Private server owners using sythe to ban rwters

1) I'm not accepting a trade and then not giving them their money, I'm banning their accounts as they're breaking our TOS.

2) It's not your server gp to sell - you don't own it.

 

Technically neither do you, its really owned by Jagex and you simply stole the source...

I don't see a reason to have a Black market for RSPS or have A rsps Section if its going to result in bans.

 

Obviously nobody here cares what Jagex owns. You could use that argument for scamming RSGP from sellers too, but that won't get you anywhere.

 

By actively seeking people out and banning them you are, in essence, scamming them. As Sythe said you are making the same mistake Jagex is making. You're banning the same people who support you, and chances are you piss off enough people you're going to drop in activity and therefore money you get. You're not losing anything by people transferring gold for real money, so I am not sure what the use of banning them are.

 

I have always thought that people that do this are dickheads but the problem is with enforcing this. If someone tries to prove that they traded with the owner who then banned them, it would be extremely hard to prove.

 

1) Yes, but SYTHE IS FOR SELLING RSPS'S ISWELL, WHY SHOULD WE HAVE TO FEAR ABOUT THAT BECAUSE SYTHE LETS YOU.

2) In a way, we own our server gp. Server gp has a value and by letting you faggots on sythe were losing out.

 

People (on my server) can obtain donator points 2 ways:

1) Merching, and kudos to them for being successful.
2) Buying them (aka Donating), which should only be through us. We run off donations, and if we allowed for people to RWT and undercut our prices we'd see a dramatic drop in donators.

1) Sythe himself already said it's a public forum. If you post a thread people can always see it, registered member or not.

2) In a way, no you don't. And you're the only one being a "faggot".

 

This thread makes me laugh, as do all threads where people say Jagex can't view Sythe. You can "view Sythe" just by logging in. Hell, if you were IP banned you can still view it through careful Googling; you don't even need to log into the domain at all. For example, I can just Google "Sythe selling gold" and a slew of threads come up that can give me clues on whom to ban.



Now I search RSkingp and see if it matches any RS2007 accounts. Easy.


Look at all this information I can view without even logging into Sythe...


In short, trying to make and enforce a rule that certain people are restricted from viewing Sythe is absurd. And since these "FBI" (Sanctuary's word ) operations do not necessitate posting, there's no way to enforce anything at all.


TL;DR: Issue infractions for spam posts like the, "I cleaned your account LOL." However, you can't do anything about limiting what threads people can view. As Sythe said himself, the entire website is open to the public except for a small few boards.

 

1) Yes its a public forum, but mostly used for selling gold and virtual currency,what people like you are depriving us to do.

2) In a way we do, in a way we dont. How am i being a faggot? Because i dont want people who live off private servers banning me and me losing out gold because there money hungry.

 

I'm going to stop responding to your posts now. Apparently you're not capable of discussing something without trying to attack me.

This is a pointless thread and should be closed. As both Kero, Sythe, and myself have all said, it's a public forum. You can't stop people from viewing the threads.

 

Zarpor is a failed private server and dying. Let him ban his user base as sythe said he's only making a mistake by banning users as your game is nothing without them and on top of that there's plenty of other servers you can play. It's his game and sythe cannot control what he does with it. Simply don't play his little server.

 

So if Jagex made a sythe account and created a thread they were buying all rsgp at a reasonable price and people started adding them to trade but instead jagex just banned all the accounts that tried trading them would the account be banned from Sythe?

 

As far as I know, the person should be liable for for the offense of false advertisement. If you post a thread of something for sale, you are expected to actually possess the item and follow through when someone accepts your asking price.

And just for the record, it's fairly safe to say Jagex has no interest in doing this type of petty shenanigans. If you play for an RSPS that has "sting operations" as such, just stop playing at that server. Whatever RSPS has staff dishonest enough to try this, it's not worth paying for their RSPS to begin with.

 

Again, I'd like to make this clear:

Not once has my server offered to buy someone's points and pretended to be someone else. We simply use what information people have already provided.

 

Which is completely wrong. You're abusing he right you have to view the forum and depriving others of their rights on the forum. Most people aren't going to come in and post their usernames in public, so you're going to have to do some detective work to figure out who is behind it. As soon as you go in and investigate you're crossing a line. If the information is completely out there like 'I am XYZ USER, selling 20b Y SERVER gold' then it is their fault they get wiped. If you have to go in and actively search out the user that is when it turns from using someone's stupidity against to abuse of rights.

What you're saying is that if someone enjoys playing an RSPS and wants to make a little money off it then they should quit because the owners are over stepping boundaries? I am not saying block them from viewing the site, that is stupid, but when they're using their account here to abuse legitimate members of our community then that is a huge problem.

 

So I logged in the other day to see I have 2146m...if I sell it am I getting hammered? I might go sell it just to prove a point.

 

It is his server and these forums are publicly accessible. When you have a small RSPS you make your own rules and sense it is genereally something people do for fun and not profit it is fine to enforce the rules as they see fit. There are tons of RSPS so pick one with rules that fit your play style.

Jagex has banned people after noticing things on Websites like Sythe, not sure Sythe specifically but RSBuddy and what was the nexus bot script site called? They went through paypal records of purchases to ban and give warnings.

 

If someone wants to ban you for breaking their ToS, they can. Fucking deal with it.

 

The right? -Anyone- can view a thread, registered member or not. If one of my staff members isn't registered on Sythe and views a thread, that's abuse?

Love ya JT, but I'd still ban you.

Thank you.

 

This argument is still going on? That's pretty lulzy