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WTF is up with these Jagex manipulations?

Discussion in 'RuneScape 3 General' started by Merchant_in_the_dark, Oct 3, 2008.

  1. Merchant_in_the_dark

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    WTF is up with these Jagex manipulations?

    OK, I've been sitting on this question for awhile.

    From destroying the Wilderness and unbalanced trade to manipulating the Grand Exchange prices, Jagex is obviously hell-bent at doing SOMETHING to Runescape - as they claim, the entire issue is "getting rid of RWT".

    But as we know, Jagex is a for-profit company. They work for money. They knew damn well that the decisions that they made would NEGATIVELY affect their subscriber base and anger many loyal Runescape users. There's no logical reason that any company would make this decision.

    No other company would shoot themselves in the foot to take care of an "ethics issue" that not only brought more people to their game, but kept the people who were already there interested. The idea of playing an game like Runescape for real money is VERY attractive for many people, and Jagex knows it.

    This is contrary to their official explanation of why RWT had to go: They claimed that, if people could just buy gold, they'd "get bored with the game" and stop playing. We know for a fact that tat explanation is not true - it is, quite obviously, bullshit. A cover up by Jagex to hide the real reason.

    But what the F*ck is that real reason?

    Discuss.
     
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    Well, the chink gold farmers were using stolen/phished credit cards to pay for membership, and Jagex had to repay the Credit Card company's and Jagex was even sued by some Credit Card company. They were losing money. So as you said, they are a for-profit organization. They were losing lots of money. RWT'ing had to stop.

    It wasn't us who caused it, it was the chinks.
     
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    Basically what it comes down to, is Jagex is pissed other people are profiting off of their game. They want to put a stop to this because its their game and they want all the money they can get, and im sure they think if people spent less money buying from these gold farming websites, they would spend more cash on members.
     
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    They've already lost enough money from rwt so they're trying for a safe bet by not making much profit but losing none.
     
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    JaGeX hate's chines Goldfarmers.
     
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    WTF is up with these Jagex manipulations?

    Exactly.
     
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    There's no sinister dark reason behind it, they just were losing money over the CC issue.
     
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    Damned chinese farmers... Ruined it for everyone.
     
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    mmmm this might be true but than again people still goldfarm with stolen creditcards and rwting didnt get killed it only got a bit harder
     
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    WTF is up with these Jagex manipulations?

    Honestly, I believe that Mechscape has something to do with this. Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if when this "Mechscape" shows up there are no RWT barriers at all. Think about it.
     
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    WTF is up with these Jagex manipulations?

    I was just about to say that....


    I think they are... I don't know... trying to make it.. a bit 'boring' so that when they release Mechscape like 90% of the people will go there
     
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    ^^ I've been thinking that from the beginning.
     
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    You have a point, maybe they are destroying Rs, so that people go to Mechscape, theres a valid thoery there. And the correct one aswell i think.
     
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    The more I think about it, the more I think that there can't be any other reason for their actions.
     
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    WTF is up with these Jagex manipulations?

    Not really, otherwise they wouldn't keep updating rs, bring pvp etc etc...


    if jagex were a bit smart, they should just sell rsgp themselves, so that everyone would buy of them, and they would get all the money.
     
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    That's pretty racist isn't it? Calling people chinks? *noname if you see this, don't call me a hyprocrite :p*

    As for why they did it.......I would say they did it to stop forums like these. Why would they bother with chinese gold farmers who have a mass of people already, they cannot be stopped unless they are legally handled with. But stopping RWTing, and basically making forums like these into a chaotic place, and stopping their blackmarkets you ultimately stop cheating. Reason is, places like these get more and more members by others telling their friends in RS or something(if they're confident enough) about this site. So the cheating community grows and grows, unlike the chinese/indian/filipino(oh yea! We farm too bitches:D) gold farmers who have a set number of people working, and the competition between them makes it harder. I would say that I can compare the cheating forums to gangs, Sythe and other cheating forums being a younger gang with less restrictions(i.e. no need to go to a higher up guy to sell drugs, and you can recruit anyone), while the gold farmers are like the mob of sorts where they don't grow as much.

    The chinese gold farmers do not make as much compared to sites like Syhte, just because the gold farmers rely on what about 100 or so employees for every single company? While Sythe by itself I would guess have over 4,000 people using it and more each day are getting interested in cheating in Runescape. So this number will add up, but for the gold farmers the only way they'll grow in size is by getting more profit. Which is hard when there's much cheaper alternatives, and when there's so much competition between themselves. Most probably follow the same kind of method too.

    More than likely they'll think all the same and not think outside the box and will have to go to sites like this to find ways to RWT. So again, another reason why JaGex would need to stamp out cheaters. I have no doubt that a few representatives of gold farming sites are looking at this, so are some representatives of JaGex.

    If you looking JaGex employee sir, tell us the truth? Are we close to the answer? Wouldn't it be better if sites like this ruled the cheating world not chinese gold farmers that use fraudulent tactics to use you, while sites like these still play the game for the game itself, not get bored, but still don't use fraud credit cards, or phished cards. Think about it good sir :)

    Now to reiterate what I think the reason is: They took RWT to keep cheating sites from continuing RWTing and things like that. The reason is, cheating sites grow and have fresher ideas on real world trading and is constantly evolving. While the chinese gold farmers are evolving next to sites like Sythe, they're following the innovations made by members of cheating communities. And because the chinese gold farmers would look at siteslike this for inspiration stamping out Sythe and others would make the chinese gold farmers feeble. And then, maybe just maybe...they can go in for the killer shot in the head to the gold farmers by suing them one by one by one....till they are gone.


    I hope it made sense, I hope I didn't sound like a smart ass and fail at it. And I hope you guys get my way of thinking here...It was part conspiracy and partly looking at different things, not just it being aimed at chinese gold farmers and just RWTers from Sythe.
     
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    I agree 100%. JaGex knew that about the whole thing. I'm pretty sure they even knew that almost 70-80% of the RuneScape Population cheated some sort of way.
     
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    I heard the government staged the Runescape conspiracy.




    Credit cards man. Credit cards.
     
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    Lol ppl can still easy rwt in f2p, but sadly in 4m amounts only ;(
     
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    WTF is up with these Jagex manipulations?

    The whole RWT answer is just a variation of the Jagex excuse. For a capitalist company, it still doesn't make sense.

    The smart move for a smart company would be to end RWT by taking it over themselves - AKA, Jagex selling Mils. Therefore, RWT in itself is NOT the main issue here.
     
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