember Marcellus complaining heavily about doing agility (being over dramatic, saying 'ughhhhhh agility sucks soooo bad', very abnormal behaviour but dismissable etc.) I proceed to look at the other vouches he has, along with posts he made about services I have asked and the time stamps with other vouches and put the situation together:

To save money, Marcellus decided to be dishonest and hire other people without informing me properly. He said to me he would do the thieving work himself, and IF HE DID hire someone else, that he WOULD INFORM ME AND TELL ME TO CHANGE THE PASSWORD AFTER, and ONLY for the thieving service.

Not only did Marcellus NOT follow through with his terms for hiring others, HE VERY CLEARLY LIED and tried covering his tracks. His excuse is that 'the work I paid for was done (it really wasn't, 2-3 weeks+ late). That is inexcusable and means even botting is okay because all he risks is his own time (or lack thereof, if botting).

I relayed this to the person I was asking advice and he advised me to change the password on the account. I try logging on the account (it does not show up online)*see note* however the account is already logged in, and at this point all evidence leads me to believe that Marcellus is botting along with hiring others, to explain his increase in productivity. I act casual and ask Marcellus if I can log onto the account. He's on the account but doesn't reply for a few minutes, this makes me panic. After about ten, he lets me log on and I get a PM from someone he hired asking what's up, and whether he can get on the account and finish the worker.
(Evidence)
We exchange SKYPE's (here I am thinking the guy who pmed me is getting scammed somehow also)

NOTE: At this point, hotmail/outlook services were down and I could NOT change my password with estimates saying they would be for another 4-6 hours. This made me panic even more and had me acting casual.

He shows me proof of Marcellus enlisting his services to work, and says that he is being paid to work on the account. I stop worrying because the account is not being botted on (at least that's what I'm assuming now). So I immediately try to get the messages between them. He sends me messages that show my account details, along with Marcellus asking for him to download OSBuddy to screenshot the work. I did not notice this before, but it is possible that Marcellus asked this user to log onto his osbuddy account to take screenshots. I and the worker agree that until someone with higher power advises us on action it is best to act normal.
(evidence (skypeid evidence

(Note: in an instance before, Marcellus was working on the account with the private off. I told him to keep it on and he said alright. This was the second instance where it happened which made me even more suspicious).

So now I had the evidence that someone else was working on the account. Here is where I ask Marcellus specific questions to see if he is telling the truth. I ask him casually if he was doing the work himself and he says it is. I have him lying, and now I had to act casual in case he does something funny(while I can't change my password, I can't rule out that he isn't botting and so once I tell him 'I'm sorry if I get you in trouble' [evidence]he is still logged on the account for 10 minutes and I think he is botting to get the account banned to spite me since this fits into his character profile based on previous sythe reports and his lying), gather the evidence/ screenshots necessary so that Azie can make his decision as fast as possible once he replies. I go to sleep and the next day. The next four days Marcellus stalls the investigation, lies more, and THEN ADMITS TO HIRING SOMEONE HIMSELF ON ACCIDENT (WTF?) AFTER LYING ABOUT IT FOR WEEKS. This is an example of his poor grasp on emotions (basically screwing himself because he was angry) and willingness to lie and be deceitful.

I thought this case would be bad enough that Marcellus could admit his mistakes where there is clear evidence, be honest, and other users could judge whether it is worth hiring him. He could be compensated for what he did and could get on with his other orders.

I feel now that nothing about him was trustworthy, including his screenshots. I also find that he asks for services that he offers also (suspicious) and in the evidence I have, are some other orders he gave the workers he hired on my account which could coincide with other orders he has taken (specifically a ranged or strength training order). I think this user should be given a TWC
and should





He did almost no work on the account until he hired other people. I did not find this an issue because the price I was paying him was 18-25% lower than what others were quoting. I rationalized time with paying less money (meaning he would prioritize other orders if he was getting more value from them, human nature. However he promised and defected over 4 times).

With all of his issues, I'm not sure what I should be asking.

WHAT IS CURRENTLY IN QUESTION:
How much should be taken for his actions regarding servicing others and lying.

 

What I wrote isn't written that well but it's hard to notice (wrote it in between doing work and it's choppy, along with not making sense) but it should be enough to make sense and show, if not convey, my opinions and impressions while he worked on my account and lied to me. @Azie, I'm not sure if you need me to resubmit evidence under here (you should have seen it all and everything should align) but I will if necessary, as it is a report. Just bummed that it will take another hour or more of my time.

 

Also, I think he messed up my order
Because he was disorganized. It's likely that he confused my order with someone else (he thought I asked him to get b gloves without getting combat stats, I needed b glove requirements and fine with him leveling anything if it was from a quest reward)

 

None of my business but what a fucking grimy thing to do. My apologies for my post. I've just never seen someone do this before. Hope you get refunded in full sir. Man the things people will do to make a few gp's around here...

 

I will review everything in about 2/3 hours as I have football in 15 minutes. Your patience is appreciated.

 

Fuck me in the bum.

I apologise but I will have to repeat and ask for evidence as I cant view 80% of it on Skype anymore. But as the evidence will be documented here I wont have to ask again and again.

I will go point by point.

Key
Red colour = talking to @riskfighter
Orange colour = talking to @Marcellus1404

Issues:
1) Payment for supplies 2m+2m+3m =7m (evidence, evidence, evidence)

Pretty simple. Could you show me a screenshot of where it was agreed that you will be reimbursed for the supplies.

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2) We had an official sythe confirmation through the messaging service. However these messages have disappeared. I did Jad for him (only 1m), and we had a separate confirmation message that is still available so I am not sure where our conversation went. If it's possible, could someone look into this? There is reason for Marcellus to have deleted our messages since it incriminates him to a considerable degree.

Are you referring to Sythe PM's? or Skype conversations where messages have been apparently deleted?

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Side note: dealing with this has taken over 10 hours AT LEAST from gathering evidence, talking to everyone, etc. along with delaying my timeline for progress on the account dealing with Marcellus has basically set me back a month. I would like this to be considered for compensated if at all possible (him taking longer means I make less money/ do less on the account and effectively wastes my time).

I don't think I'm likely to entertain compensation for time being wasted. Reason is:
1. You waited until the service was complete to report this and you should have reported it the moment you had suspicions. You kept this information to yourself which meant that I had no means of trying to moderate this situation. I cant act if I'm not being told anything.


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[YOUR THIRD POINT - NOT GOING TO COPY AND PASTE MAY BECOME LONGER THAN THE BIBLE]

In regards to the thieving skilling. Could you please show me:
1. A screenshot showing you telling to that he needs to ask for your permission prior to a 3rd party doing a service on your account on his behalf OR evidence of agreements made in regards to any use of 3rd party user performing skilling services

Quests that were not completed will be refunded. This has already been discussed.

Could you show me evidence again of him accepting responsibility for the account being hacked? I remember he said he reimbursed you but again I want the evidence documented here.

Could you compile a list of the services that you believe were NOT completed by himself. I will use this list as a way to ask him for evidence.

Furthermore, why were your suspicions that the thieving was done by another person so strong? did you take any action to question the others potential skillers that did some of the services on your account? Why did you focus on that 1 skiller to argue this case? @Marcellus1404 claims that you and him are friends so I would like you to show me the Skype conversation via Sythe PM. Please make sure it's in order.

Could you also list all the Sythe users you believe did services on your account for him. It will help me determine whether your claims reconcile or not.



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@Marcellus1404 Can you show me evidence of you agreeing that 3rd party users can be used to train the account? Do you have any evidence to suggest that he would have been satisfied with you using a 3rd party user without the need for you to notify him every time a 3rd party user was used?




For now this much is enough to ask.

 

Here's my update/ installment in the case 'Riskfighter v. Marcellus1404's Anus'
First I'd like to say sorry (the evidence is clear) but because of it's volume you probably missed a lot of key information and I would like to apologize. I expect a full refund now after finding even more evidence looking back. Another issue is Marcellus has not explained or responded to any real evidence I showed him. He just ignores it and makes random unsubstantiated claims that shouldn't mean anything, but this depth in showing his wrongs should leave him with nothing to strawman.
1) Agreeing to pay for supplies:
He should pay for the second bond as well since he took longer than promised (I provided the first bond).
You should find some information and confirmation in our SYTHE conversation that I believe he deleted (see 2).

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2) Sythe conversations that have been deleted. We had a confirmation of service on SYTHE with chat from our SKYPE's. This conversation on SYTHE I can no longer find.
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'what's on sythe as our agreement incriminates me, shit! lemme go delete it!'

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where I tell him to follow the quest requirements so I don't have to go back and do stuff myself after. It's been almost one month since he started the service and I still have to go and hire someone else to do the quests. That is what I mean by wasting my time, if not by him lying and forcing me to uncover evidence. This along with evidence I show throughout and after warrant a fair consideration. If I am refunded full, however, he does not need to compensate me extra.

3a) The evidence I had before he made his self-admissions is below also, however showing his admission is way simpler than showing every step (that corresponds with evidence) until conclusion, when this evidence is from dozens of different places. BOTH come to the same conclusion, though and the latter is not as comprehensive or detailed, it is more just pointing out he admits to it after lying for weeks and validates my conclusion.

Self-admission of guilt 1- hiring others when he said he did NOT
After weeks of pretending to do the service himself, Marcellus gets into an argument with me. As we know, people usually come to conclusions with premises they believe true. Here, Marcellus uses a truth (that he used someone else without my permission) to substantiate a point he was making (that he removed gp before using him as the people he used before hacked the account because he didn't).
By trying to argue with me, he accidentally uses the truth (that he used someone else) to argue a different point and says 'fuck' because he admitted it accidentally as a premise in another conclusion.

Self-admission of guilt 2- Looking through our messages: looks like Marcellus DID admit to hiring someone for thieving, while not following protocol he described. As I show in later evidence, he self-admits to him believing my hack was from someone he hired and that story changes.
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Here I present him my conclusion with a (to him, he's not that perceptive) hidden premise that he hired someone previously. However, he admits to hiring someone (WTF?) saying I gave him permission (I as much gave him permission as I did not, and he is using that to make his argument and confuse everyone).

HOWEVER/REGARDLESS:
1) clearly he did not tell me to change the password (why the account got hacked)
2) we know on 3/21 Anti was clearly working on the account, which proves he is lying about this
3) where are the screenshots, even after he has admitted to hiring someone after lying?

He says to me 'with your permission, yes'... So... I gave you permission to hire someone else to a job without screenshots, that I paid you to do with YOUR OWN MONEY. I clearly made an issue about it because it makes the most sense for ME TO HIRE SOMEONE WHO OWES ME WORK FOR FREE but TAKE IT OUT OF HIS OVERALL PAYMENT.
This is where he really screwed me, because HE GOT THE THIEVING SERVICE COMPLETELY FREE ANYWAY and he effectively did nothing for my payment. HE ALSO WASTED THE FREE, TRUSTED SERVICE I COULD HAVE GOTTEN SINCE THE PERSON WHO OWES ME COULD HAVE DONE IT. I DROPPED THE ISSUE BECAUSE HE SAID HE WOULD DO IT HIMSELF, AND WOULD INFORM ME IF HE DID WANT TO HIRE SOMEONE ELSE.
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The uncertainty with one of the statements is that I put all risk on him because I try convincing him that it's not worth using someone untrusted since it risks all the work he did so far, meaning it is better to secure the time already spent instead of wasting it.
I STILL I LOSE TIME, MY ACCOUNT, and EFFORT I PUT MYSELF. This is NOT a term of service in ANY WAY. He has ALREADY STATED HE WILL DO IT HIMSELF. That is me REASSURING THAT HE IS DOING THE SMARTEST THING BY NOT PAYING FOR UNTRUSTED WORK and NOT A TOS or whatever BS he has cooked up. ASK why he lied about literally everything? Because HE KNEW it was my INTENT that he did the work HIMSELF and ALL EVIDENCE POINTS to this, including his lying. THIS IS OVERCOMPLICATION ON HIS SIDE EVEN THOUGH HE KNOWS HE IS WRONG, and ultimately another reason I want a full refund because he is stringing you along and making me spend so much time. His claims without real substantial evidence are wasting everyone's time.

3B) Evidence for terms to hiring others: Gyazo - 9153a5ca2d71de1013d318562f9fdce2.png
That is also where I try getting him to understand that by hiring others for a job I paid him to do, I AM EFFECTIVELY PAYING FOR IT, NOT HIM. I am LOOKING FOR SPECIFICS ON WHO IS DOING THE JOB because I HAVE A FRIEND WHO OWES ME WORK (will do it for FREE himself that I TRUST). This is a breaking point in Marcellus's core argument, that I gave permission for him to hire others. I DID NOT explicitly say NO OR YES. That is because:
- I was under the impression he was still looking for it since that is what people do, and he's been generally unprepared and late, and I assume he will look for someone to do the job AFTER I give permission. No where do I explicitly GIVE HIM PERMISSION either. I am accepting his statements, not giving explicit permission. Marcellus is NOW USING THE VAGUE NATURE OF THIS CONVERSATION WHERE HE CHANGES POSITIONS, TO SAY I GAVE HIM PERMISSION. HOWEVER, THE ISSUE IS BEYOND EVEN THAT.
- I was still looking for more information to make the best decision
- By changing HIS intentions (going to hire someone first, then AGREEING it is a bad idea and will do it himself), the meaning of his messages CHANGED, while mine DID NOT.

MOVING PAST THAT ARGUMENT and pointing out, REGARDLESS of whether or not I gave permission Marcellus DID say explicitly:
1) he would tell me to change the password after to something only the two of us know
- this never happened, and he DOES ADMIT LATER TO HIRING OTHERS.
- AS A RESULT OF NOT FOLLOWING PROPER PROTOCOL, my account was hacked
2) he would ONLY do this for thieving
- we know this is not true (self admission 1,2 + further evidence)
3) he would pay 2.5m
-as Mahi said only a mere few hours ago ( https://www.sythe.org/conversations/38-53-thieving-order-for-marcellus1404.5827149/ ) , the service was free and Marcellus tipped afterwards with a vouch where he LIKELY ASKED MAHI TO OMIT INFORMATION AROUND PAYMENT, OR SAY THAT MARCELLUS PAID AFTERWARDS MAKING IT UNCLEAR WHETHER THE SERVICE WAS PAID OR A TIP. This distinction Marcellus has tried to hide, clearly shows the nature of his omissions and cover ups, and directly implicates himself here.


3c) Timing of My Complaints:
This is another point I want to get out of the way. I had 0 suspicions before 3/20 (day I was hacked). In fact, the only thing that happened was me being annoyed by his inefficiency and communication skills. I thought that by being exactingly clear with him would minimize that (I mean, what else am I supposed to do) and that problem would go away. My understanding was that time issues can't really be done anything about, especially if some progress has made on the account. I was fine with him being slow when he pushed at first (again, I paid him a bit less than what others offered to do for, human nature if he values other projects higher). So I'm only annoyed now that he extended the deadline 4-5+ times, HE STILL DIDN'T DO ANYTHING PROPERLY. I would like this to be submitted as evidence of his character (does not hold himself accountable or responsible for other, smaller things).

I found real issues on 3/20, the same day I got hacked. However, I'll be honest. I was exhausted and just went to sleep. I didn't complain then, because I had every reason to believe him until he made no sense. Either way, this is what set me off. Looking back I remember I was literally about to close my eyes and fall asleep when he sent those messages. I changed the password, tried getting some information about what happened, and passed out:
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This next screenshot is after I send him the new password. Here he says it is someone he knows, but now he contradicts that with 'I think it was someone who did a service for me'. Meaning, someone he hired, did not tell me, or take items out. The next day you can see me messaging him and he has his private off the day after I tell him to keep them open. The same day I raise issues (hopefully now you understand Azie. Wasn't a big deal at first, it stood out, I asked him, he had an excuse but I told him not to do it again and he agreed. After he broke his agreement I took it up with you. When it happened first, it was just abnormal but with his excuse that makes some sense I didn't bother.)

Notice when and where he says 'ummm' it indicates him lying or trying to make something up.
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The next day (3/21, day after the hack) after coming home I went out and looked for advice, and came into contact with you. With only 1 day (night/school) in between, I don't think it is fair to make a point against action for me (infact, hours, since I got hacked at night).
I only have so much evidence and a comprehensive conclusion because of the length of time Marcellus dragged our trial out. As I have shown, every time I examine the evidence I find something new (I find more to write about as I look at the evidence again, even now). This volume of exposure has made the amount of information I know to be so much, not because I had suspicions before 3/21, but because I keep looking at it everytime I send it. It is also easily accessible, all one needs to do is look at his profile. This is me contacting you on 3/21
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Marcellus accepting responsibility for the hack:
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Also I would like to make this point extremely clear, because Marcellus is getting into everyone's head:
I HAVE 0 'SUSPICIONS'. I have evidence. EVIDENCE IS EVIDENCE, NOT SUSPICION regardless of what Marcellus says. I MADE THESE CLAIMS and conclusions BECAUSE THERE IS EVIDENCE to make them. I have the other PARTY ADMITTING TO DO THE JOB. Marcellus is just trying to confuse everyone because he thinks making it more complicated will demotivate me, and I will end up paying. I started making complaints when I had evidence to be suspicious, then sure, of what I am saying (when evidence adds up to a conclusion that I can be confident of).

My suspicion is so 'strong' because I open Marcellus's posts and find him looking for free work directly, asking someone, receiving it, and then getting a tip for it- I thought it was free, Marcellus said he would be paying 2.5m when he first told me about it. As I'm typing this I receive a message from the guy who did the thieving (Mahi) who took so long replying due to a family death. As you can see I sent Mahi a message 3/23/17. This should simultaneously dissolve Marcellus's claims that Anti (the latest person, the one who gave me evidence first) was my friend previous to finding him working on my account. Find our messages here: https://www.sythe.org/conversations/38-53-thieving-order-for-marcellus1404.5827149/#message-8545726

Here are the people who I HAVE EVIDENCE worked on the account:
Mahi- 38-53 thieving
Radihv- 18-40 mining, 20-30 agility, 30-38 thieving
Doing free short services!
- my account started with 18 mining when I gave it to Marcellus, the quest 'A Feud' should give enough experience for 30 thieving, this is why I believe he did work on my account also.
Mr Wolf- 36-48 agility
Combat/Skilling/Quest/ Services [Free & Cheap]
Anti- finished mining to 60, crafting to 61, magic to 65, 40-55 woodcutting which Marcellus was looking for.
Anti has kindly supplied me with his conversations with Marc: Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet
Proof that it's Marcellus1404's id: Screenshot
Here Marcellus posts looking for free services on the same day
Woodcutting:
WTB 40-55 Woodcutting
Likely mining:
Offering unlimited free servicing.
Agility:
♕ #1 Agility Service! ♕ Nmz 5 GP/XP! Fast✔Hand Done✔ ♕
His vouches where I could find these people:
Marcellus1404 Vouches

My suspicions, however: he COULD have gotten people to log onto his OSBUDDY, he COULD have gotten a million things done THROUGH SKYPE where I have no access.

This is where I find out that other people are working on the account, on 3/21, when Anti (the person he hired) pm's me:
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Note: I am speaking that way because I thought he was being scammed somehow too.
Also: this is only the evidence I have from sythe and skype. Marcellus could have done anything through SKYPE and not share or have that information see the light of day.
I also PM you the same day, and everything I compiled above is a result of Marcellus being difficult and having me look through everything I can, NOT a result of suspicions previously (as is your standing assumption). I have had 2 weeks to look through this.

HOWEVER: I WAS cautious of his character and intelligence as I DID see this, his previous scam reports where he messes up, denies it's his fault/refuses responsibility, then expects to get paid because he still did the work:
REPORTING Itslitbruh
Reporting marcellus1404

There's nothing reasonable to report in the early or middle, even nearing the end of the service, as the above is presumably instanced until proven otherwise. This is me proving otherwise and showing Marcellus's contradictions. His motivation, in line with the previous scam report is clear:

Marcellus confused the job even after delaying it 4 or 5 times. Let's be clear, he didn't finish it and I am not reporting this information once the job is done. It has been almost one month and a service that should have been done with in 1 week is still not finished.

OTHER CONSIDERABLE EVIDENCE:
1)So is this Marcellus saying 'Yes I was/am clueless, deduct some for that'
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2)After I made this an issue he started doing stuff like this: (reason for submission is evidence on decisions he makes/ his thought process)
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I need to prove that I didn't use the supplies on the account? I proceed to add up what he could have spent the money on and he says 'see how messy you have made this all become'. This is another way of saying, 'I'm going to make anything I can an issue and make it messy to prove a point and be spiteful' -- we both agreed he would pay for supplies and he unnecessarily starts drama.

3)He thinks paying other people without my knowledge can be construed as his 'supplies' for doing the job (WTF?): Gyazo - 7a29268099815a6f2c3bded06be5d2ab.png

4)He thinks because a service done means a service paid (first off he didn't do it right so it's not even done) and that it doesn't matter how it was done, because that goes under his 'expenses' (as previously shown):
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5)BECAUSE MARCELLUS WON'T SHOW IT HIMSELF, I get Anti to send me their messages together. Now he makes this accusation: Gyazo - 6c2acb4351b5c3806be7a4eb3b4553e2.png
So he's helpful and honest, so we devised this plan ahead of time? Making these accusations are an indication of your guilt and not mine. To take them seriously, too? When Marcellus hasn't responded to anything I've said... c'mon lol.

6)I ask him direct questions, he deflects so that he doesn't accidentally self-incriminate himself: Gyazo - 6e6f8c31de965c13cd16396c80b11344.png

7)I wasn't cheated at all! I got what I paid for! Except I didn't and you did not go about it the right way. My last statement, 'dude you're paying these guys 1/5 of what we agreed' ignore that because he pays them nothing! Gyazo - 276415a2875ed5e899431499fa82673a.png

 

EXPLAINING THE SITUAION AND COURSE OF EVENTS
Well to start things off after reading that entire paragraph It just rendered me speechless.....I mean this guy is so good that even I would start believing his lies and made up story (including crazy assumptions) if I didn't know better, but the funny thing is he took all my arguments I put forward to Azie via skype and made a perfect response to them here on sythe in his claims....However ill keep this simple and just point out a few things:
1-I did fall a few days behind the deadline, however I told him upfront and I also allowed him to use the account when I'm not on to compensate for this, I didn't fall "2 weeks" behind like he's claiming tho (started on the 3rd of march and finished 22nd of march, which is 5 days more than the deadline).
2-I honestly don't know where this "botting" claims came from because they're now being brought to my attention, however I do have screenshots of everything gained on the account! (I'm pretty sure the guy that was working on the account told him he turned private off yet he obviously mentioned it to be dramatic and make the situation seem worst, afterall its Ryan we're talking about).
3-Here he made it seem as though he had so many problems with the order yet at no point before the "COMPLETION OF HIS ORDER", he made any objections to anything or made any complains or even said that my services are no longer required, which can only lead one to assume that he's just making claims now, using excuses and these events as a WAY OF JUST ESCAPING TO PAY FOR THE SERVICES HE ACQUIRED.
4-He mentioned being hacked, at no point in time he was "hacked", somone ik accessed my skype and all the accounts I had access to, however I replaced everything on his account (in gp) and told him to change the passwo he said nothing further of it for over a week that I was on the account so I'm still wondering why is this an issue and being mentioned here?
5-He claims I deleted the sythe confirmation msg, which is another one of his absurd claims, I tried to find it but I don't see any msgs regarding that, so probably we never had this convo or he deleted it himself and blames it on me (idk tbh), so it would be nice for a mod to look into that if they can pull up deleted conversations...

NOW WITH THE REAL ISSUES CONCERNING THE PACKAGE:
1-He claims he gave me a quest list and I didn't follow it leaving out 5 quests, however at the time when accepting his offer to do the job for 100m, all he stated was that I need to gain 145 quest points on an account with 17 quest points "skilling included", he later presented a list and I asked him If he needs me to follow that list, his response was "YOU DONT NEED TO, SOME ARE JUST FILLER QUESTS"!


It wasn't until a few days before the completion of the account (all the required skills for the quests I planned to do was already gained by this time) he asked about lunar diplomacy, I said I was skipping that and hes like "no he needs it" trying to be nice I decided to get the extra skills needed for lunar diplomacy (58-60 mining, 44-55 woodcutting and 55-61 crafting) which I bought from Anti (the guy he claims he was talking to on the account) at my own expense.

PLEASE NOTE HERE HE KNEW SOMEONE ELSE WAS ON THE ACCOUNT AT THIS TIME AND STILL DIDNT SAY ANYTHING TO ME UNTIL EVERYTHING WAS COMPLETED, WHICH WAS 2-3 DAYS LATER!!!!!!
2-He claims that I let other persons on his account, (some of which he stated is free services) however not because I posted on someone's thread means I hired them, and I also have my personal accounts so It doesn't mean if someone was hired, they were working on his account!
Also every vouch that is on my thread, I have screenshots to show payments for them if necessary.
3- Now on the issue of hiring others to work on his account (I did 95 % of the work on the account personally btw, proof of this could be shown) I previously asked ryan whether or not its okay to hire a skiller on the account at my own expense and after some talking and deliberating he ended that conversation with the words "KK, IF IT GETS BANNED THO, YOU'LL LOSE ALL YOUR EFFORT AND THAT WOULD SUCK".


Now that was a risk I appreciated (using that word in the law context meaning accepted), and took all reasonable measures in my power to ensure everything turned out smoothly (which it did). Now he'll probably claim that the conversation was relating to training thieving but i clearly mentioned a "few skills" in my beginning question and nevertheless on that point isn't both thieving and mining or any other skill banable if botting or anything of that sort? or if a person is likely to scam me if I hire him to train thieving, wouldnt he also be likely to scam me if I hire him to do mining or anything else?
MY POINT HERE IS THAT CLEARLY I HAD THE PERMISSION TO HIRE SOMEONE TO DO SKILLINIG IF I FOUND NECCESSARY, BEARING THE CONSEQUENCES OF LOSING ALL MY EFFORT ALREADY INVESTED INTO THE ACCOUNT IF SOMETHING WENT WRONG,ANY REASONABLE PERSON WOULD SEE THAT!!!!

ALSO IM UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT ANTI IS RYAN'S FRIEND, THEY BOTH PLANNED AND CONSIPIRED AGAINST ME IN ORDER TO ESCAPE PAYING FOR THE SERVICE, SUMMING UP THE EVENTS TELLS ALOT ABOUT RYAN'S CHARACTER AND THE WAY HE ACTED NICELY TOWARDS ME UNTIL THE END OF THE SERVICE, AND THEN IMMEDIATELY MADE ABSURD CLAIMS AGAINST ME,WHEN I SAID I FINISHED...IN THIS SITUATION I BELIEVE IF ANYONE IS TO GET TWC'D IT WOULD BE HIM!
NOW I'D LIKE TO END THIS ARGUEMENT WITH THE WORDS RYAN USED HIMSELF, AT THE END OF THE DAY "HE GOT WHAT HE PAID FOR"!!!!

 

edit: sorry for making 2 posts to reply to his post above. he literally has nothing I didn't acknowledge or prove against, but he is saying I am making absurd claims WTF and he's being taken seriously which is PISSING me off. I am not going to make any more replies. Marcellus won't respond to any evidence I have made, clearly, and deflects to the same arguments which I have already deconstructed. We have established he is a child, but really? He is still doing this and it sets me off. The following two replies will be it from me, until mods decide.

Marcellus. Thank you for replying man. You're a really smart guy and I really appreciate you replying to all my points(NOT...). I took my objections up with people who could help, not you who is still going after straw man arguments. I had no suspicions until I was hacked genius, that is 3/20 at night. I made formal complaints when I logged on and your worker pmed me 3/21. Easy. Simple. Stop making arguments against nothing. Stop it.

OUR AGREEMENT ON SYTHE WAS THAT YOU WOULD DO THE QUEST LIST. STOP PRETENDING YOU DIDNT DELETE IT. THIS IS WHERE YOU AND I AGREE THAT YOU FOLLOW THE LIST. FEEL FREE NOT DO TO THE FILLER QUESTS, BUT I SECTIONED THEM OFF BETWEEN REQUIRED AND FILLER. YOU DID NOT DO THE REQUIRED. EASY. SIMPLE. PLAIN. DO THE WHOLE THING IF YOU ARE NOT INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND ORDERS.



I ALSO UPDATE YOU.3-4 times to follow the list. You ACKNOWLEDGED the reminder each time BUT FORGOT LATER...?


I STATED EXPLICITLYTHAT YOU NEED TO GET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR B GLOVES, LUNAR DIPLOMACY, ONE SMALL FAVOUR AND KINGS RANSOM.
I SECTIONED OFF REQUIREMENTS AS NECESSARY AND FILLER. I ALSO TOLD YOU TO TELL ME WHICH QUESTS YOU WOULD AND WOULDNT DO. YOU DID NOT DO THIS EITHER.


1)Now respond to the part about changing the password and letting me know. Gonna glaze over that? That's the biggest part of this. You didn't tell me to change the password and it got hacked. How many times does this evidence need to be shown before you respond?
A) WHY DID YOU LIE AND COVER UP YOUR STORY BY PRETENDING YOU DID THE WORK YOURSELF. YOU PRETENDED TO DO THE WORK YOURSELF. WHY.

B) WHY DIDNT YOU TELL ME TO CHANGE THE PASSWORD OR LET ME KNOW YOU HIRED PEOPLE. THE ACCOUNT GOT HACKED AS A RESULT.

2)I made objections to Azie on 3/21 along with making sythe posts. Time issue has been dissolved. Only reason you are making this an issue is because you lead Azie on and are making him doubt parts of my story, and he is giving you places where my story COULD be deficient. Now that you know I made formal complaints the same day, understand that I was only nice to you so I could get you to speak with me normally. It is crystal clear your poor communication skills and management over your emotions. This is the only way more information will come out. Honestly it's only 100m but you're actually pissing me off. Dude, you were born with a brain PLEASE use it to argue against me. I already pointed out the flaws in your argument but you went ahead and made the same arguments. Are you kidding me? Did you read any evidence I provided? No you will ignore that.

HONESTLY, ban this guy...
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(from: Marcellus1404 Vouches)

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I'm not the only guy he will do this too...

 

okay sure, you said yourself(the person who hacked my account) ' was someone who did a service for you'.
you gave someone who did a service for you, your skype login information? nice, genius
you did hire that guy for thieving, didn't tell me to change my password
that guy did a service for you, along with the guy who did the agility and is now banned
so someone who is banned, they probably did something wrong. they probably hacked my account
my account got hacked
bear the consequences of nulling your work by compromising my account and lying



note that im casually talking to you 2 days after because youre clearly lying to me! what good is it if i make objections to you. lie to me more? i gave this information to azie whom i spoke with on 3/21, the same day anti pm'ed me. anyway, keep trying to complicate this!

im the only one whos gonna notice your idiocy, in all probability, because im the only one who is reading it all and noticing every idiotic statement you say (i know things to be a certain way) but clearly you need some schooling. also stop repeating that you completed the service. you 'skipped' a fundamental part(s) of my order because you are incompetent, difficult, and a child. STOP repeating the same arguments after I have addressed and PROVIDED PROOF against you. RESPOND TO THE PROOF STOP REPEATING WHAT YOU ARE SAYING 100 TIMES, STRAWMANNING, AND THEN CONFUSING PEOPLE BY THE SHEER VOLUME OF YOUR MISLEADING STATEMENTS AND IDIOCY. easy. simple. straightforward.

 

ALSO: I have messages with Mahi also. He's my friend too?

Yes Marcellus you made this smooth by lying covering it up and not responding, then deflecting and getting Azie to actually consider your claims.

By lying and putting in question your work, it can't be trusted. Duh?


dude, I STILL have to finish whatever you didn't do. FFS.

 

I have requested an admin to check out a few things that I don't have access to due to lack of perms.

@Marcellus1404

Money was coming out of your pocket to pay for any services done by a 3rd party user? I disagree because you charged him 100m and after this price was agreed you discussed the use of 3rd party users training the account. I find this manipulative and unacceptable as a service provider.

You should have ONLY charged him for the services that YOU were going to complete. You were using a portion of the 100m payment you were going to receive and pay small amounts of money for them to be completed on your behalf. Therefore, you have overcharged him.

As a service provider, it's your responsibility to ensure your customers accounts are protected completely and are safe. The account wealth being stolen is something you have already reimbursed. But this will contribute towards the compensation you pay because it was irresponsible and negligent.

I want to see proof that you did 95% of the work. As you use osbuddy this shouldn't be a problem. I am holding you liable for the work that you didn't complete and would you like you refund for those jobs. You're using his payment money to pay for someone to complete services on your behalf. That's a big NO.


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@riskfighter

I asked you to submit the entire conversation between you and the skiller via PM and you haven't done that yet.

Is it true that you were allowed to play on the account while a service wasn't being done? I cant help but ignore the fact you failed to complain about the extra time and delay being taken until service was complete. It seems like you're taking advantage of an issue.

I was told on 23rd despite you having doubts starting on the 20th as you mentioned (day of hacking). I should have been told immediately that the account had been hacked but I wasn't and as I mentioned before, controlling such events are out of my hands if you don't tell me anything. There is simply no way I could have known this was going on.

Can you please show me evidence of the list you made for the questing. I'd like to see which quests were a must do and which ones were optional to check whether it counters Marcellus first point.


For now, this much is enough.

 

Also after reading the second report I'm under the impression that this guy is just delusional, or atleast he acts in that manner.....90% of his argument are based on assumptions, suspicions, his own beliefs and the way he chooses to see things, which are not the true nature of the events! I wanted to keep things as simple as possible but I cant help but to point out a just a few things in his argument:
1-When accepting to compensate for whatever wasn't done, wasn't me admitting I was wrong in any way (because as evidence shows, from the beginning I was hired to gain 145 quest points, without having to follow the list as clearly stated) it was me just trying to be nice and not let a few mills get in the way.........
2-My later statement "see how messy you made this become" reiterates my previous point, I'm not that type to fight for every penny I could get, losing a few mill affected me in no way, but if someone would act unfairly to me, trying to deprive me of my payments ive worked so hard for then things that I would normally pay a blind eye to, should no longer be the case!
3-Delusional! Delusional! Delusional! I can argue every point he mentioned, but to save both myself and the mod reading this the time, I shall only present arguments to one...... Anyone reading his report would be under the assumption that this guy was really treated unfairly, but that would've only been the case if his statements are actually "facts". On this point he mentioned that "i confest to hiring person's on his account,by mistake, and my expression was "fuck!" when I realized I made the mistake" right? Now like I said anyone reading that would be of the view that yeah I (Marcellus) was wrong and clearly they can see how bad I acted there, but what if most of the "actual facts" are omitted, and his arguments are consisted of carefully selected words, and most of the important ones are left out of the screenshots? Let me give an example!


Now quick question, are you still under the impression that I said something by mistake as he so blatantly stated, or you now see that the image I sent to him was deleted from gyazo, and when he said image not found, the word "fuck" was my expression regarding that and then I later said fixed now?
Now please imagine if I could do that with every one of his point mentioned, but that would take a considerable amount of time and effort (so much has been wasted already) so I wont go down that path, however I want you to take this perfect example ive given when considering his arguments.
Also idk about you, but I find the screenshot that he showed with the guy PMing him ingame, in response to the guy (anti) not being his friend, amusing but at the same time i was a bit annoyed about how stupid this guy really thinks everyone is.... so ill leave you with a question, why would someone that is hired to train an account, and was told to log off for 2 mins, take the trouble to log into another account and add/pm the other account that was being trained to have a pointless conversation when you were msging the guy who told you to log off (me) on skype at the same time? why not just msg me on skype? And I got another question, if someone told you that you were being scammed, what would be your reaction/expression? Seems like that guy already knew he was being scammed long before so that's why he didn't seem surprised at all or cared to ask "what? or how?", but just played along so well. Isnt it obvious that this was screenshotted after these incidents in order to make it seem that he didn't know the guy prior to this and offer him an excuse?

MY POINT IS THIS IS COMPLETE BS, HIS ARGUEMENTS ARE COMPLETELY POINTLESS, MADE UP AND NOT EVEN CLOSE TO THE FACTS, IM TIRED OF GOINGG BACK AND FORTH WITH HIM AND I JUST WANT TO GET THIS OVER WITH ASAP, i'D REALLY APPRECAITTE IT IF YOU CAN ALSO SEE THROUGH ALL HIS NONSENSE!

 

Money was coming out of your pocket to pay for any services done by a 3rd party user? I disagree because you charged him 100m and after this price was agreed you discussed the use of 3rd party users training the account. I find this manipulative and unacceptable as a service provider.
That was my point on why it didn't make sense for me, especially when I had a friend who owed me work (which I point out to Marcellus). I am effectively paying, and this was an issue until he said he would do it himself.

I asked you to submit the entire conversation between you and the skiller via PM and you haven't done that yet.

Can you explain why it is relevant at ALL, after I addressed that argument? "I haven't done that yet" because I am putting my effort on the important things and not the strawman argument Marcellus is making again. WHy is he not banned yet? My second post with evidence should nail him to the wall, and yet I'm being accused of being friends with the people he hired WHEN HE WAS LOOKING FOR THEM SO WTF...
Alright, the ones on skype with Anti? I showed you the ingame PMS and did not submit any of my conversations because there is no evidence, just me asking HIM TO SEND HIS MESSAGES WITH MARCELLUS, BECAUSE MARCELLUS WONT GIVE THEM HIMSELF.
Here is our sythe conversation (mine and Anti's)https://www.sythe.org/conversations/hello.5821641/
Marcellus said I was Anti's friend because I only had been getting evidence from Anti. I just got messages from the other skillers https://www.sythe.org/conversations/38-53-thieving-order-for-marcellus1404.5827149/ , so by attacking the premise of his argument his argument falls apart. So showing evidence of convo's with other skillers ALSO mean that Anti wasn't my friend (because you were suspicious based on the fact that only was the only one who gave evidence, i messaged all the skillers but some were banned and those two were the only ones who responded.) This is an example of him making strawman and confusing people with the number of fake arguments he has, and after I break down and attack his argument he is still not banned or had action taken? The post with my evidence should explain almost everything.

THE IDEA of sending ALL my messages with Anti I have no problem with, but it was NOT part of evidence in any way and only are because of some retarded accusations he is making based on PREMISES WHICH I HAVE PROVEN WRONG.
THE ACTION OF sending ALL the messages: I now have to spend like 30 minutes screenshotting hundreds of messages for the most common accusation guilty people make, ever and the worst strawman argument Marcellus has made. People make that accusation all the time (OMG, that's your friend! the other person is your friend) and now you're asking me for all the PM's, when you haven't asked Marcellus for his own WTF?
This is something I have an issue with. I can maybe screenshare my conversation, but you're seriously asking for this type of evidence when Marcellus has yet to provide HIS OWN CONVOS with HIS OWN HIREES. I am annoyed at that it is NOT fair and DOES NOT make any sense. I HAD TO DIG UP EVERY LITTLE THING to make a case against marcellus in the same time i could hae easily made money doing other things 100m for all this effort, really? from Marcellus BECAUSE HE DENIES AND MOVES ON AND TRIES MAKING ARGUMENTS FROM SHIT LIKE THIS. HE DID NOT PROVIDE ANY SCREENIES OF HIS CONVOS WITH ANYONE FOR THE ACTUAL ISSUE, AND IM SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE AN ENTIRE, FULL CONVERSATION BASED ON AN ACCUSATION THAT WE ARE FRIENDS? Do you not see the absurdity?

No one has still addressed the most important claims. I am getting frustrated now.

BIGGEST ISSUE THAT DISREGARDS EVEN GIVING CONSENT:
HIS WHOLE ARGUMENT IS PREDICATED ON THIS BUT HE BLINDS OVER THIS PART AND NO ONE IS HOLDING HIM ACCOUNTABLE
1) WHY DID HE NOT INFORM ME TO CHANGE THE PASSWORD AFTER- DOES THAT NOT MAKE HIS SERVICES NULLED
2) WHY DID HE PASS IT ON AS HIS OWN
3) WHY DID HE DENY IT AFTER

Is it true that you were allowed to play on the account while a service wasn't being done? I cant help but ignore the fact you failed to complain about the extra time and delay being taken until service was complete. It seems like you're taking advantage of an issue.
Hmm that doesn't change anything... NOTE THAT MARCELLUS LET ME PLAY ON THE ACCOUNT BECAUSE HE EXPECTED ME TO HELP HIM OUT. HE WANTED ME TO TRAIN PRAYER (I DID) HE WANTED ME TO TRAIN MAGIC (I DID SOME). THAT MEANS I HAD TO HELP HIM BECAUSE HE WAS SO SLOW.. He did not 'let me' do anything. He gave me no terms for his serviceand I agreed to nothing from his end. Look at our deleted sythe conversation also.
The more resewarch I do the more in the wrong he is. Look at this now also Important Rules Regarding Skill Training and Refunds
Yes I am taking advantage, I am pointing out what he did wrong. THE ARGUMENTS THAT HE IS MAKING ARE BASED ON SERVICE COMPLETION. I DID NOT PAY for a slow service that did not get completed. I'm more using it as an example of how he is being difficult and doesn't hold himself accountable to little things like this. I dont expect a compensation from this aspect monetarily, but I'm showing he is an idiot and incompetent and manipulates others as seen in his other scam post as well. This should tilt all 50-50 accusations in my favor.

I was told on 23rd despite you having doubts starting on the 20th as you mentioned (day of hacking). I should have been told immediately that the account had been hacked but I wasn't and as I mentioned before, controlling such events are out of my hands if you don't tell me anything. There is simply no way I could have known this was going on.

i provided screenshots so many times of me telling you on 3/21. 3/20 doesnt count (really, i need to sleep) because i was literally fallling asleep. That means I had suspicions basically on 3/21, and reported on 3/21. You replied on the 23rd, I believe, but I sent a message on the 21st that we can both validate. I also looked for advice from others because I did not get a response. I am trying to be fair here, but part of the blame is on slow response. I clearly typed out that long message on 3/21 with the issues FROM THAT DAY that I found out. The hacking issues were literally the night before, and I said to you 'yo' the minute I got home from school and the long message after I researched and found everything out hours after getting advice.

Can you please show me evidence of the list you made for the questing. I'd like to see which quests were a must do and which ones were optional to check whether it counters Marcellus first point.

I will show you the latest items I sent Marcellus, because I want you to see me trying to be as exact and as clear as possible and how he screwed up and didn't pay attention. Note that this is the final stretch of the service after being delayed so long.
Look how precise and clear I am, noting start QP and end QP needed (106 to 167, 9 qp from subquests)
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In any case, it was agreed on sythe that I COULD make changes, and NOT him. I gave him permission to deviate from THE FILLER quests ONLY (duh).
For now, this much is enough.[/QUOTE]