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  1. Unread #1 - May 20, 2009 at 10:04 PM
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    No, I'm not going to complain this time, I love this guy.


    He does EVERYTHING in this forum, cleans the spam reports, does some scam, and is a great moderator.

    Why he isn't a global I don't get, why he isn't a admin I don't get. Since he does more than any other mod on here, this site would do fine with him just moderator.


    I'm sorry if im kissing up, but he really does deserve this.
     
  3. Unread #2 - May 21, 2009 at 12:49 AM
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    Are you sure you're not Benwise's brother unwise09?

    Edit: Benwise does a Finn job. ADMIN09
     
  5. Unread #3 - May 21, 2009 at 12:56 AM
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    Very fucking stupid comment.
    And Ben IS doing a fine job but I think he won't be a global or admin just yet.
     
  7. Unread #4 - May 21, 2009 at 2:34 AM
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    Because he's been a mod for like... 2 or 3 weeks... They won't promote him this quickly.
     
  9. Unread #5 - May 21, 2009 at 7:16 AM
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    Don't feed the troll.
     
  11. Unread #6 - May 21, 2009 at 8:41 AM
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    Yeah he should definitely, at least, be admin by now.

    lol
     
  13. Unread #7 - May 21, 2009 at 9:01 AM
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    Benwise does more work then most globals and should definitely be considered for the next promotion. Without Benwise, I don't know where Sythe.org would be.
     
  15. Unread #8 - May 21, 2009 at 9:37 AM
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    I hope you all know that activity levels of moderators do not make them good or bad. You can be a great moderator and not be active at all. Some mods might not seem to do a lot, but they do. The staff will not promote people based on activity I would hope, because it happens its retarded. People are promoted when and if they deserve it based on how well they do their job.
     
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    Lol inventor ^_^.
     
  19. Unread #10 - May 21, 2009 at 10:33 AM
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    Probably the exact same shit hole that it is now :D
     
  21. Unread #11 - May 21, 2009 at 10:42 AM
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    Admin might be overkill, at this point >.> But, I do think Ben deserves some praise. I was skeptical about him becoming a mod at first, but he's proven to be very active, and a great asset.
     
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    Luis for admin!

    yeah hahaha admin would be over the top but he is great. funny but seriusXDD
     
  25. Unread #13 - May 21, 2009 at 11:28 AM
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    It is true that a mod can be active, yet have negative characteristics that would make them into a "bad" mod, but, activity levels are or at least should be a major factor in deciding a good or bad mod.

    This is retarded. If you are hardly on Sythe.org how can you be a great mod? Inactive means not active. If a mod is not active, they will hardly contribute to this site and just waste a position.
    This could be true if the mod finds ban evaders through other means or some random helpful thing, but be honest, how many inactive mods actually do behind the scenes work? I know admins do, but mods really can't do too much (with the exception of Sin666).

    Why the hell not? I would not like to see someone who hardly does anything get promoted and continue to do nothing when someone more active like Benwise could actually make use of the position.

    I would hope that actually doing things around the site contributes to a job well done.
     
  27. Unread #14 - May 21, 2009 at 11:41 AM
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    Activity should be a major reason for a promotion? So. Anyone without a life should be an admin? Everyone with a life should not be a mod? No. If they were deadly inactive they would be demoted. If they are massively active they should not just be promoted. A complete moron can be very active as a moderator and not deserve a promotion. A very great moderator that is not greatly active however deserves it more as they have more experience.

    You also seem to think that you can not be inactive and be a great mod. Shredderbeam is a GREAT admin, and he is banned thus being inactive. Activity levels mean nothing to how good a moderator is.

    You also must define how you can tell if someone if active or not. Its very hard to be able to figure out in a systematic way who is active and who is not.

    Plus, the only reason that you think that Ben is active is because he no-life's spam reports. If you think that he deserves a promotion for spending a long time doing spam reports, you are mistaken. Ben is a good mod, but basing a promotion on activity alone is retarded.
     
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    I didn't say THE reason, I said a major reason. And to be admin, of course you need to be more than active.

    Like I said before, an active mod is not always good because they may have negative characteristics, but why should an "experienced" mod get the promotion when they hardly do anything? Although Benwise has not been a mod for a long time, since he is so active, he has experienced what "experienced" (long term mods) have done and been through in a short period of time.

    He is no longer an admin...
    If he was an admin, he would still be active. Shredderbeam was a great admin because he was insanely active and did many things around the site.

    I know mod logs give a reference point. Generally speaking, everyone knows who is active and who is not. It's not that hard to distinguish. Also, you can tell by who is signed in, and Benwise is online a lot. I know there is Appear offline mode, but I'm sure it's reserved for the top.

    I think he deserves it because he actually invests his time on this site. You considering it to be no-lifing proves you view it as a waste of time, or just an unimportant activity. While you might think Sythe is a joke, I bet Benwise does not, and therefor he deserves it more than you.
     
  31. Unread #16 - May 21, 2009 at 5:30 PM
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    SuF: Finniscool got admin over a lot of people who should have, timely to their staff history but he was tremendously available, he helped and was most of all active.

    Activity has almost everything to do with promotions. (Activity and mod logs and shit)
     
  33. Unread #17 - May 21, 2009 at 8:39 PM
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    You know mod logs mean nothing. Teng has over 21k mod logs when he was mod for like 2 weeks....

    Of course we want active moderators and thats always a worry when we promote people, but we should not care if someone is uber active. As long as they are active enough to keep their sections clean then activity should not matter much.

    About Finn. You can not tell who is going to make the best admin. You really can not. For that promotion, I will agree that you want a helpful active person. For a global mod position I don't think activity is a main deciding factor.... I really don't. IMO globals are there to do what sectionals can not, do things when sections are not online and keep the unmoderated sections moderated. I feel that becoming a global should be decided on who has the most experience rather than who is most active. But either way, many times its just a popularity contest as people suggest those who they like...
     
  35. Unread #18 - May 21, 2009 at 11:59 PM
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    Mod logs can be skewed by mass archiving or something similar, but for the most part, they are a good indicator.


    I agree with this, however if two mods are equally capable, the more active one should be promoted. Experience is always nice, but if someone doesn't do anything with that experience, then it's a waste.

    You never know for sure, but there will always be indicators in which a possible candidate will be good or bad. I'm sure Finn was not randomly selected just because "You can not tell who is going to make the best admin."

    Globals do need experience, but like I said before, having experience and doing nothing with it is a waste. I'd rather see someone active learn quickly and gain experience by doing everything Sythe.org.
     
  37. Unread #19 - May 22, 2009 at 12:47 AM
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    Ben is a cool guy. But really, I think he should have to wait like all moderators have to. TGump and Billyy have been mods for ages, and they still have not been promoted. Patience is the key.
     
  39. Unread #20 - May 22, 2009 at 12:50 AM
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    SuF:
    How have the last 5 Global promotions been decided?

    Finn - very active
    Cfrey - very active
    Giddy - was active
    Me - was active
    Verts - very active

    The only ones that weren't decided by activity was Daily's and that's because he's been staff so long and done so much. Viper was promoted for being team lead of a huge forum and actually doing a lot.

    As for admin, a lot of other factors play into getting admin as well as activity but I agree with you there, it's not just activity.

    Edit: Sin666 wasn't technically promoted, but obviously she deserved it. She's like pro.
     
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